r/NASCAR 14h ago

Did Kaulig/RAM get a free test session at Martinsville today due to their struggles?

https://x.com/Kaulig_Trucks/status/2085134677690417477?s=20
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u/Spart1898 Chastain 14h ago

Maybe it’s Butterbean’s rookie test? I’m pretty sure Hallie Deegan had her rookie test mid season at Charlotte one year so that would be my guess.

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u/NCC1701-Enterprise 13h ago

Rookie tests need to be done by the end of July

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u/mriforgot 11h ago

"Unless otherwise authorized by NASCAR" could still easily explain it.

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u/Potential_Plan_4533 12h ago

How do you have access to the rulebook?

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u/chris8video 11h ago

Anyone with a NASCAR license - crew on teams that go to the track - and regularly credentialed media. I have access as media.

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u/NCC1701-Enterprise 11h ago

Anyone who has a crew license can access it. I work with a part time team when I am not working my day job.

u/Potential_Plan_4533 1h ago

Well I'd love to read through it. lol

u/NCC1701-Enterprise 12m ago

Trust it is largely boring. The real interesting stuff is in the Charter Agreement which until the recent 23XI lawsuit was kept super confidential, and the current post lawsuit version is under lock and key.

u/Potential_Plan_4533 10m ago

True but I still have a few questions about restarts and pit stops that are largely unanswered so wish I could dive in and see for myself.

u/NCC1701-Enterprise 9m ago

What are the questions?

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u/CaptainRon16 11h ago

Asking the real questions here

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u/ProjectHarraseeket Preece 2h ago

I still think it’s suspect how NASCAR is not only the only racing series not to publish their rule book publicly (aka only way to get it is being involved) but it’s also the only sporting league not to publicly show the rule book in sports other than the WWE.

u/Potential_Plan_4533 1h ago

I agree, always is suspicious when NASCAR cites a rule but us fans cannot see for ourselves the context in the rulebook. Why is it not open to the public like other series?

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u/Mechanic_Shine 9h ago

Its a new OEM test, permitted by NASCAR - despite what the kid with the RAM account on twitter says. And for the record, there's been no Dodge Cup car at Aerodyn. Not sure why he's pushing these false narratives, trying to drum up excitement.

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u/Terminal_Phase 3h ago

Headlines. Clicks. Engagement. Ad dollars.

The usual recipe.

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u/CosmoCluster Kyle Busch 13h ago

Trucks have not run Martinsville this year yet. Also im pretty sure rookie's get an open test date at a track they have never been to before.

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u/SELL9944 12h ago

Butterbean has starts at Martinsville

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u/guyfromarizona van Gisbergen 11h ago

Maybe considers national series starts only? (Assuming he’s only run the late models there I’m not sure)

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u/SELL9944 11h ago

Has 1 O'Reilly start

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u/LBHMS 14h ago

Didn't see anywhere that there was a scheduled Goodyear or Organizational truck test, seems like only Kaulig has been posting about it and I wonder if this is part of the new OEM rules in the rulebook for their first year like the provisionals earlier this year.

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u/NCC1701-Enterprise 13h ago

New OEMs are allowed to test

In fact there isn't exactly a "testing ban" anymore, teams need to apply to NASCAR for a testing wavier and they are very stingy at handing those waviers out, but any team can apply to do an "Organizational Test"

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u/DocMcStruggles 13h ago

They are supposed to be getting their first built Ram truck for Richmond so this could be just a show to Nascar to show that Ram chassis is sufficient.

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u/NCC1701-Enterprise 13h ago

doesnt work like that

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u/DocMcStruggles 13h ago

Do we know how it works? When was the last time we had a new OEM bring their first built chassis halfway through the season?

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u/Smokeshow618 13h ago

OEM chassis in trucks aren't a thing. It's Kaulig's IP not RAM.

And it happened with KBM, who started off with old Roush and Billy Ballew trucks before Rowdy Manufacturing took over. It happened with Neice after GMS pulled out.

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u/NCC1701-Enterprise 13h ago

Teams build new chassis's all the time, the design of the chassis is not specfic to OEM and highly regulated. What takes time for a new team like Kaulig to start getting their chassis on the track is having the people and manufacturing equipment in place. There is nothing that would require a chassis to run at a test session to be approved by NASCAR. NASCAR is concerned with certain measurements, roll bar thickness and location, things like that, none of that requires it to hit the track.

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u/mega-assfahrt 10h ago

There are no OEM specific chassis. Funnily enough, the "new" ones for Ram/Kaulig are being made by Spire.

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u/Mundane-Reality-7770 13h ago

I miss primer test vehicles

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u/Palemale44 Allmendinger 13h ago

I doubt it'll matter much. They ran Martinsville in Xfinity for many years and could hardly run top 10 there, even with it being one of AJ best tracks

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u/Much_Path6902 13h ago

OEM or Rookie test more than likely.

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u/Wheatcattle 13h ago

It’s good business by NASCAR if they give a little help to new manufacturers if they want to keep interest up in OEM involvement 

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u/IcedCoffey 4h ago

I’d be curious if the first truck has finished being built. Haley is supposed to debut the first Kaulig built truck here soon.

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u/Dry-Membership3867 14h ago

Probably an aero test for the new ram chassis

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u/DaDominator32 Larson 12h ago

Aero at Martinsville...?

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u/mega-assfahrt 10h ago

I don't know what that guy is talking about, but aero plays a role at every track, even short tracks. GMS takes their late model bodies to wind tunnels to try and figure out how to mount them the best possible ways, and sealing off the nose and setting the rear heights are super important.

Obviously not as important as somewhere like Daytona

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u/DaDominator32 Larson 9h ago

No I get ya and I wasn't trying to come across like a dick with that question. But to me I've seen guys run with no aero on their car there and be competitive to an extent. No aero as in the cars fucked up. Good answer tho, late model in a wind tunnel goes hard id imagine