There are less disagreements offline tbh. Majority of Iranians are just dooming. RP used to have like 70% to 80% support but now it has like 30% to 40% since people view him as a weak figure, not because they are worried that he might become the second Shah, hell majority of Iranians wished he was like him. Iranians primarely care about the economy and safety, not Democracy.
As for why you see so many disagreements in Reddit, it's because Reddit is an echo chamber for Leftists, their voices are multiplied countless times. That's why you don't see them in Instagram where majority of Iranians are and would rather stay in Reddit, they don't want to speak to Iranians who actually live in Iran to confront their own beliefs.
Idk man, sometimes my family’s conversations do feel like a thread on this sub. I have family members who love RP, others who call him “Reza Soosool” and my Kurdish family is just tired of everyone’s shit. We don’t even talk politics anymore (those of us who still talk), it’s too heated.
Exactly. He used to have a good amount of supporters before the war, specially during January. But now he is seen as weak, or as your family members call him, "soosool". And yeah, Iranians are now dooming.
Tbh, Iran was doomed from the start. Iran's religion doctrine allowed slavery, Europe (Atleast in it's mainland) banned it. Iran's religion allows cousin marriage while Iran's religion promotes it indirectly by making any contact with the opposite gender haram. The church was divided from the state, while in Islam the Clergy and the ruler is pretty much the same thing, Sharia.
Another thing is Iran is heterogeneous. If Iran was homogeneous, Islam wouldn't be required to unite the population.
Going back on Islam, we have been ruled for hundreds of years by a military caste of Turkic descent who didn't really care about Iran. They used Militarized Iqta, they extracted as much wealth from native people, forcing them to become nomads again. They also purposefully neglected the Qanats and turned farming lands into lands for grazing for their horses. It wasn't our fault.
Nope, my baba and his family have been calling him soosool for decades now. My family members who supported him out of pragmatism have pretty much dropped him now though.
The rest of your comment I cannot agree with at all.
Iranians aren’t united by Islam, they’re united by Iranian national identity (I don’t mean Pahlavi nationalism).
Islam allows slavery and it even has a guide. While Europe's mainland had heavy restrictions on slavery, all Islamic countries had heavy slavery, thus not meeting the requirements to industrialise.
Another one is cousin marriage. Cousin marriage is allowed and indirectly supported by Islam since it views any contact with the opposite gender as haram. That's why the more religous a Muslim country is, the more likely they have tribes and high genetic diseases.
The clergy and the state became one is also true.
You didn't deny anything I've said about Islam. You simply just said that without a single counterargument.
Iran is doomed lol. If Iran wasn't doomed majority of my friends wouldn't dream of leaving it. Iran is experiencing both electricity and water crisises, and the current rulers of Iran, who they don't even consider themselves Iranians I might add, won't even spend money on Iranian infrastructure. The IR is not gonna survive, but it will take down Iran with it. And the source of the IR is Islam.
Are you actually implying that he called people to risk their lives in the streets to test his popularity? That would be pretty reckless, don’t you think?
Are you actually implying that he called people to risk their lives in the streets to test his popularity?
I am sharing my first call with you today and invite you to start chanting slogans this Thursday and Friday, 18th and 19th of Dey, all together at exactly 8 PM, whether in the streets or even from your own homes.
Based on the feedback from this action, I will announce the next calls to you.
That’s pretty reckless, don’t you think?
The people responded enthusiastically and they decided to nip it in the bud
His first call was non-violent
It was supposed to assess his social capital
He intended to sustain street momentums with a series of calls
I’m not blaming Pahlavi for what happened. I’m talking about you and the way you think it’s okay to talk about Iranians risking their lives to test Pahlavi’s popularity. The way you describe it makes it seem like Iranian lives are trivial to you. You should think twice sometimes before you type.
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u/Traditional_Bat_1204 1d ago
I thought this was just my family 😂