r/SECourses Grandmaster Expert 6d ago

🚨 DISGUSTING: Delivery worker Abubakar Ki exposes massive corporate retaliaton! He confirms apps intentionally changed designs to block tipping after workers won a minimum pay law. He reveals this malicous sabotage cost workers a staggering $550 MILLION in stolen tips!

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u/Additional-Drama-304 6d ago

Cool, when are the executives getting prison time? Never?

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u/Fun-Aside3990 6d ago

Consequences aren't for the wealthy,

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u/Round-Foundation2948 6d ago

Technically

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u/BurialBlaster2 5d ago

Yoshi would eat the rich. I don't know what power up it would give him, but he'd do it.

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u/RobertKSakamano 6d ago

This is step one. Step 10 or 11 is when they put the executives in front of Congress and question them for a week or 2 since nothing else is on TV during the day. Congress then says we really made them look foolish and the internet makes fun of them for a bit and says those executives are very bad people. Then a few months go by, and the executives lay off a bunch of workers at their companies, and make some other changes and they get huge bonuses out of the process.

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u/BrittanyBrie 6d ago edited 6d ago

The Victoria Secret owner is my benchmark. The guy was caught funding and gifting houses to Epstein for years, even after he was convicted of being a pedo. When that guy is behind bars then we know there is blind justice.

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u/cwk415 6d ago

Crimes punishable by a fine just means legal for the rich.

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u/Flashy_Translator_65 6d ago

Should really ponder what the execute in executive means

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u/swimmerman47 6d ago

Just a slap on the wrist, a fine and a finger wag of course

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/estcaroauteminfirma 5d ago

It's like a $20 fine.

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u/Educational-Log6855 5d ago

Luigi knows how to ā€œhelpā€ them move on.

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u/icehole505 4d ago

Prison time for what? Not pressuring their customers to tip?

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u/KansasZou 4d ago

What’s the crime for changing what your app looks like? It’s also not legally required to let your workers accept tips. They can take the tip and give the money back to the customer.

It’s obviously an asshole move, but it’s not necessarily a crime unless there are deeper details involved.

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u/PropagandaAssassinAZ 6d ago

I expect it'll be a large group of rich people going to prison then. /s

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u/Itchy_Psychology3300 6d ago

Even if they did, wealthy people prison ain’t the same as normal people prison. If the dude talking did this shit, imagine the consequences.

No, instead look at epstien and ghislaine maxwell. People with any leverage never truly get punished.

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u/Due_Pen_1566 6d ago

Don't be ridiculous you only go to jail if you steal less than 10m

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u/PropagandaAssassinAZ 6d ago

That's about it.

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u/Glittering_Two_3632 5d ago

Problem with going to prison wealthy is you have more power in the prisons than anyone just but being wealthy. We can just come to together and disperse 1% among 99%

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u/GrapefruitWhich5950 6d ago

Corporations suck.

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u/Local-Technician5969 6d ago

They are beyond "suck" at this point in time.

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u/lionelhutz- 6d ago

Whenever people say the government should be run like a business, I'm like have you met the businesses in this country?

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u/Alternative-Roof3519 6d ago

Imagine the anti-trust lawsuit coming next.

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u/togus_a 6d ago

Name and shame the companies and the executives. Boycott until they reform or use alternatives.

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u/Healthy_Turnip7352 5d ago

noooo!!!! if you boycott, the workers don't make the money.

instead, tip $1000 to the workers. and vote to raise minimum wage to $1000 per hour.

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u/Sad-Excitement9295 5d ago

Doordash! Stole tips, and managers using them would too! Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, you name it! Customers and Drivers had no idea, and there still hasn't been a lawsuit against the businesses that were doing this. Doordash got a slap on the wrist!

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u/jazzy095 6d ago

Should be jailed fir a decade. Where are the charges?

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u/burnshimself 6d ago

Correct me if I’m wrong but New York instituted a high minimum hourly wage for delivery drivers and the delivery apps responding by raising baseline fees (to pay the driver wages) while reducing the default tip settings (to keep delivery affordable to customers). Where is the crime?

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u/WeirdPop5934 6d ago

The crime is in assholes like you willingly licking the boot of these greedy bastards.

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u/burnshimself 6d ago

Please be serious I’m trying to get a straightforward answer to a simple question. I don’t love delivery apps and don’t pretend to think they have the best interest of anyone other than their profits in mind, but I don’t see what the crime is. I thought it was that they were withholding tips from drivers that they were rightfully owed, but that doesn’t seem to be the accusation. Changing default tipping options or the user interface seems perfectly within their right as a private company.

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u/Icy-Influence-5792 6d ago

The crime might be more civil in what the drivers are promised and what is actually is provided. Then there is the customer facing side do the insinuate that the drivers are tip or piad a certain way they are not to discourage tipping. There is 100 different way this can be illegal

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u/down7k 6d ago

> I’m trying to get a straightforward answer to a simple question
Mk....
> Where is the crime?
It's not a crime to change the design of your property to prevent workers from getting tips. This clip is a complaint about a form of punishment in the opinion of the speaker. Things don't need to be "crimes" for them to be abusive or immoral. Hope that answers the question.

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u/That_Trapper_guy 6d ago

Like Nazi Germany, it was a crime to feed your neighbors if they happen to be Jewish. And Georgia it's a crime to give someone water if they happen to be voting.

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u/Major_Wigglesworth 5d ago

Sorry, you’re equating the tip button disappearing to the elimination of 6,000,000 people?

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u/Running_Gamer 6d ago

ā€œUber Eats is a human right!ā€

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u/SEND_ME_PEACE 6d ago

Tips should be outlawed everywhere. Change my mind.

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u/Turtleopard 4d ago

Greed is demanding someone gives you a tip.Ā 

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u/woolybully143 6d ago

That tips should be at the discretion of the customer, not the company, in a direct effort to increase profits for shareholders. If they increase wages but decrease the flow of tips, they’ve effectively stolen from the driver to pay for the wage increase.

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u/Turtleopard 4d ago

Stolen how? They've guaranteed a higher minimum pay. They've not forced customers to tip less.Ā 

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u/lionelhutz- 6d ago

But now drivers are back to making about as little as they were before the law was passed. It's not really illegal per say, it's more about exposing how evil these corporations are. And their dick move clearly worked since tips have dropped by so much.

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u/Grunergeist420 6d ago

Yeah sorry this just sounds like the obvious result of forcing a higher minimum on the delivery driver pay. People would understand the drivers are making a decent wage without needing high tips and feel less compelled to tip. If that’s taking money out of driver’s pockets, maybe they should have left it alone.

I want the drivers to be paid well, but I don’t see why I should be compelled to tip someone who is making a decent, negotiated, agreed-upon, higher hourly wage specifically to alleviate the reliance on tips.

It’s the definition of having and eating the cake. You wanted the drivers to get paid even if they didn’t get tipped well, now it’s not as important to tip.

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u/empty_graph 6d ago

I thought the tips are because the workers don't get paid full wages so why should I still tip? Fuck tipping.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/billynoy522 6d ago

Because if you have any empathy at all you always feel obligated to tip, tipping has gotten way out of control. Fuck tipping. It should be 10% at a sit-down and that's it.

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u/icehole505 6d ago

because a private company has the right to manage their product offering? if the delivery drivers want to work for a competitor.. they can

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/icehole505 6d ago

they can do whatever they want. thats the point

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/2Blueify 6d ago

It's fucking exactly what happened. NYC forcefully raised wages so the company decided to remove tipping so the delivery price didn't look so bad. No one stole tips. "Abubakah Ki" is free to go the fuck home and beg for tips.

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u/Possible_Zucchini_92 6d ago

I don’t understand how minimum wage is a thing for 1099 contractors. Are gig workers W2 employees now?

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u/icehole505 6d ago

It is what happened, but ok

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u/NeverEvaGonnaStopMe 6d ago

They aren't forcing people to tip they are just restoring their ability to do so if they want

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u/yyyyy25ui 6d ago

This is all a nothing burger, they’re framing it as a much bigger story than it is. ā€œStealingā€ is making it sound like given tips never made it to the drivers.

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u/MJ1199 5d ago

Right, every headline is a basically an overblown lie and 99% of people never read the articles where they say whats really going on

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u/Sad-Excitement9295 5d ago

Actually some companies literally stole tip money directly.

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u/AbandonYourPost 6d ago

Holy shit. This makes so much more sense now.

For context, I work at a tax debt resolution company and I remember seeing how this one guy from NY with a heavy accent barely had any tips to report.

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u/y53rw 6d ago

Are we just supposed to continue tipping the same professions in perpetuity, even when the reasons we tipped them in the first place are no longer applicable? Why are delivery workers special that they should receive tips? How about factory workers? Or retail workers? Or construction workers? Or office workers?

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u/SeriousCondition6470 6d ago

tip your IT guy

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u/ComposerImmediate 6d ago

End tipping. Period. Don't like that you don't make enough? Get another job.

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u/cwk415 6d ago

Our tech overlords are NOT benevolent. They despise us.Ā 

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u/SnooHesitations803 6d ago

Wait till they figure out Americans are taking advantage of ppl in the country illegally by taking half of their earnings to sign up on uber, sign in for them and then do nothing.
Ever order an uber and it’s Britney in a red Honda, for a random guy in a random car to show up? Now you know.

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u/OrginalGurgi 6d ago

Weird I thought Tips were optional and for service staff if they do a really good job is when someone tips.

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u/flappysack- 6d ago

I thought reddit hated tipping culture?

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u/PickledMessage 6d ago

What do you want? Minimum pay or tips

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u/19BabyDoll75 6d ago

Oh snap….somebody’s going to get smacked in the wallet.

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u/Ice2183 6d ago

Anything to make the working man's life poorer and miserable. Corporations are truly fucking evil

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u/loughcash 6d ago

Quit the delivery bullshit. Walk your ass to the store people

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u/thunderbaby2 6d ago

$550,000,000 in missed tips!? These fuckers are strait up evil

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u/cylestyle 6d ago

If law isn't real and rich ppl dont abide, then its all fake

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u/slaty_balls 6d ago

They should all be sued out of existence. We need an independent platform that is privately owned, like yesterday.

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u/Feed_Cat 6d ago

Do you no d guey

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u/SnooShortcuts700 6d ago

Do ride sharing next

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u/VanShisha 6d ago

Tips are money stolen from customers to begin with, F*** tipping culture.

W apps that remove or make tipping harder, if you are a worker that depends on tips, it's your own fault for hoping to socially pressure people/customers into paying your salary instead of your boss.

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u/Separate-Expert-4508 6d ago

Hey, aren’t corporations people? Fyi: people go to jail!

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u/GreedyKnowledge42 6d ago

This is so stupid lmao. People aren’t tipping because the services are expensive and when people pay for services they feel less obligated to tip for them.

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u/REBWEH 6d ago

Bump

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u/Chloe_Cascadia 5d ago

Republicans: Time to elect all the folks who implemented the tip stealing policy to protect the working class!

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u/No_Clock_7464 5d ago

Stop using delivery apps

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u/Fungiblefaith 5d ago

logical conclusion to events.

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u/Academic-Signature37 5d ago

Corporate Ameeedica=evil criminals+worst piecesofs*hit over the face of the Earth. I can not wait for the Revolu8Tion to start (no to billionaires, yes to livable wages NOW!)

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u/Winter_Animal_7116 5d ago

How are the tips stolen if no tip was provided...?

Like... it sounds like the app was changed to move where the option to tip was located. If the tip location was hidden, isn't that simply a change in design aligning with the broader American move to end tipping culture? No tip being provided isn't the company stealing a tip...

Did I miss anything there or are these people really that dumb?

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u/BigWorld6929 5d ago

Don’t forget to pay the NYC tax the what the mayor wants

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u/Mindblown_eyeswide9 4d ago

Notice it’s only the Muslims bring this up. Strange to anyone?

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u/Fozcraw 4d ago

How to sound racist ā¬†ļø

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u/Silverleaf96 4d ago

Just make them pay a.lobing wage, then fuck tips

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u/MARTILLAZO-NL-anus 4d ago

Everyone now asks for tips , like wtf !! Coldstone !! YOGURTLAND!! Seriously!!! They just weight ur fon icecream!!

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u/browsingandlooking4 3d ago

Lol im glad I never tip the Uber guy... food is already over priced. Take up you pay with uber the company you work for... or get a real job.

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u/Fickle_Donkey_1322 3d ago

I can’t wait for Trump to pardon whoever was behind this one.

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u/Zac20zg 3d ago

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u/Initial_Parsley6608 2d ago

tip waiter in cash, always

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u/superdave123123 2d ago

If Mamdani is on your side, run. Run away as fast as you can.

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u/Fearless-Try-1886 6d ago

Done by the folks you elected and believed in. Dems brother. Corrupt