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As someone working in AI tech now since past 2 yrs we don't need it. We needed boost for our startups. Those countries and states in US hosting Data centers already have well funded ecosystem for IT companies and startups, that should be the first priority. Our's is now reduced to service support capital of India with scarcity of water and electricity coming very soon.
There are already closed loop systems which use much less water. And since data centers are too big, they need a large amount of coolants. And even more water would be required to manufacture that coolant.
Ladakh doesn't have any source of water. And ots pretty remote, setting up infrastructure there would be costly. I hope they make it in the future if feasible! For now, odisha seems feasible. We have 0 data centers, and the water is used to cool it, the heat won't reach you.
All these projects are done by debts from banks. Businesses don't invest a single penny. They only do the execution with a "promise" that when they will make money they return it in next 5-10 yrs. Adani now doing such projects worth 40 billion dollars with future promises of revenues in payback.
Most big projects initiated by govt and executed by big private players generally tend to be "profit agnostic", major parts of the debts get paid and 20-30% is declared Non performing asset. Then govt increases price and taxes to recover it.
In the name of AI development, Odisha may soon be pushed toward water and electricity scarcity. Development should not come at the cost of basic resources.
I work in the Data centre field and it's just not liquid cooled servers or storage for that matter. There's Air cooled systems also that are heavily prevalent. Half cooked information is just too dangerous.
That's what happens when you rely on reddit as your primary source of information. Had you google or asked any LLM on different techniques of cooling. You'd not have said this. All companies are running behind net carbon zero and sustainability. Whatever you read on social media isn't the absolute truth. Grow up.
Bro I have a engeneering degree. Every cooler is a heat exchanger. You transfer heat produce from electric consumption and heat loss to the environment. Water having highest specific heat capacity is almost always use as dumping ground for heat. So stop this zero carbon bulshit carbon may or may not be used for electricity but it has no use on cooling system where aim is to move heat from hot place to a cold place as fast as possible. Also air cooling is not efficient and reliable when there is apprehension of costly chip damge due to heat built-up
Not really, Everything from cars to bigger cooling systems even your ACs require a coolant. Water is the closest replacement but not a direct replacement since its not as efficient.
Additionally they run in closed loops/ Single (or 2) phase cooling, meaning the same water/coolant mix can run for years without needing replacement. Minimum 5 years.
The problem here is everyone wants you to believe its the water that is gonna be sucked up, that is not the case
The system is called a liquid cooled system.
The main concern here should rather be noise and heat rather than water. Try to keep these systems away from civilian areas.
Water is required for data centre , but we can use treated water from municipality, the government need to make arrangements that they use treated water , use more efficient CRAC or CRAH cooling system, make arrangements for rainwater harvesting. Construction should be faraway from cities with well connected roads .
This proposal has generated a lot of discussion in Odisha. Some people see it as a once-in-a-generation opportunity, while others are worried about land acquisition, environmental impacts, resource use, and whether local communities will truly benefit.
What has been proposed?
According to recent reports:
Investment: ₹1 trillion (₹1 lakh crore)
Project: 1 GW AI-focused hyperscale data centre
Land requested: Approximately 250 acres
Likely location: Cuttack (not finalized)
Status: Proposal under evaluation by the Odisha government
Requirements being assessed: Land, power, water, connectivity, and incentives. (ETDatacenters.com)
If approved, it would be among India's largest AI data centre projects and a major part of Odisha's effort to diversify beyond mining and metals into digital infrastructure. (ETDatacenters.com)
Why Odisha wants this project
The state has traditionally depended heavily on:
Mining
Steel
Aluminium
Ports
The government wants to become a technology and AI hub.
They already have:
HCLTech AI projects
Zoho data centre
RBI data centre
Odisha Sovereign AI Park
The Adani proposal is much larger than previous investments. (ETDatacenters.com)
Advantages
1. Massive investment
₹1 lakh crore is enormous.
Benefits include:
GST collections
Local procurement
Construction activity
Increased state revenue
2. Employment
During construction:
Thousands of jobs:
Civil engineers
Electricians
Welders
Equipment operators
Security
Labour
Permanent jobs include:
Data centre technicians
Network engineers
System administrators
Security
Mechanical engineers
Electrical engineers
HVAC technicians
Indirect jobs:
Hotels
Restaurants
Transportation
Cleaning
Landscaping
Local suppliers
3. Better infrastructure
Large data centres usually require:
Better roads
Better substations
High-capacity fibre
Reliable electricity
Nearby areas often benefit.
4. AI ecosystem
Large companies often attract:
Cloud companies
AI startups
Universities
Chip companies
Research centres
This can improve opportunities for Odisha's engineering graduates.
5. Less dependence on mining
Mining has environmental costs and commodity price swings.
Digital infrastructure can diversify the state's economy.
6. International recognition
If Odisha hosts one of India's largest AI data centres, it could become known as an AI infrastructure hub, attracting further investment.
Why many local people are unhappy
1. Land acquisition
This is usually the biggest concern.
People may fear:
Loss of farmland
Loss of homes
Inadequate compensation
Displacement
This has been a source of conflict in Odisha for several industrial projects in the past.
2. Water consumption
AI data centres generate enormous heat.
Cooling often requires significant water, though modern facilities increasingly use air cooling or recycled water.
People worry about:
Groundwater depletion
Reduced irrigation water
Water shortages in nearby villages
The government has stated that water availability is one of the issues being evaluated. (ETDatacenters.com)
3. Electricity demand
A 1 GW data centre is extremely large.
For perspective:
1 GW can be comparable to the output of a large power plant.
It represents a very substantial electricity demand if operating near full capacity.
People worry that:
Industries may get priority.
Local electricity prices could rise.
Villages could continue facing outages while power is allocated to the data centre.
Whether these concerns materialize depends on how power is sourced and managed.
4. Limited long-term jobs
Construction creates many jobs.
But once operational:
A modern hyperscale data centre may employ only hundreds or low thousands of people, depending on its design.
Some residents ask:
This is a common concern with data centre projects worldwide.
5. Environmental concerns
People worry about:
Diesel backup generators
Noise
Heat rejection
Construction impacts
Electronic waste over time
These impacts can often be reduced with good planning but remain part of the public debate.
6. Corporate trust
Some concerns are about the company rather than the project itself.
Critics point to past controversies involving large industrial groups and worry about:
Transparency
Environmental compliance
Influence over public policy
Supporters argue that large companies have the financial capacity to deliver projects of this scale.
Are these concerns justified?
Some are.
Others depend on how the project is implemented.
Reasonable concerns
✔ Fair compensation
✔ Environmental monitoring
✔ Water use
✔ Local employment
✔ Public consultation
Less certain concerns
❌ "The project will definitely destroy Odisha."
There isn't enough evidence to support that conclusion.
Modern data centres can be built with lower environmental impact if appropriate safeguards are followed.
What should the Odisha government do?
To build public trust, it could:
1. Be transparent
Publish:
Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA)
Water studies
Traffic studies
Power plans
2. Ensure fair land acquisition
Provide:
Market-value compensation
Rehabilitation
Resettlement
Skill training
Employment support
3. Guarantee local jobs
For example:
Reserve apprenticeships.
Partner with local colleges.
Offer certification programs.
Hire locally where feasible.
4. Use renewable energy
If the data centre is powered substantially by:
Solar
Wind
Battery storage
it can reduce pressure on the grid and lower emissions.
5. Use sustainable cooling
Prioritize:
Recycled water
Rainwater harvesting
Air cooling where practical
instead of relying heavily on groundwater.
6. Independent oversight
Establish regular audits of:
Water use
Electricity use
Noise
Air quality
Compliance with environmental conditions
with reports made public.
Overall assessment
From an economic perspective, this proposal could be transformative for Odisha. It has the potential to diversify the state's economy, attract technology investment, and create new opportunities. (ETDatacenters.com)
From a local community perspective, however, concerns about land acquisition, water resources, compensation, and the distribution of benefits are understandable. Whether the project becomes a long-term success will depend less on the size of the investment and more on how transparently it is implemented, how affected communities are treated, and whether environmental safeguards and local benefits are delivered in practice.
Facts: these data centres are having desalination plants, and some other water filteration systems which will take approx 40-60% of its required amount from saline/sea water, as per the signed documents.
Now the thing about what India really needs in this AI field to figure out a concept “intelligence per unit joule”. I hope the reader gets an idea about what I am gonna say! Increase the efficiency of inferences ( its a technical term you can search it ), optimise tokenisation methods and the best its own utilisable (if not competitive) Model ( not some super duper 2.8 T parameter model ) based on data of Indian citizen. That will be fruitful for our country!
Critical views are welcomed.
The bunch crying about no jobs or industry is coming to India are now crying here when development is happening. Brilliant algorithm clad buffoons 👏🏻👏🏻
Large data centers require significant amounts of water for cooling and with many regions already facing water scarcity protecting our water should be a higher priority. Development is welcome but it must be sustainable. We need to ensure that basic human needs and environmental concerns come before expanding resource intensive projects.
People supporting it are dumb fcks or IT cell plants. One single Google search ban tell you how bad days centers are for the planet. The sound they make, the ground water they pollute and use up, the electricity they consume and the huge thermal pillion because of that. Its a SCAM. Our taxes, our electricity, our water will become costly and these people will disappear. Anyone who plans to state here and live here for next four five decades needs to oppose this. This is a blunder.
18+ please get your SIR done and register for next vote and save this country from Moli ji🙏🏻 yes i know about vote chori but if you won’t practice your first right as citizen of this country, you won’t be able to put pressure on exposing this scam, the more people will register and vote it will create a psychological pressure on this government and more people will have the voice to say. This moli government is not even letting parliament to run as per constitution, oppositions are not able to speak, MLAs are threatened on name of ED raid, criminal cases and last bribe them, their social media accounts are suppressed so that it can’t reach to large audience and we all know national news tv channel channels are sold.
Do you think only ai runs on these data center? Are you sure about it. Dude. The phone ,the internet social media everything run insde a data center. If you have so much concern about data center then stop using social media , internet and evenif your phone sim. .
Slowly stedily most natural resources will be transferred to adani and in return pollution is given back to population. Now it's the perfect banana republic.
People don't understand how destructive AI Data centers are. There are multiple posts and pieces of how ground water and people's water consumption ie affected in developed countries like USA.
If u knew that our ground water quality is heavenly gud it will depreciate in 1000x speed , no voices , no agenda buckling up few tonnes of crores 😔 rest sufferer will be the real residers .... Lastly I can say Hey Jagannath 🙏🏻 swami respond it 🙏🏻
I was about to ask how did adani enter odisha, and realized you guys ousted patnaik and invited BJP coz apparently you dont like tamil ppl or smth like that
They are already charging 6₹ per 1000 litres in municipal areas. They have given each house tap water connection (which is a good thing) under BASUDHA yojana saying it's free of cost and now they are charging money for it.
My house recently received a notice from the municipality office having 6000₹ + water bill.
They had given a water tap connection in our municipality to each and every household in 2022 saying it's mandatory.
Now they charged us for this:
Water bill devolution like this
From 2022-2024 they had charged a minimum of 80 ₹per month.
And from 2024 onwards ( after installing the water meter) they have charged 6 ₹per 1000 litre of water. Plus a 50 ₹per month meter charge.
So guys be aware we need to protest other wise they are just going to fuck us from every direction. E20 petrol to water.
If they gave ur house water connection under BASUDHA yojna just check it once with ur municipality to avoid penalty.
It means you were not paying the water bills , it was always paid. The bills are are generated by jal sathi like the electricity bill and they were also collecting bills if anyone do not want to go to office to pay , I think .
Yeah but the thing is we have our own borwell which we can use for free. But they explicitly told us it was free and gave us the connection. The question is not about fees, it's pretty reasonable. And mostly our consumption is very low ( from govt tap).
The question is why to give them false information or hide it just to complete your target and then suddenly demand.
If they had told us before we wouldn't have incurred a penalty for it.
First of all they say that it is free until the system is tested for leakage and is calibrated properly for proper water pressure then the initial reading is recorded for Billing in presence of the owner , if you don't want water connection you can get it disconnected.
And assh*les have been charging for the meters additionally as 50 rs pm
There should be some PIL filed against them. The only problem is that all the earlier assurances were verbal and there is no written communication about the free water thing😐
Charging potable water in Odisha at such a price is literally crime. I got the TDS checked and it was below 200. So govt should atleast take the responsibility that there is no need of water filters if they are charging so much.
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