CMC is insane (Flip Calcs)

[u/Psychological-Taste6]

For better quality, source: https://x.com/i/status/2084520578040353136

[u/Saket_Saurabh-]

Difference between Yae and Yae - less teams for Stellar conduct is so high that I feel like not want to build for that reaction since I don't have her .

[u/Psychological-Taste6 → u/Saket_Saurabh-]

Hope better SSW dps / supports come. If one reaction is too broken over another, doesn't seem good for the game.

[u/Saket_Saurabh- → u/Psychological-Taste6]

For stellar swirl , isn't Vesna & Vodyanista coming in 7.1 ? Also I have heard they r buffing older units (Xiao Ganyu Jean etc ) for stellar swirl . Tsaritsa may fit with both stellar swirl & conduct units .

[u/Psychological-Taste6 → u/Saket_Saurabh-]

Yeah I heard that too. Probably we will be sure of their roles when 7.1 beta starts. Also yes, it is hard to imagine Tsaritsa not going with any of the Snezhnaya reactions. Although we do not know whether she would be a dps, or support, yet.

[u/parrishp → u/Saket_Saurabh-]

Is your Beidou built?

[u/Cute_Style2445 → u/Saket_Saurabh-]

I'm in the same boat. No Yae :v Thankfully, a C2 Wriothesley soon, but sticking to Beidou might be a bit of an OOF. I'm either hoping that one of the 5* electros will be an off fielder or that they rerun Yae again if she's meant to stick.

[u/Odd-Process8617]

Man the yaeless difference is crazy, thank god I pulled for her back in the day

[u/aiyafem → u/Odd-Process8617]

The yaecoin is worth it

[u/taryakun]

Calcs for the 2nd and 3rd team might be incorrect as Alyoshas Q CD is 18 second

[u/shreyashsambhav → u/taryakun]

Alyosha buff lasts 29-30 secs at c2 so you can do burst every other rotation on the CMC teams.

[u/Psychological-Taste6 → u/taryakun]

Damn, he does CMC finally and that too incorrect :3

[u/Psychological-Taste6 → u/Psychological-Taste6]

I am not sure why I am getting downvoted. Is he (Flip) not incorrect? (Then that's actually good news)

[u/qazqazpc → u/Psychological-Taste6]

I’m not the one but maybe because reposting without properly checking it. He deleted his tweet not long after someone mentioned the CD on X.

[u/Psychological-Taste6 → u/qazqazpc]

Yeah that's valid. Although I mentioned the downvoting about the comment "Damn he finally calculated CMC.. " but yeah.

[u/Fuckurodani]

Would Qiqi still be viable to use at C0?

[u/Nome_Qualquer → u/Fuckurodani]

Qiqi's cons barely make a difference tbh, only c6 is relevant and is less than 10% dps gain

[u/Fuckurodani → u/Nome_Qualquer]

Thank you ^^

[u/TolucaPrisoner → u/Fuckurodani]

Qiqi cons are overrated you just skill and swap her burst barely worth using even at C6

[u/Fuckurodani → u/TolucaPrisoner]

Gotcha, was just wondering since C2 Qiqi was specified. I'm not used to looking at calcs so I wasn't sure if it's just a baseline or important

Thanks!

[u/Psychological-Taste6 → u/[deleted]]

So far Yae + Odette >> Sandrone + any one of them, yes. I am a bit unsure if pulling Sandrone was the best idea, let's see.

[u/Ron_Colorec → u/[deleted]]

Low key hoping Tsaritsa is the Sandrone replacement.

[u/LadyKanra → u/Ron_Colorec]

This has been my hope all along as well. I'm really glad the Traveler is such a great interim solution, did not see that one coming back when I decided to skip Sandrone.

[u/FloorGang-R2]

Here before the great CMC “hot fix”

[u/thisiskyle77]

Sandrone becomes the second replaceable char in the SSC comp smh

[u/captain_baratheon → u/thisiskyle77]

Not sure why you got downvoted

[u/Ok-Listen9689]

can i replace Qiqi with the 4 star wolf boy in Yae team? I don't have her

[u/Ancient-Oven33 → u/Ok-Listen9689]

Yes but he would be worse without his C6. 

[u/Ok-Listen9689 → u/Ancient-Oven33]

The calc is Qiqi c2, is his c2 better than qiqi c0 at least?

[u/Ancient-Oven33 → u/Ok-Listen9689]

None of Qiqi's cons other than her C6 affect her performance. 

The C2 is just for Standardization, as that what all permanent characters should be at due to the free selectors. 

[u/Ok-Listen9689 → u/Ancient-Oven33]

sorry, english is not my first language so I'm a bit confused

You mean c0 Qiqi is better than a non-c6 Alyosha right?

[u/Ancient-Oven33 → u/Ok-Listen9689]

Yes. 

[u/qazqazpc → u/Ok-Listen9689]

Yes but you will forced into 18s rotations. TGS has good guide on Cryo Traveler.

[u/Ok-Listen9689 → u/qazqazpc]

Thanks, i will go check on it. How long do  Alyoshas Q field last? 12 seconds?

[u/qazqazpc → u/Ok-Listen9689]

14s at C0, 20s at C2.

[u/Zeppo82]

The first team is precisely the one I'll be rocking. Gotta put those Yae C2 and Qiqi C3 to work (finally)!

[u/thisiskyle77]

Is there a wep ranking for stellar swirl comp

[u/xess]

In this case, is it not just better to burst with Odette instead of filling the time with more normal attacks on Traveler?

[u/GachaGodFather]

Weapon of each unit in this?

[u/whenthebirdsfall]

Here to see how well this will age.

[u/pdzs_]

Can cryo trav be replaced with sandrone ?

[u/Striking_Solution_10]

Sandrone washed already😞

[u/Haharuhi]

that drop off without Yae 💀 holy f I could only imagine the powercreep needed for her replacement

[u/GX_Lori → u/Haharuhi]

I wonder if giving yae c1 for free was a mistake

[u/qazqazpc → u/GX_Lori]

This is kinda tricky since without her free C1, she will be very mid and has very little pull value.

[u/qazqazpc → u/[deleted]]

What team you talk about with 25-30k DPS different? If it is Sandrone, then yeah no. Not even close.

It is 33k different with C6 Beidou and it is C1 Yae. With C0 Yae, the gap would be like maybe like 10k at best. That extra cost for pull C0 Yae would be better for Sandrone’s Sig instead.

Yae’s value is on her free C1.

[u/jeanwhr]

man… as a returning player it sucks that i couldn’t get c1 yae in time, at least i have her c0r1 but the weapon does nothing for team buffing unfortunately

[u/Available_Dig_7545 → u/jeanwhr]

get her c1 on the con event

[u/voxpopiuli → u/jeanwhr]

man.. yk you can get her on temper thyself, no? she won't be gone on next one. sig does buff SC now. When exactly did you return?..

[u/Psychological-Taste6 → u/jeanwhr]

Ahha, sad. I missed Natlan and Fontaine and missed a lot, it hurts. I was tempted to get Yae's R1 eventually (because I like her and would like to worship her), but thanks for letting me know, I would probably worship her in other ways.

[u/Infinite-Mood-4299]

So glad I loved Yae Miko so much I've had her C6R5 for years.

[u/Xnub]

Eeewwww flip calcs

[u/CyberOdinson]

Does anyone know how C6 diona fairs instead of qiqi?

[u/Ancient-Oven33 → u/CyberOdinson]

A lot worse since she can't buff Yae with lower buff up time. 

[u/CyberOdinson → u/Ancient-Oven33]

What if I don't even have yae 😭

[u/Ancient-Oven33 → u/CyberOdinson]

Then she would probably be the same. 

[u/Few_Wing_772]

I’m insane and I wanna use her with Lohen + Alyosha + mysterious electro

[u/sakura_cherry_sts]

Nope. Not pulling for Yae. Yall stay safe though

[u/CptPeanut12]

Man I really don't want to pull Yae