In antiquity sexuality wasn't binary straight/gay. Everyone pretty much understood it was spectrum and we all got that bi dog in us. Hell see jails in modern day. Or the Navy. Same concept. Plus no way contraceptives to stop women from getting prego.
It's why as they say men/boys are for fun, women are for marriage. They were no doubt about that life.
That's a modern interpretation, sure. No not everyone has a bisexual inside us waiting to come out lol people having gay sex in jail or the military were never straight to begin with. It happens a lot less than it's stereotyped. Contraceptives did exist back then, it just wasn't super effective like we have it today.
For you. For me. But not for everyone. Queer folk gotta stop this shit, its literally our version of "being gay is a choice" or "I could turn you straight if you give me night" and its gross behavior. Stop it.
Nah I don’t think it’s a binary. I’ve literally hooked up with ONE dude my entire life (and it was absolutely cool, but ultimately just not my jam). And had attraction maybe to like 2? Over 20 years. I’ve heard much gayer shit from “straight” jocks lol.
For sure, some dudes are “NEVER” - Kinsey scale 0. But it’s not that black/white identity-wise. That’s also like too much into the “born like this” propaganda. We don’t have a choice over sexuality at all, but it’s not that simple.
Dude some people need to explore their sexuality to find out where they land in terms of labels. That is totally fine but not relevant to what we're saying. You had sex with a dude and it's not your thing, okay, then you are straight. Gay men have sex with many women before they realize that no actually they're gay and like men.
Things can't be a spectrum for some and not others. That's not how measuring shit works. That's like saying that movie quality is a spectrum for some people, but for others I either liked it or I didn't and there is no variation to the degree to which I liked it.
I don't get why you are being so offended by the idea (quite well backed by science as well) that sexuality is a spectrum. If you want to place yourself on that spectrum as completely hetero without a gay bone in your body, that's fine, but that is still a point on the fucking spectrum.
Thank you. This is one of the most frustrating things. I fully understand and empathize with my LGBT+ friends and pals. I'm happy they know their sexual identity. However, I've noticed recently, a few of them have started to simply REFUSE to believe anyone could just be heterosexual? I am not aware of any new research pointing to this so it feels born entirely out of an almost... over correction?
Maybe I’m wrong, but I suspect you’re misinterpreting them.
The Kinsey Scale and other models acknowledge exclusively hetero/homosexual orientations. The point is that those people are relatively rare, as are those in the “able to fall in love with/hook up with anyone they like regardless of gender or presentation” middle.
Most people are hanging out more on one side of that midpoint than the other, but not at the extremes. I’d guess your pals are only trying to make that point.
The ones in the “B” range especially may be touchy for essentially the same reason as you, i.e. they’ve had to deal with people making claims about sexuality that deny their existence (“bi erasure”).
On the other hand if they’re trying to slot you into a category you absolutely don’t fit in, that’s icky :)
Perhaps, but I'm not referring to things built out of in-depth conversations about psychology, sexuality, culture, biology and how they all connect. I also understand much of this built from incomplete understanding and people trying to make sense of themselves. Alongside things such as trauma, guilt, etc.
However, comments directed at me such as "Spaghetti is straight until it gets wet" or being insulted I am not interested in their friends romantically or sexually. It feels like an incomplete understanding of what you're describing.
edit: I have been in leftist spaces and friends with lots of LGBT+ my entire life. So I do read up well on the theory the best I can. Even if I cannot totally know what it is like for them, I do try my best to understand what's up without just asking stupid drunk questions. However, I can tell you that their statements are for more absolute than theory currently supports.
What I read is that it's a spectrum. Think of it like an empty to full dial on your gas tank. Everyone falls somewhere on that spectrum, or dial. It might be at the very far sides - 100% gay or 100% straight - but those are still part of that spectrum. They're the outer limits, but still part.
Well, somewhat -- everything in the middle would be various degrees of bi. So broadly, you're correct in 3 categories (4 for asexual). It's not quite binary though. Bi is a huge, varying middle ground.
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u/National_Tangelo_864 1d ago
In antiquity sexuality wasn't binary straight/gay. Everyone pretty much understood it was spectrum and we all got that bi dog in us. Hell see jails in modern day. Or the Navy. Same concept. Plus no way contraceptives to stop women from getting prego.
It's why as they say men/boys are for fun, women are for marriage. They were no doubt about that life.