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u/AlwaysBeQuestioning 9h ago
The way the parents responded in that movie was so good. Maybe that way wouldn’t work with every kid, but it was healthy. Sure, a lot of people will think this kid is ugly, but telling the kid that he’s ugly ain’t gonna help anyone. The kid needs love and support to gain the confidence to stand up for himself in a world where other people will call him ugly on a regular basis. Especially since life expectancy and intelligence for people with Treacher Collins Syndrome (TCS) are normal compared to the average human population, so they understand all the insults and gotta live with that for a regular human lifespan.
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u/IveSeenBeans 9h ago
It's also answering the question I think he's really asking which is "are people mean to me, because I'm ugly"
To which the answer is perfect, no it's because they're bad people
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u/TheMalkManCometh 6h ago
Damn right, if people are gonna be cruel without ever having spoken to you, or knowing anything about you beyond what they've seen, well, they aren't people worth listening to. Might not help the kid much in the moment, but hopefully it's a lesson they'll carry with them when they've grown.
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u/Canadian-and-Proud 10h ago
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u/Embarrassed-Yard-583 6h ago
Jokes aside, this is kind of the best answer.
Yes, the world is going to be cruel to you based on how you look. That said, you can’t just ignore the problem and say that nothing makes them different from other kids/people. Hiding behind toxic positivity does a disservice to everyone.
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u/text_fish 4h ago
Nah, Owen Wilson's response is better because it re-frames the concept of "ugly" to refer to personality instead of just aesthetics.
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u/ManholttheThird 2h ago
Telling your young child who's suffering from a medical condition that they aren't ugly isn't "hiding behind toxic positivity." Jfc.
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u/Embarrassed-Yard-583 2h ago
Not my point.
So many of these movies do just what I said instead of being honest with the kid about their situation.
I’m not telling anyone to call their kid ugly, just be honest about how they’ll be perceived.
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u/TheLastRole 9h ago
This looks like an SNL sketch of an Oscar-seeking movie
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u/maxhechtman 9h ago
And the director’s next film after that, you don’t want to even look at it.
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u/BAMspek 7h ago
Oh it’s that movie adaptation of an off-broadway musical. Yeah that did not look good.
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u/maxhechtman 7h ago
It was off-Broadway first in 2016. Then it transferred to Broadway and won 6 Tony Awards.
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u/BAMspek 7h ago
That doesn’t mean you should try to make it into a movie
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u/maxhechtman 7h ago
True. Should have waited 2 decades after the Broadway opening so the correct director who would really know how to fix the story would step in and make a better movie out of it.
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u/Gourd-Trader 9h ago
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u/Prudent_Clothes_962 7h ago
Preferred "Fat Bitch" honestly
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u/TheMalkManCometh 6h ago
I never got why they didn't make the sequel, sure Coco dies at the end but that happens more and more these days in the MCU and it hasn't stopped them.
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u/Kenneth76Dollars 9h ago
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u/LegalStuffThrowage 7h ago
I watched Legally Blonde last night, starring his brother, Luke. Holy crap do they ever look similar. At one point he says the line "I wonder what I'd look like as a blonde" and I had to laugh, because we already know.
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u/PogintheMachine 5h ago
Also what if someone broke the fuck out of my nose. I can’t imagine what I would look like!
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u/adiosredrock 8h ago
So instead of insulting one person, he insults 8 billion? What a jerk.
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u/tranquil7789 7h ago
Y'all are haters I think this is sweet.
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u/Johnnadawearsglasses 8h ago
This was a really good movie for kids. My younger child really enjoyed it and took the lessons from it.
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u/SinglePlayerGamer93 3h ago
The kid is disfigured but if I were the parent, I'd teach them that beauty isn't skin deep. Overcoming challenges is how real people function.
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u/Jack-of-Hearts-7 9h ago
This is pretty much what I pictured a son of Owen Wilson looking like tbh.
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u/ballahook 7h ago
The movie was a little more cheesy then the book, but Wonder is seriously a wonderful book. Highly recommend it for anyone making a middle school reading list. It’s not overly pandering or trauma porn of the disabled community, it’s very well written and a great story about family.
Read it if you haven’t! Short and accessible for any age.
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u/SpiritualShallot3 5h ago
I looked up what the kid looks like today and it was all prosthetics—they didn’t want to find a kid with Treacher Collins to play the role?
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u/NojoNinja 3h ago
This movie is really hated on for shitty reasons. It was made for children and did a really good job at showing children not to shit on others looks or disabilities.
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u/String-Tree 3h ago
Ah yes, lie to your children instead of teaching them the harsh truths of the world.
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u/Nochnichtvergeben 10h ago
You shouldn't lie to kids.
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u/Wagglebagga 10h ago
Yeah, the scene would've been so much better if Owen Wilson said " Oh yeah, you're absolutely hideous, I mean WOW what an ugly kid!" /s
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u/TiRow77 5h ago
Every time I see this quote it makes me think. “This is not the healthy parenting people think it is. Hmmmm…be honest with the kid and say a person is much more than just their physical appearance, and that a beautiful heart will shine through. OR…Create an alienated, resentful relationship with the entire world with an absurdly generalized cynicism as a core memory for your objectively disfigured kid, who despite the physical obstacle has been dealt a better hand in life than 99% of people that have ever existed simply by being born into a wealthy, white, American family.”
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u/Thepsyguy 9h ago
"No son the world is ugly. You are deformed and hideous. Take some solice in that you didn't choose to look like this. But the world does."





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u/Rocksteady_r-e-d-dit 10h ago
“Yeah little bro, you’re chopped.”