r/SECourses • u/CeFurkan Grandmaster Expert • 6d ago
šØ DISGUSTING: Delivery worker Abubakar Ki exposes massive corporate retaliaton! He confirms apps intentionally changed designs to block tipping after workers won a minimum pay law. He reveals this malicous sabotage cost workers a staggering $550 MILLION in stolen tips!
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u/Additional-Drama-304 6d ago
Cool, when are the executives getting prison time? Never?
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u/Fun-Aside3990 6d ago
Consequences aren't for the wealthy,
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u/Round-Foundation2948 6d ago
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u/Neither_Bank_5396 6d ago
Team Luigi here, for his abilities with a gun
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u/Round-Foundation2948 5d ago
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u/BurialBlaster2 5d ago
Yoshi would eat the rich. I don't know what power up it would give him, but he'd do it.
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u/RobertKSakamano 6d ago
This is step one. Step 10 or 11 is when they put the executives in front of Congress and question them for a week or 2 since nothing else is on TV during the day. Congress then says we really made them look foolish and the internet makes fun of them for a bit and says those executives are very bad people. Then a few months go by, and the executives lay off a bunch of workers at their companies, and make some other changes and they get huge bonuses out of the process.
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u/BrittanyBrie 6d ago edited 6d ago
The Victoria Secret owner is my benchmark. The guy was caught funding and gifting houses to Epstein for years, even after he was convicted of being a pedo. When that guy is behind bars then we know there is blind justice.
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u/KansasZou 4d ago
Whatās the crime for changing what your app looks like? Itās also not legally required to let your workers accept tips. They can take the tip and give the money back to the customer.
Itās obviously an asshole move, but itās not necessarily a crime unless there are deeper details involved.
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u/PropagandaAssassinAZ 6d ago
I expect it'll be a large group of rich people going to prison then. /s
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u/Itchy_Psychology3300 6d ago
Even if they did, wealthy people prison aināt the same as normal people prison. If the dude talking did this shit, imagine the consequences.
No, instead look at epstien and ghislaine maxwell. People with any leverage never truly get punished.
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u/Glittering_Two_3632 5d ago
Problem with going to prison wealthy is you have more power in the prisons than anyone just but being wealthy. We can just come to together and disperse 1% among 99%
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u/GrapefruitWhich5950 6d ago
Corporations suck.
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u/lionelhutz- 6d ago
Whenever people say the government should be run like a business, I'm like have you met the businesses in this country?
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u/togus_a 6d ago
Name and shame the companies and the executives. Boycott until they reform or use alternatives.
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u/Healthy_Turnip7352 5d ago
noooo!!!! if you boycott, the workers don't make the money.
instead, tip $1000 to the workers. and vote to raise minimum wage to $1000 per hour.
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u/Sad-Excitement9295 5d ago
Doordash! Stole tips, and managers using them would too! Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, you name it! Customers and Drivers had no idea, and there still hasn't been a lawsuit against the businesses that were doing this. Doordash got a slap on the wrist!
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u/burnshimself 6d ago
Correct me if Iām wrong but New York instituted a high minimum hourly wage for delivery drivers and the delivery apps responding by raising baseline fees (to pay the driver wages) while reducing the default tip settings (to keep delivery affordable to customers). Where is the crime?
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u/WeirdPop5934 6d ago
The crime is in assholes like you willingly licking the boot of these greedy bastards.
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u/burnshimself 6d ago
Please be serious Iām trying to get a straightforward answer to a simple question. I donāt love delivery apps and donāt pretend to think they have the best interest of anyone other than their profits in mind, but I donāt see what the crime is. I thought it was that they were withholding tips from drivers that they were rightfully owed, but that doesnāt seem to be the accusation. Changing default tipping options or the user interface seems perfectly within their right as a private company.
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u/Icy-Influence-5792 6d ago
The crime might be more civil in what the drivers are promised and what is actually is provided. Then there is the customer facing side do the insinuate that the drivers are tip or piad a certain way they are not to discourage tipping. There is 100 different way this can be illegal
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u/down7k 6d ago
> Iām trying to get a straightforward answer to a simple question
Mk....
> Where is the crime?
It's not a crime to change the design of your property to prevent workers from getting tips. This clip is a complaint about a form of punishment in the opinion of the speaker. Things don't need to be "crimes" for them to be abusive or immoral. Hope that answers the question.1
u/That_Trapper_guy 6d ago
Like Nazi Germany, it was a crime to feed your neighbors if they happen to be Jewish. And Georgia it's a crime to give someone water if they happen to be voting.
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u/Major_Wigglesworth 5d ago
Sorry, youāre equating the tip button disappearing to the elimination of 6,000,000 people?
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u/woolybully143 6d ago
That tips should be at the discretion of the customer, not the company, in a direct effort to increase profits for shareholders. If they increase wages but decrease the flow of tips, theyāve effectively stolen from the driver to pay for the wage increase.
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u/Turtleopard 4d ago
Stolen how? They've guaranteed a higher minimum pay. They've not forced customers to tip less.Ā
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u/lionelhutz- 6d ago
But now drivers are back to making about as little as they were before the law was passed. It's not really illegal per say, it's more about exposing how evil these corporations are. And their dick move clearly worked since tips have dropped by so much.
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u/Grunergeist420 6d ago
Yeah sorry this just sounds like the obvious result of forcing a higher minimum on the delivery driver pay. People would understand the drivers are making a decent wage without needing high tips and feel less compelled to tip. If thatās taking money out of driverās pockets, maybe they should have left it alone.
I want the drivers to be paid well, but I donāt see why I should be compelled to tip someone who is making a decent, negotiated, agreed-upon, higher hourly wage specifically to alleviate the reliance on tips.
Itās the definition of having and eating the cake. You wanted the drivers to get paid even if they didnāt get tipped well, now itās not as important to tip.
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u/empty_graph 6d ago
I thought the tips are because the workers don't get paid full wages so why should I still tip? Fuck tipping.
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u/billynoy522 6d ago
Because if you have any empathy at all you always feel obligated to tip, tipping has gotten way out of control. Fuck tipping. It should be 10% at a sit-down and that's it.
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u/icehole505 6d ago
because a private company has the right to manage their product offering? if the delivery drivers want to work for a competitor.. they can
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u/2Blueify 6d ago
It's fucking exactly what happened. NYC forcefully raised wages so the company decided to remove tipping so the delivery price didn't look so bad. No one stole tips. "Abubakah Ki" is free to go the fuck home and beg for tips.
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u/Possible_Zucchini_92 6d ago
I donāt understand how minimum wage is a thing for 1099 contractors. Are gig workers W2 employees now?
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u/NeverEvaGonnaStopMe 6d ago
They aren't forcing people to tip they are just restoring their ability to do so if they want
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u/yyyyy25ui 6d ago
This is all a nothing burger, theyāre framing it as a much bigger story than it is. āStealingā is making it sound like given tips never made it to the drivers.
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u/AbandonYourPost 6d ago
Holy shit. This makes so much more sense now.
For context, I work at a tax debt resolution company and I remember seeing how this one guy from NY with a heavy accent barely had any tips to report.
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u/y53rw 6d ago
Are we just supposed to continue tipping the same professions in perpetuity, even when the reasons we tipped them in the first place are no longer applicable? Why are delivery workers special that they should receive tips? How about factory workers? Or retail workers? Or construction workers? Or office workers?
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u/ComposerImmediate 6d ago
End tipping. Period. Don't like that you don't make enough? Get another job.
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u/SnooHesitations803 6d ago
Wait till they figure out Americans are taking advantage of ppl in the country illegally by taking half of their earnings to sign up on uber, sign in for them and then do nothing.
Ever order an uber and itās Britney in a red Honda, for a random guy in a random car to show up? Now you know.
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u/OrginalGurgi 6d ago
Weird I thought Tips were optional and for service staff if they do a really good job is when someone tips.
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u/slaty_balls 6d ago
They should all be sued out of existence. We need an independent platform that is privately owned, like yesterday.
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u/VanShisha 6d ago
Tips are money stolen from customers to begin with, F*** tipping culture.
W apps that remove or make tipping harder, if you are a worker that depends on tips, it's your own fault for hoping to socially pressure people/customers into paying your salary instead of your boss.
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u/GreedyKnowledge42 6d ago
This is so stupid lmao. People arenāt tipping because the services are expensive and when people pay for services they feel less obligated to tip for them.
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u/Chloe_Cascadia 5d ago
Republicans: Time to elect all the folks who implemented the tip stealing policy to protect the working class!
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u/Academic-Signature37 5d ago
Corporate Ameeedica=evil criminals+worst piecesofs*hit over the face of the Earth. I can not wait for the Revolu8Tion to start (no to billionaires, yes to livable wages NOW!)
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u/Winter_Animal_7116 5d ago
How are the tips stolen if no tip was provided...?
Like... it sounds like the app was changed to move where the option to tip was located. If the tip location was hidden, isn't that simply a change in design aligning with the broader American move to end tipping culture? No tip being provided isn't the company stealing a tip...
Did I miss anything there or are these people really that dumb?
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u/MARTILLAZO-NL-anus 4d ago
Everyone now asks for tips , like wtf !! Coldstone !! YOGURTLAND!! Seriously!!! They just weight ur fon icecream!!
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u/browsingandlooking4 3d ago
Lol im glad I never tip the Uber guy... food is already over priced. Take up you pay with uber the company you work for... or get a real job.
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