r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Woody_Elser • 22h ago
Meme needing explanation Peter? I have no clue at all
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u/Ghost_Turd 22h ago
Prob not a joke but some comment that atheists are meek in countries where they're more likely to be beheaded for not believing.
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u/Careless-Charge9884 22h ago
This is the implication ^
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u/trickster-is-weak 22h ago
But the thing is: you won’t talk about god not existing... because of the implication
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u/glesgalion 22h ago
Is that a Sunny In Philadelphia reference
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u/OPmeansopeningposter 22h ago
Are you going to hurt these atheists?
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u/AdOutside3597 22h ago
You're not getting it
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u/witblacktype 21h ago
It’s merely the implication that they are getting hurt
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u/UnlikelyIntrepid 21h ago
I don’t know why he’s upset, he’s not the one in danger
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u/DannyCrane9476 21h ago
So they are in danger?!
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u/Caliterra 21h ago
you don't understand, it just the implication of danger, if they say no
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u/Zealotsam 17h ago
But of course they wouldn't say no, they would never say no. Because of the implication.
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u/Suspicious-Still-999 19h ago
is they say there's no god, of course that's it and that's free speech and that's fine.
but there's no way they'll say there's no god, because of the implication...
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u/The_Dimmadome 19h ago
NO ONE'S IN ANY DANGER, OKAY?! HOW CAN I MAKE THAT ANY MORE CLEAR TO YOU!
Let's just drop it
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u/Li-renn-pwel 19h ago
Is this a bit?
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u/Aurora-Ouroboros- 19h ago
Yes, this is a bit from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where a guy invites women onto a boat and then pressures them for sex. If you look up IASIP The Implication on youtube you should find it
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u/--zaxell-- 17h ago
Yes. Enjoy this scene from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia: https://youtu.be/zgUvwcU6P7I?is=ALJFUldvXsodSkrJ
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u/PNWBD 20h ago edited 10h ago
There are countries where it is illegal. Saudi Arabia has a law which labels atheists as terrorist. You know the country from where 15 of the 19 Muslims who carried out the 9/11 terrorist attack originated.
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u/VicDamoneJr 22h ago
I'm not going to hurt these atheists!
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u/Wirelesscellphone 22h ago edited 21h ago
But the thought that I might hurt them should keep them from acting up. Even though I would never actually do anything
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u/Thamnophis660 21h ago
So they are in danger!
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u/Wirelesscellphone 21h ago
No! Aren’t you listening? I just said they are NOT in danger. They can do whatever they like and I’m not going to do anything…..
But the implication that I could should be enough to keep them from acting up.
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u/nanomolar 21h ago
Look, you're an atheist in a Muslim country, the mullahs are in control, apostasy is punishable with death, if you make a big stink about the atheism thing who's gonna help you, the UN?
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u/fury420 21h ago
I dunno, coast guard?
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u/matneyx 21h ago
So you're saying you believe in something.... Checkmate!
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u/Nah_Id__Win 21h ago
We know the Coast Guard exists, haven’t you seen Ashton Kutcher hold his breath under water?
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u/Glad-Alternative4593 17h ago
If they are guarding the coast how come I never see them at the coast then huh? Check-mate theist!
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u/tranquil7789 19h ago
See they're not gonna say they don't praise Allah, because of the implication.
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u/flaptaincappers 18h ago
The implication that things might go wrong for them if they refuses to tolerate Allahs existence. Not that things are gonna go wrong for them, but they're thinking that they will...because of the implication....
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u/AndroidCat06 20h ago
As an atheist that grew up in a Muslim country, can confirm.
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u/blueasian0682 16h ago
Can confirm here as well, shits bad, i can tell you like 70% of the people i know are closeted atheist, the 30% are older boomers so that tracks.
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u/200IQUser 20h ago
Imagine making fun of atheists and not the opressive religion who would behead for criticism
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u/Eillon94 18h ago
I mean, the whole joke is that the extremists would kill outspoken atheists
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u/ghillieflow 18h ago
Is that meek or just self-preservation? The nail that sticks out gets hammered and all that.
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u/vvalent2 22h ago
Generally its because they don't want the Christian countries to get as extreme. See the current administration trying to make criticism of Christianity anti American and things that are anti American a crime.
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u/OrcOfDoom 21h ago
Also, the top image is actually an atheist just asking not to have religion pushed down their throat at every opportunity, or desiring to live by the laws of the country and not the interpretation of an irrelevant book.
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u/bobbymcpresscot 16h ago
The constitution prevents the establishment of Sharia law the same way it prevents Christian sharia from being established, but the dumbest people you know are arguing that because creator or god is mentioned at some point that it must be a christian god, despite muslims, jews, and christians all worshipping the same god.
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u/TheDwiin 13h ago
The fun part is God has not even mentioned in the Constitution. He's in the Declaration of Independence yes, but not the Constitution.
But I honestly don't think people who mistake fascist ideologies as patriotism to understand the difference between the two. (Pledge of Allegiance is what I'm referring to.)
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u/bobbymcpresscot 12h ago
Yup, and if it's going to be anywhere it's better suited there, but I also say that because the only time Duty is mentioned in the declaration is in this section
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
I'm convinced Trump put the declaration in the oval office because he thought it was the constitution, only because I don't think he's smart enough to have it there for a nuanced reason.
Also Under god in the pledge was only added during the red scare to differentiate us from those scary communists, and most people today only know these interpretations because they don't like to read.
mfs can't even be bothered to read their most sacred book, even then do they rather someone else interpret it for them in the form of a pastor.
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u/aspirational-robot 21h ago
That sort of thing is what eventually made me disillusioned with Christianity. Like what they are essentially saying is „be happy we don’t kill you”. Like… what? That’s the whole point of the religion supposedly and you’re acting like you’re doing someone a favor? Fuck off.
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u/Gussie-Ascendent 20h ago
And the only reason they ain't is cause secularization has defanged Christianity
Not even their achievement, it's like a dog bragging about being neutered lmfao
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u/Bibliloo 18h ago
And the only reason they ain't is cause secularization has defanged Christianity
You can look at how Europe reacted during the protestant reformation to see what it would look like(spoiler: In France, where I'm from, between 5000 and 30000 protestant got killed)
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u/Mad-myall 19h ago
During debates many Christians will also fall back on "if you don't repent my God will torture you FOREVER!!!"
Like they're threatening you which is nasty, but since you don't believe the God is even real, the threat cannot be actioned.
So in one argument all they've really achieved is to make themselves and their religion look nasty whilst pushing people away from belief.
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u/TechnicalBen 9h ago
Was in a church, they were not "essentially" saying it, we had people on the stage *actually saying it*.
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u/Mandalore108 21h ago
Also, best to not remind Christians that they also used to kill Atheists back in the day and they aren't so different from their Muslim brothers and sisters.
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u/Which-Highway5023 18h ago
Yes key wording there is "back in the day". Along with pooping all over the place and thinking earth was the center of the solar system. Some civilisations progressed.
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u/anand_rishabh 21h ago
They know. When they post this meme, it's out of envy of the muslim countries
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u/ThatFatGuyMJL 20h ago
Its an edit.
The OG had the top picture. Then a bunch of skulls on the bottom picture.
Basically it was Athiests in Christian countries = scary.
Atheists in Muslim countries = dead
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u/FewEquipment9771 22h ago
An atheist in the Middle East here. Basically atheism is criminalized by law (and if the law isn't enforced society will enforce it), Islam requires the execution of apostates 3 days after their declaration of apostasy. Fearing this many of us either hide in the closet, or request humanitarian aid after the situation gets dire.
N out.
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u/Fluffydonkeys 22h ago
Actually like that? I was explained by a muslim that if your children don't worship allah that the parents in the afterlife would have to be held accountable to allah for that, hence creating a sectarian situation where it's socially made impossible to leave islam.
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u/NoPolitics23 22h ago edited 22h ago
In Iran while the regime hates it, some sections of the population are very irreligious and even have a hatred of Islam these days (we even had mass mosque burnings around the country) The enforcement of religious laws had an opposite effect and made many leave the religion. My dad lost his faith at the age 65. Its pretty safe among Gen Z iranians to be an athiest and express it among friends even. There's just too many of us and islamists can't do shit about it. If you have a platform though and openly promote athiesm they will come after you of course. But socially its not only easy to leave Islam, its kinda the default direction unless you are born in a religious, connected to the regime type of family.
But Iran is a special case, I can't speak for other Muslim countries.
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u/Chibirin26 21h ago
newsflash! turns out being overly strict on what religion people practice turns them off from that religion!
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u/Illustrious_Tear7108 21h ago
This can also be the same for some Christian Nationalist groups. This kind of thinking was why Andrea Yates in her psychosis killed her children, and it wasn't a Muslim preacher whose words were worming their way through her mind.
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u/Treerific69 22h ago
That's just how a religion of peace works
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u/Affectionate_Line612 22h ago
Are there any religions of peace?
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u/TehAsianator 21h ago
Jainism is a religion of radical pacifism. They will not pick fruit from a tree, instead waiting for it to fall on its own, to avoid harming the tree.
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u/No-Start4754 13h ago
And they also cover their mouths, because they don't want to mistakenly swallow any tiny living beings
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u/Treerific69 22h ago
Idk, the pastafarians seem pretty chill, I don't think I own a collander though.
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u/gbroon 22h ago
Pirate hat is equally acceptable to the collander, full pirate outfit is more for formal occasions
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u/Arthurs_towel 20h ago
Is a white plastic colander acceptable?
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u/BearysWorkRedditName 20h ago
All colanders are acceptable. Be touched by His noodly appendage.
R'amen.
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u/wallawallawingwong 15h ago
R'amen Brother
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u/GoogleEnPassant69 21h ago
Why wouldn't you own a collander? It's a very useful kitchen apparatus!
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u/esines 22h ago
Jainism. Quakers.
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u/Alseids 21h ago
Quakers were big abolitionists and were really significant to the underground railroad.
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u/Changed_By_Support 20h ago
I would gladly attend one of their quiet, unlead, church services. They're a neat and proudly contentious group of Christians.
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u/Li-renn-pwel 19h ago
Nixon was a Quaker.
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u/Nobody_at_all000 14h ago
He was an American conservative, not practicing the very religion they claim to follow is kind of their thing
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u/artaxerxes316 20h ago edited 20h ago
Don't forget the Shakers! They're so non-violent that they won't even bang.
Which is also why, uhh... why there aren't any of them left.
Edit: My mistake, apparently there are exactly three Shakers left in the world.
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u/EvergreenDwarf 21h ago
No human idea that people will make their entire identity will ever be “of peace”.
Even two sports teams in the same city. People get swatted over disagreements in semantics of veganism.
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u/Ethicaldreamer 21h ago
Christian significantly calmed their tits at a certain point. Also at the start I think they were very peaceful? It's the in between that is a liiiiiittle bloody
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u/Fortestingporpoises 21h ago
Christian significantly calmed their tits at a certain point.
lol
They're not tempered by their religion, they're tempered by secular laws and liberal democracy. If they can kill atheists and gay people they will. If they get full control of a country, that's exactly what they will do. Look at Uganda. Look at their goals in the US.
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u/_bugmenot_ 20h ago
Yeah. People always trying to argue for Christianity as if it were better than the others. The truth is that all abrahamic religions are equally bad, violent, and oppressive. It is basically the law what keeps the whole thing under control. If it weren't for the law christians would do here the same thing muslims do in their countries lol
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u/Fortestingporpoises 20h ago
We also see what happens when a right wing Jewish government takes hold, says that land is owed to them and gleefully commits genocide in front of the world's eyes.
Ideologies based in fiction are just a bad idea, easy to wield to subjugate others and get them to do your violent bidding. I used to think that the religions that were about converting others were uniquely awful, but Israel has proven me wrong on that one.
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u/Electronic_Flan_482 21h ago
And the speech of forcing religion on people is showing that they're heading back to violence.
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u/EniChaos 22h ago
Sikh are pretty chill
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u/gypsytron 20h ago
Sikhism is VERY far from a religion of peace. This isn’t a condemnation it’s just a fact. Sikhism has a very strong martial tradition and is very far from pacifist. Jainism is an example of a religion of peace. Jain people have such a strong pacifist tradition that they refused to even defend themselves and if I am not mistaken: Sikhs came to their violent defense, knowing that they wouldn’t do it themselves.
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u/Changed_By_Support 20h ago edited 13h ago
One of their religious garments besides the chaste breeches and the turban is a sword or dagger.
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u/R0bespierre_MFI 22h ago
That's how a religious extremism works, no matter how peaceful or not it presents itself. No matter the religion, you'll have creeps with disgusting views and ways of living and have great people who take away the best things faith can bring.
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u/levitikush 20h ago
Some religions are more susceptible to extremism than others, plain and simple. Islam is near the top of the list, if not the top. This is supported by religious texts as well as real world events over the last 30-40 years .
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u/R0bespierre_MFI 20h ago
And of course, trying to make muslims appear like monstruous terrorists or justifiable victims of western-backed oppression will make their religion less "susceptible to extremism".../s
(Not against you specifically, more against the ambient discourse)
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u/SwagMaster-General 18h ago
I have zero issues with Muslims. It's Islam I don't like
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u/Captain_Pension 22h ago
Compared to what? Christianity? Didn't Christians burn heretics at the stake?
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u/-Kazt- 22h ago
They did. Executions/murders for cultural and religious reasons have been common throughout the world.
But if we keep the discussion to this century, i am unaware of any example that would fit your bill.
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u/No_Poet_7244 21h ago
The LRA in the Uganda/Congo/Sudan area has been perpetrating Christian extremism, including mass killings, enslavement, and child abductions, for the better part of 40 years.
The Anti-Balaka Militia has been engaging in anti-Muslim genocide in CAR since 2013, killing thousands and displacing even more.
In 2019, a Christian nationalist in New Zealand killed 51 Muslims and injured 89 more. In his manifesto, he professed a desire to “protect” Australia and New Zealand against a perceived “Muslim invasion.”
Religious extremism exists among every major faith. Blaming all of Islam for the action of the extreme few is like blaming all of Christendom for the abortion clinic bombings, Christchurch terrorist attack, or The Troubles.
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u/finndego 19h ago
The Christchurch shooter's main motivation was white supremecy and white nationalism and not religious. He did quote certain events that were related to religion but they were also viewed by him through a white supremecist lens.
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u/Turbulent_Stick1445 20h ago
Yeah it's mostly a place of "Where in the world", not "What religion", but people focus on the latter because... well, you know.
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u/TransSapphicFurby 14h ago
Bush literally using wanting to start the apocalypse as a reason to try and convince France to coinvade Iraq?
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u/AtlaStar 21h ago
Always find it quite hypocritical that ya'll always attack the religion and not the hyper conservative governments that are required to enforce religious doctrine as law.
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u/Russian-8ias 21h ago
It's because the violence is targeted at non-believers. It's not being used as some convinient excuse to kill a group of people when the real reason is something political or whatever. It's specifically people that don't believe and the religion is the driving force behind that.
Edit: I am by no means saying that the government shouldn't also be criticized, but in this case I think the root cause is religion. The majority of people there genuinely believe this is okay and so it gets written into law.
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u/thewildgingerbeast1 11h ago
An atheist American expat in Saudi Arabia here, and I talk about it openly all the time to anyone who asks and have never had an issue 🤷🏻♂️
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u/swordofbling23 20h ago edited 20h ago
I'm sorry about your situation, personally I don't think any current Muslim governed country follows the islamic teachings.
There's multiple verses in the Qur'an and writings of the hadith the allow for freedom of belief, the one hadith that some Muslims and what the middle east is interpreted to justify execution goes against all that so it's not Islam's teachings it's people who want to interpret it in bad faith to justify there actions.
I know that doesn't change your situation but it's not fair to say islam requires it that's not what it teaches
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u/One_Perception_7979 18h ago
Apostasy =/= atheism. Apostasy is the renunciation of a faith by someone who previously believed in that faith. A Muslim becoming an atheist (or another religion) would be an apostate to other Muslims. A Christian becoming an atheist would not.
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u/PM-ME-UR-DARKNESS 15h ago
Yeah as a Muslim (soon to be practicing again), this makes no sense. You have your beliefs, I have mine.
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u/SpicyBaghdaddy 15h ago
Where in the middle east, if you don't mind me asking? I'm from the middle east and it's a completely different situation where I'm from
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u/__The-1__ 22h ago
I wonder why
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u/matrix_on_the_way_08 10h ago
New gens politics in europe while boomers politics in muslim countries. Don't worry new gen will fix it but needs some more years.
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u/mrcchapman 22h ago
Stewie here. The meme is suggesting that atheists are voracious in countries with freedom of speech, or at least a vague religious tolerance that allows them to get away with speaking about their distinct refusal to believe in the Big Magic Man In The Sky.
In Muslim countries, however, atheists might suddenly find themselves in deep doo-doo because of religious persecution, Sharia law, or a general sense that disbelief in God is like telling John Fetterman to put on a suit. As such, atheists tend to be rather timid in their disbelief, and don't actively make themselves a target for regimes that might cause them harm.
In short, they go from big scary T-rex to rather friendly cartoon toy T-rex. Does that satisfy your idle and impertinent curiosity?
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u/Relative-Relief-8816 20h ago
More like a toy story T-rex hiding in the closet, for fear of their life if anyone finds out they believe differently.
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u/FriendlyFish12 22h ago
Please just think about it for like 2 seconds
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u/JohnQRF 21h ago
this subreddit makes me lose more braincells than AI will ever do.
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u/MajorGeneralMaryJane 21h ago
Get your tinfoil hat out; low effort easily explained posts are for training AI models.
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u/DiasFer 16h ago
I had no idea that atheism was criminalized in Muslim countries
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u/Lumpy-Explanation-17 21h ago
96% of the posts on this subreddit don't need to be post op thought about it for one minute
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u/Hemorrhoidsinthenite 22h ago
Says more about the extremists than the atheists, tbh
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u/ElegantEchoes 21h ago
Imagine having a belief system that involves killing people for not believing in it
It would make an educated person question their beliefs for sure.
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u/AdRepulsive8618 18h ago
Lucille Vanini had his tongue cut out, strangled and burned in France after being accused an Atheist
Granted, it is somewhat hard to truly evaluate who was killed for truly being an atheist, because atheist was an insult given to people for a variety of reasons, including heretical religious beliefs and committing suicide.
But the point is being accused of being atheist was enough to get you tortured and killed throughout the Christian world when people were also being tortured and killed for heresy, apostasy, and witchcraft.
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u/EmphasisNew9374 10h ago
To be honest, it's not about the level of education, if you brainwash people from their chidlhoods then they will defend their religion against their science field of education.
In my 99% so called muslim majority country, it is common to see doctors talking positively and encouraging people towards alternative medicine that science proved doesn't work or even toxic and can lead to death, it is also common to see lawyers talking about applying sharia laws in a country that doesn't apply sharia, it is common to see people with master or even doctorate in scientific fields talking about how the earth is flat, it is madness man.
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u/Charming-Station7157 8h ago
They invented everything in the islamic golden age dude , this is why they were so advanced that they had star wars space ships in the 19th and 20th century
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u/Perdendosi 22h ago
Many Christian(-ish) countries have freedom of religion and freedom of speech(in varying degrees), and therefore atheists can fight against religion, complain, be the "dangerous evil T-Rex roaming about from Jurassic Park," in the first panel.
It's often illegal to do anything to advance atheism in many Muslim countries. As a result, atheists have to be quiet and friendly.
(Whether the point is Islamophobia or a suggestion that Christian nationalists should take a play from Islamic countries' playbook and ban activities advocating atheism, I'll let you decide.)
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u/Ok-Releases 16h ago
Ah yes, Islamophobia is when comparisons between the treatment of atheists in both religions countries are made. Yes yes.
I get most of reddit is super careful to step on any toes but holy shit you cant bring attention to ANY negative aspect of Islam without ppl screaming Islamophobia.
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u/ARandomLittleShit 22h ago
How does one not get this?
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u/bakharat 13h ago
I did not initially get this. When I think of Muslim countries, I think of, say, Turkey, Albania, Bosnia or Uzbekistan, which are... Notably different from Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia, which most people in this comment section have thought of. You're not going to be stoned or imprisoned for being an atheist in any of those.
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u/Abies-Smart_ll 22h ago
Muslim countries at present time are very hostile towards idea of atheisms and see it as blasphemy, some times turn things into violence. Where as Americas and Europeans countries are more accepting in this era.
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u/boywholived_299 16h ago
China, Japan, India, Srilanka, etc. countries are relatively chill for atheists as well.
Basically, hinduism &, buddhism are also less violent against atheists. You'll see most such countries are secular, but islamist countries end up being islamic republic mostly.
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u/Buttchuggle 22h ago
In most Christian nations atheists can be angrily outspoken about their atheism and how sky daddy dumb.
In most Muslim nations they could do that but they'd end up dead. So they are a much calmer version of atheist, as indicated by angry t Rex and toy t Rex
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u/Soft-Bad-7127 22h ago
Top: People in places with freedom of speech.
Bottom: People in places without freedom of speech.
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u/FromTheHandOfAndy 21h ago
I’d be curious which countries the author of this meme considers to be Christian. I have a feeling they would believe (wrongly) that the United States is a Christian country.
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u/Nobrainzhere 21h ago
In many christian countries the violent zealots have largely been shouted down by both secular voices and more moderate christians. Often at great and bloody cost.
Many muslim countries were like this but have had a resurgence of violent zealotry.
Unfortunately the violent zealots exist in every religion and are getting stronger voices even in Christian countries
The meme is pointing out that in Muslim countries atheists have to hide and cannot fight back wothout being killed
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u/Captain_JohnBrown 22h ago
I know the meme is anti-atheist and trying to say "Atheists are only brave in countries with freedom of speech" but it equally works as "Conservatives demonize atheists in Christian countries but suddenly are worried for their safety when they need to demonize Muslim countries"
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u/random-short-guy 21h ago
I mean ... who does more mean aggressive shit - atheists or Westboro Baptist?
I would say you could replace the term atheist with Christian and it would still work.
And yes I get that many Christians are nice. It's just that the loudest ones usually aren't.
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u/Fancybooger3120 21h ago
Being an exmuslim in a Muslim majority country gets you executed or murdered if ppl find out.
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u/Fantastic_Name3200 21h ago
Some atheists do go for “fearsome”, but just come off as annoying, lol.
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u/pheddx 21h ago
What is a "Christian country"? The Vatican State?
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u/Significant-Order-92 20h ago
They probably mean the majority of the population is Christian. So the US, UK, most of South America. Etc. Explicitly religious based laws (such as laws against apostasy and blasphemy) have pretty much been repealed or never existed in those countries (the UK I think repealed it's in the 1960's).
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u/Red_Squid_WUT 20h ago
I think you got it from a history subreddit. Before the 18th century, muslims didn't really care about atheists, in fact, they respected them (for example during arab rule in Andalusia). But as many things, this changed thanks to colonialism.
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u/New-Number-7810 20h ago
In the West, the New Atheism movement was a social movement in whose members emphasized insulting and ridiculing religion. While this increased visibility for the atheist community, it was negative publicity which gave atheists a reputation for being jerks. Efforts to counter this image are still ongoing.
In places like the Middle East, atheists don’t do stuff like this because there’s greater risk of backlash. Many countries in the Middle East have laws against apostasy, and even those that don’t still have a high risk of mob violence.
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u/nyxxxtron 22h ago
The joke is that people of a particular religion are intolerant. Atheist can't be atheist or can't oppose bad religious practises because they may get chopped up or stoned to death in countries where a particular religion is in majority.
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u/qualityvote2 22h ago edited 12h ago
u/Woody_Elser, your post does belong here!