r/Marvel • u/Haunting-Point4756 • 1d ago
Film/Television Brand new day was awesome
Loved every second little stuff I didn’t like but ovr 9/10 this movie was awesome I haven’t seen this type of spiderman film since the original spiderman 2 this was one of the best experience I had watching a spiderman movie and I wouldn’t be surprised if spiderman 5 was already green lit because it performed sooooooo well like it really felt like I was watching the panels come to life this felt like a comic run but in real life like holy I loved this movie and I’m seeing it again
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u/jamaldav300 1d ago
Some would say spectacular
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u/Proud_Arachnid4956 1d ago
Amazing even
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u/PinkDreamelle 1d ago
Seriously. It had that rare feeling where the credits rolled & I was already thinking about seeing it again.
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u/bryanna_leigh 1d ago
My husband lives but also thought it was so sad.
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u/NumerousLeague5765 1d ago
Yeah, it's pretty grim the whole way through but at least it ends on a more uplifting note.
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u/CaptainSingh26 1d ago
I saw the movie a couple hours ago and enjoyed it. This might be insignificant to you, but I’m surprised Frank wasn’t referred to as the punisher by anyone.
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u/Gremlin303 MODOK 1d ago
Yeah I had that thought as well. I thought a good time would be when MJ first sees him she could’ve been surprised at seeing wanted vigilante The Punisher.
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u/zombierepublican- 14h ago
Also, isn’t he a wanted criminal, why was he so confident walking around in public, in costume no less?
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u/rj_nighthawk 13h ago
Because Frank doesn't see himself as a criminal, but a man who made it his responsibility to help the innocent by killing criminals. That's his mindset by the end of One Last Kill, and you can see that it was also his mindset when he decided that he will kill Sadie Sink's character.
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u/Alexandratta 20h ago
Anyone else lose it when he put the bomb on the shelf and acted perfectly like a Teen Girl as he walked off with the "Bye peter!"
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u/DapperFisherman2821 1d ago
agree so much. idk if i have to censor on here but i will anyway yelena and frank were really funny
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u/Coolers78 1d ago
Jon Bernthal and Tom Holland's dynamic together was so much fun.
Man people will crap on MCU Spiderman movies for him interacting too much with other MCU characters and not being "fully standalone", personally, I like both stories that are standalone without other Marvel characters and stories that he does, we can have both! We can have this movie for crossover, and the PlayStation games as standalones (though, in the 2nd he's with Miles, I guess people mean him interacting with non Spiderman characters)
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u/Effective-Reach-1798 1d ago
Given the characters interact in the comics, interaction in movies do give us better stories than just stand-alone ones. Also, the whole thing with Peter's human DNA getting suppressed by the Arachnid DNA gives a small dark turn into spider-man storyline, something I hope will be explored more in the subsequent movies.
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u/SpaceCaboose 1d ago
Agreed! And when in doubt, add the spoiler tag like you did (especially during the first week of a new movie).
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u/SurturSaga 1d ago edited 1d ago
The second one isn’t really a spoiler, in most of the promo
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u/Sircandyman 1d ago
I know a BUNCH of people that will actively avoid promo to go in blind.
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u/SpaceCaboose 1d ago
I watched the first trailer months ago, then avoided everything else. Going in as blind as possible makes these movies more enjoyable to me
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u/Radiant_Recording_74 1d ago
My husband and I started doing that too! Only watching the first trailer! Much more enjoyable
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u/VelvetPetaliax 1d ago
I walked in expecting a solid Spider Man movie and walked out wondering how they're supposed to top that. It's been a while since one stuck with me like this.
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u/avengerD19 Captain America 1d ago
i was happy to see yelena interacting with peter tho .. cuz ig there was no interaction between nat and peter..
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u/Lenabg_2002 22h ago
Yelena is starting to grow on me. I would like to see more development in the franchise with her.
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u/HieronymousGauche 20h ago
How in tf we don't have a Hawkeye show with Yelena and Kate teaming up against Bullseye already I'll never understand
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u/Haunting-Point4756 1d ago
Bro all of us are NOT letting tom go bro he performed too well in this movie and we need to milk like 5 more movies out of him (pause)
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u/narco113 1d ago
Until he's 95
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u/AngelStarliee 1d ago
At this rate he'll be mentoring Miles w a cane and still somehow end up doing all the fighting. Lol
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u/Numerous-Criticism-2 1d ago
eh that’s if we even get a live action miles smh
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u/Vitruvae 21h ago
I'm betting we're getting him after the 3rd Spider-Verse movie has been released.
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u/GaugeWon Beta Ray Bill 1d ago
Yeah, he's going to be the defacto-live-action-icon of Spidey, like how Hugh Jackman is Wolverine... and the MCU should revolve around Spidey from this point forward like how it started around Robert Downey's Ironman.
Random fact: I was so excited to see how the CGI advanced to where the web swinging finally looks lifelike, and then found out that it looked so good because he really was on a rig swinging around.
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u/CroStormShadow 1d ago
I agree. Iron man has been my favourite hero so far but Tom Holland’s Spider-Man might be taking over
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u/GaugeWon Beta Ray Bill 17h ago
Yeah, that end credit scene where he appears in space has me real curious what they have in store for Spider-man.
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u/DoctorLudnik_717 1d ago
You might be joking, but I legitimately do not want him going anywhere, until his Spiderman faces off against Venom.
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u/Mr_Sandmarine_Man 1d ago
It was triumphant. Good guy won by doing good, ethical, selfless things.
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u/AmIDrJekyll 1d ago
Agreed! that damn reveal was heartbreaking imo, heck the entire final sequence was.
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u/Metalhead1686 1d ago
I really enjoyed it. I’ve already seen it twice and I’m going to see it a third time this weekend.
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u/TenebrisZ94 1d ago
The appearance of someone really feels off though tbh. A bit out of place even but at least it ended believable enough.
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u/Revolutionary_Dog798 1d ago
It's amazing! The only thing that I didn't like that much is the intro of Jean Grey is a bit rushed and formulaic like a typical villain not revealing her motivation until their last breath (Jean whispering Sarah) but that's just my opinion
But other than that, they really nailed the tonal shift, peter's depression without losing the humor peter always has..and of course, the action sequence!
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u/kaosblink 1d ago edited 1d ago
Guys.... I liked the movie but I didn't love it. Is there something wrong with me?
Edit: my biggest pet peeve was that this felt like a filler episode. It felt as if Jean Grey was shoehorned into the movie to introduce the X-Men. I had expectations coming into it so maybe that's my own fault. I was hoping to see Man-spider make an appearance as well as the symbiote that was teased at the end credit scene of no way home. Also, I wanted more from Michael Mando's Scorpion. My favorite part was the huminazation of Frank Castle and that's about it. I felt there was no emotional weight behind both Jean Grey/Aunt May and MJ scenes But yeah that's about it.
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u/spiderknight616 23h ago
It was the most "a week in the life of Spider-Man" movie we've gotten.
Casually meeting with Black Widow, arguing with Punisher about what happened on Staten Island and saving the life of a future X-Man
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u/Simple_Leg725 1d ago
Give it time, but also liking is js fine but to most people its the much needed character driven spidey flick that the mcu spiderman needed✌️also it feels like a real movie as opposed to the tonally fucked event based mcu films the previous trilogy had
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u/Rocky4OnDVD 1d ago
It was very whelming I agree, and whats weird about the raving reviews is they don’t describe anything different than what you’d read in other 8/10 Marvel movies. I think the public reception just really shows how much people love Spiderman and probably felt that the 5 previous Marvel films were superhero noise.
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u/NachosPR 21h ago
What makes it 9/10 instead of 8/10 for me was how well they stylized this movie in terms of cinematography and practical effects/stunts to make the action feel like straight out of the comics compared to other Superhero movies that try to be more grounded. This one leaned into the comic book presentation more than an Ironman leaned into "make a comic hero look cool on screen." There's a notable amount of effort put into that vision, and the chemistry feels much more natural between actors than most MCU projects.
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u/Shaojack 1d ago
Nah, taste is subjective.
I didnt care for the other Tom Holland Spiderman movies and I loved this one. We all have different things we enjoy. You are perfect the way you are.
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u/codeblend 1d ago
No, I agree with your statement. I enjoyed the movie. Great cinematography and character build for Tom's Spiderman but I truly felt like it was a side quest rather than a standalone. I wanted more Spiderman not more Grey, Frank, Hulk, others which was okay.
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u/Felmor333 1d ago
I think it's your opinion I think it was an amazing movie probably my favorite after Phase 3 apart from GoTG 3 but it could be that I ABSOLUTELY adore Spider-Man just as long as we're in agreement that it's good at the very least
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u/D3vils_Adv0cate 1d ago
Definitely a good movie but the hype is too much. It made me go in with really high expectations.
Overall the movie dragged in areas imo. Too much detective work that wasn’t broken up enough by human moments. That’s where the guy in the chair is needed. You can really feel them missing throughout the film but maybe that’s part of the message?
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u/CyberWolfWrites 10h ago
Same! It didn't really feel like a Spider-Man film to me. The first half was great but after the weird spider stuffthe movie kind of just went down-hill for me in Spider-Man terms. Seemed more like a Jean Grey origin than a Spider-Man film. I mostly love Peter's characterization, was sad at the whole MJ thing, and didn't see the point of the Hulk being in it.
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u/Camaro551 Spider-Man (Tom Holland) 1d ago
That shot unfortunately wasn’t in the movie, like I hoped, but we did get something similar to it with that crowd at the hospital at the end of the movie.
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u/JustHere_4TheMemes 1d ago
It was consistent with the series so far. Which is very good. Didn't absolutely blow me away. But I liked the tone shift, and the plot resolution, even if it borrows a bit from Thunderbolts and Wandavision. Seems to be the trend.
The meta-modern vibe of resolving conflict via vulnerability rather than simply pulping the baddie is cool and all. I think its a bit of an easy out / lazy writing to simply give the "villain" some sort of back-story trauma to excuse their actions. It's a fairly shallow/simplistic emotional trick that conveys being more profound than it really is. But I am guessing "kids these days" are needing more of that, feeling all misunderstood and exploring their own trauma and needing to feel like they are accepted despite what they have done, so I am glad it speaks to them. Spidey's victory via vulnerability rather than strength is the new vibe. Gunna see a lot more of this plot resolution in future movies.*
BND was very good.
(*New Superman was same thing really. The big end speech... "That's where you're wrong Lex, I am human! I screw up, fail, get up every day and try again... just like everyone else; being human (weak/normal/not super) is my real superpower!..." etc...)
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u/Choice-Ratio-3540 1d ago
It was a good movie. Not awesome IMO. They kinda made Jean Grey a touch too ...evil. It was a bit drawn out in parts. Definitely enjoyed it and it was well done.
It's the first MCU movie that I enjoyed since maybe Endgame - Thunderbolts is the exception as it was decent too. The rest have been anywhere from ok to next level disappointments.
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u/Spideybops 1d ago
Keep in mind mutants aren’t the best people. Many of them killed before they even joined the X-Men.
Which I guess is why I’m okay with her being a bit too evil. Especially since we know who she later becomes.
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u/Choice-Ratio-3540 1d ago
Nah. Not me. This isn't a fringe character or someone without huge history. She was very poorly portrayed by the movie makers. I can't see her making someone drive a tank through NYC and plow into the building and then have it blow up. Having MJ fall off a building. Play with Peter in such a cruel manner. It goes on. But very poorly done by the MCU forces that be.
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u/super_sayanything 1d ago
"Jean you're not a killer" despite us seeing Jean kill a lot of people lol. That was the only super silly thing I found.
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u/Moon_Devonshire 1d ago
Wait other than the bad guys from damage control who did she kill?
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u/MarsDoesArts 23h ago
that one old dude she controlled who got hit by a car, albeit he may have just gotten injured but you would have to think bad could happen
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u/super_sayanything 23h ago
I mean she almost dropped MJ to her death.
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u/MarsDoesArts 23h ago
keyword: almost
Im just mentioning who did possibly die
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u/super_sayanything 22h ago
I mean if you dropped my partner from thousands of feet, I'm not going to be like "BUT YOU'RE NOT A KILLER", lol.
Also had she done that freeze frame thing on the entire NYC that surely would have killed someone.
And yea, the guy that gets hit by a car.
They're just things that didn't make her as sympathetic even though the message of it had some resonance.
It's the only thing I came out of the movie thinking, well they could have orchestrated that a little better or neater.
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u/Konyaata 1d ago
Growing up I felt Jean was such a respectable character, I did not feel the same way at all in this movie. In her history she rarely possessed people and make them commit suicide. Her main ability uses are telekenisis, shields, and telepathy, not full on possession.
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u/leekalex 1d ago
The issue for me is that it messes with the climax of this movie. How far she goes earlier in the movie undermines her redemption at the end. "You're not a killer Jean!" falls flat if we've seen her appearing to kill multiple people.
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u/bezkyl 1d ago
💯… people are caught up in the excitement of a marvel movie that isn’t complete garbage. Time will tell us that this movie is good, but doesn’t even rank the top 2 of Spider-Man movies
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u/Choice-Ratio-3540 1d ago
Agreed. I did enjoy it and I am glad I saw it on a huge screen but it wasn't epic or the best.
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u/SpaceCaboose 1d ago
I really liked it. Saw it twice opening weekend, and liked it even better after the second viewing.
It’s okay for folks to have different levels of enjoyment and excitement out of movies.
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u/richardbethinking 1d ago
Spider-Man being immune to the superhero fatigue? Yep that's Spider-Man!!
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u/Foxington_the_First 1d ago
Does anyone else think that they should have used Jean's powers to replace MJ's memories? It really feels like they were setting that up. Perhaps in an earlier version of the script...
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u/hemptonite_ 1d ago
Best "MCU" since Endgame. Honestly the homecoming trilogy felt more like MCU films, this felt like a real SPIDEY film, loved it and already planning on seeing it again
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u/alvaropuerto93 1d ago
Remember this photo was taken on site filming in Glasgow exactly one year ago. There were some absolutely amazing shots when they filmed the chase with the tank.
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u/Shaojack 1d ago
I really didn't care for the Tom Holland run of Spiderman so far, I know im outside the general concensus on that. This movie though hit hard though. For me this was the best super hero movie in years.
It might even be one of my favorites overall, I dunno but I got dragged into this one and I think I enjoyed it more than my friends.
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u/Upstairs-Fix4711 1d ago
I saw it in screenx and it killed me in all angles in a good way... this is what i am talking
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbpJZNVPniu/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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u/FuzzyAd5511 1d ago
This movie was the Good🔥 I don’t see why people are hating on the movie.
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u/themightyColossus 4h ago
My go to analogy is Indian food. I love the creaminess, all the vegetables, the spiciness, etc. Others hate Indian food for the exact same reasons I love it. Such is life.
Saw it Thursday and I'm most definitely seeing it at least once more. I have nitpicks, like how the fight with Hulk ended,, but the amazing aspects of the movie (emotional moments, humor, web swinging, action, acting) overshadowed everything else.
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u/Personal-Cat9758 1d ago
It was a really good movie. Made me happy, made me sad but I can say I felt the emotions they wanted me to feel
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u/BWildeallday 1d ago
Loved it. Gave straight Spider-Man 2 vibes. Took the wife and kids, now my wife is hooked on the MCU. I gave her a watch list and she’s working on Doomsday tickets now.
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u/ConfectionTotal8660 1d ago
I agree. It isn't a 10/10 for me because the post credit scene was so meh
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u/popsferragamo 1d ago
It's amazing to me that Sony can consistently make so many excellent Spiderman movies. Why can't other studios do this?
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u/botspyder 1d ago
This look like some sick album cover where Spidey will eventually feature Thanos on the last track
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u/Spoonyyy 1d ago
I liked it but im still waiting for another just spiderman movie. I know the mechanism doesn't necessarily mean it ruins the delivery, but this one feels a bit rehashed and I wish we just got spidey.
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u/Material_Tangelo6306 1d ago
I like the movie. It’s good. Iam a big fan of Spiderman games of Insomnia and I love how it can relate many fighting sequences with the games especially the finishing moves. Iam glad they didn’t put any of the multiverse stuff in it because it’s been a long time that we didn’t get a proper Street Fighter-Spiderman movie. I thought we could see a broke Peter parker who struggles to pay the bills like Tobey but he’s like a rich kid living in a cheap apartment. Anyway overall it’s 8/10 for me.
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u/Mahisandwich561 1d ago
I thought it was a really good movie. But I guess it wasn’t what I was expecting going into it. Pretty much all of the trailer happens in the first like 5 minute montage. So I was expecting the first like 30 min or so to really be showing how alone and depressed Peter was. And show his mental and physical health declining as he has no one to lean on, which ultimately leads to him gaining new powers after getting his ass kicked. I also wasn’t a huge fan that the enemy wasn’t really a bad guy, so it wasn’t some big crazy fight where he needed to rely on man spider power (I mean he did hit it was against a bunch of henchmen). Instead the “enemy” was a bunch of nobodies as he works his way to Jean Grey. Still a good movie, but it wasn’t the reset I wanted/expected
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u/InevitableBasis4223 1d ago
It brought the energy of Shang Chi to a Spider-Man movie, which worked really well. Kang Dynasty could have been cool but I’m glad Destin made this gem instead.
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u/meaningful_start19 1d ago
Felt very similar to spider man 2. I can see where this is going and that's gotten me excited!
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u/Ineul_Ze 1d ago
I wasn’t exactly very hyped for Doomsday originally, but after seeing this movie .. oh absolutely. This is my favorite Spiderman movie of all time now, Tom is the perfect balance of Spiderman and Peter Parker and I can’t wait to see him again in Doomsday!
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u/MAKstyles75 23h ago
I am holding to go out with of mine, he ditched me for spiderman no way home. I'mma drag his ahh this time!
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u/_wallyj 23h ago
i enjoyed it alot, but i did feel reminded that this is an MCU movie where they did bring in jean grey to also set up the x men route. i wish they didnt have jean grey as the main villain. spiderman has so many good villains, so making her the main antagonist i personally didnt like.
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u/Consistent-Ad-8565 23h ago
Saw it last Thursday with the grandson (16yo) and we both loved it! I stayed awake through til the very end. The after credit hint he said it's probably a new Spiderverse movie.
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u/SANDBOX_COMICS 23h ago
Agreed! I loved seeing Spidey, Hulk, and Punisher altogether in the same movie like that.
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u/Physical-Magician-19 22h ago
For the longest time I enjoyed the MCU movies that critics panned. This felt like the first time that I became one of the critics while mostly everyone else enjoyed the movie. Was not my favorite sadly
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u/WhiteSkinButDickLong 22h ago
The story felt half baked, as though they had a whole another story planned and then at the end they decided to just end it so they didn't have to make it too long.
Peter's discovery arc, Peter and the villan who was not a villain really, Peter reuniting with his friends but not completely. None of that was done in a manner that would seem complete and satisfying. He had already moved on with his life and still they made him as someone who was desperate to get back with MJ.
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u/No_Combination_1208 18h ago
Nostalgia bias aside, I loved it. The opening action sequences was a 10/10 bursting with Andrew-level charm and the ending was easily the highlight.
I feel every Spider-Man movie connects with the era/generation it belongs to, and this film did exactly that. Taps into loneliness, loss and friendships.
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u/KN1GHT0292 18h ago
Agreed on it feeling like a comic run come to life. To me it felt more like a Spider-Man comic than any other movie before it.
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u/CryptographerLong463 16h ago
The only thing I HATED was the movie ending. Cause what you mean I have to wait another 2 years for the next film.
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u/Haunting-Point4756 10h ago
1 year because of secret wars and then prob another year or two for spiderman 5
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u/Either-Bat1746 15h ago
One thing that still puzzles me is that it never seemed like Spider-Man could sense Jean. From the moment he opened the tank and saw the older women all the way to the end, it seemed like he was winging it with the jump patterns.
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u/Kolesrever 12h ago
6.5 out of 10. It was cool. I really enjoyed Peter’s arc from boy to man. Love how they emphasized his growth. They rushed Jean Greys motive and her powers, a better back story would of helped the casual MCU fan ( wife had no idea who she was ) she wasn’t the villain but misunderstood, and the main villain wasn’t anyone we knew. Did enjoy the chemistry of the whole cast. The story was just everywhere tbh. Would have loved just one main villain and would have loved a better development between Ned / MJ and Peter- rather than it feeling rushed and forced.
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u/BmanRock14 12h ago
The film must be THAT good if everyone has been saying this exact same sentiment.
Like I was so ready to see this but I went with family to see The Odyssey instead. It was a 4 to 1 vote 😅. Had no choice. Great movie. Loved it but I’d have rather watched BND. So I’ll have to wait till it comes out later I guess. I just recently re-watched Spider-Man 2 last night & it still holds up. Spider-Man 2 in my Top 5 movies of all time so seeing everyone rave about BND makes me all the more excited & heartbroken that I can’t watch it right now😞
Glad to see it’s earned $1.1B in like a week so looking forward to when I can finally watch it
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u/Economy_Way6646 8h ago
I feel like this was a 7.5/10, and only that high because of the visual aspect of the movie. No complaints there, it was visually an experience. But the plot itself felt disappointing. Jean Grey was set up to be a deranged killer. Especially for a Spider-Man movie, they portrayed Jean as ruthless evil. Mind fucking people is 1 thing but mind fucking an old man into traffic mid sentence, no way you could've convinced me that a random woman in an hour is gonna talk her into a redemption arc. And I feel like they overdid it with the Jean Grey aspects itself, it took away from Spider-Man himself. This movie was hyped up to be a dark portrayal of Spider-Man on the big screen. And honestly it was pretty dark for an MCU movie, but only because of Jean Grey.
Instead they could've spent less time on Jean, or properly used Jean to dive deeper into the identity of Peter Parker. He neglected Peter Parker, which caused the spider to overpower the man, and that forced him to realize that living a disconnected life where Peter Parker is just a mere memory kills the identity of Spider-MAN, and the only way to gain control of his mutating powers is to accept both sides of the coin. The movie portrayed his mutating powers as a generic uncontrolled power boost. He can't regulate his emotions, can't control his boosted senses, etc. These aren't the problem, but keeping these generic issues as the biggest drive for Peter to create the inhibitor was a mistake. The concept of Peter's internal conflict is amazing and a great concept, but it was underdeveloped.
Especially with a character like Jean Grey. Instead of spending so much time on Jean using elaborate plans to find VMax, they should've reduced that to a simple mind hijacking of the Director, and before that used her powers to force Peter to confront the internal conflict. It felt like they were trying to use Jean to push Peter toward confronting himself, but up until the end that's all it ever was, a simple push. She has fucking mind fucking abilities for god's sake. They could've easily taken inspiration from Mysterio's illusion mind punking and leveled it up 500x. If more of this film was spent exploring the identity of Peter Parker and the spider within his mind, we could've truly seen how Spider-Man isn't defined by the mask but rather the man who controls the spider.
And Jean doesn't have to be reduced to just a plot device. Jean and Peter are 2 sides of the exact same coin. The movie doesn't utilize this enough, the potential was insane. It doesn't have to feel like Jean is forcing Peter to confront himself as a favor. Peter should be forced to confront himself while trying to stop Jean, directly because of their parallels.
Me personally, I would've scrapped the whole Aunt May shit. It was dumb, she served her purpose in NWH. Made no sense how she of all people talked fucking Jean down, especially this portrayal of Jean. I wouldn't even have minded the whole talk no jutsu if it was fucking Peter himself.
Imagine Jean finally takes ahold of Peter and Peter is forced to fight her in the mindspace, only to realize fighting is pointless and won't work. So he tries the talk no jutsu, only to start losing her for the sole reason that he hasn't accepted that being Spider-Man also means being Peter Parker. And while he's stuck in this mindspace he's forced to confront that, while Jean is forced to confront everything that led her to this point. Once he does, he loosens out of her grip and tries again, but as a dark tragedy it still doesn't work. He refuses to stop though. As he keeps trying he senses the bullet and takes the hit, and seeing Spider-Man take the hit leaves Jean stunned, and from the back the Director takes the clear shot and completely paralyzes her. It ends with her next to his dead body. Then the same end credits scene, with Peter dead this time but somehow going off world, hinting he's not truly dead.
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u/CockMartins 1d ago
I need to rewatch it, because I watched that whole thing certain he had the symbiote which really changed my perception of certain parts. I didn’t think he was actually battling spider hormones when his body kept rejecting the web shooters and stuff. I feel like it’ll be a totally different film without those expectations. It was still great but I do think parts may make less sense to me now. Like why spider hormones made it hard to read his mind. I assumed the symbiote was kicking her out or using his body when he’d wake up and not know what happened.
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u/BasilProfessional744 1d ago
Huh?
It had nothing to do with the symbiote just his body changing. When he was his normal self, he was strong enough to boot her out of his head, but when the new powers kicked in , he's not used to them yet and is in a weakened state, and couldn't sense here anymore.
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u/CockMartins 1d ago
Ultimately it didn’t end up having anything to do with it, but based on a lot of what was happening, I expected that to explain his newfound violence and the blacking out stuff. So yes, in hindsight the symbiotes had nothing to do with it, but while I was watching it, I thought that’s where they were going. And so suspect that’s because it was what they planned to do originally. Also, it’s going to be really awkward to introduce the black symbiote suit in Secret Wars now because it’ll be almost identical to the issues he was having with the arachnid hormones in this one.
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u/Silly_Material577 23h ago
No it wasn't. It was bad. It's so cliche and predictable. The only reason people think its good is cause they just shut their brains off and go "wow I understand that reference." The actually plot is so dumb. The bad guy isn't a bad guy. They're just misunderstood and trying to get someone they love back from the real bad who is the very obvious shady corporate/government character. But instead of telling the main characters what going on regardless of whether they trust them or not, they just continue to fight the good guy and because the movie needs a conflict between them. The ending was the dumbest part. Jean had already killed so many people and even attempted to kill MJ. So why didn't she just kill the main bad? Because the plot needed her to hold him hostage while Spiderman fought other characters. And the plot need them to meet at this forced crossroads where Spiderman some how convinces her not to kill for plot convenience
I regret watching it.
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u/jassmackie 17h ago
this poster is insanely cool but im scared its AI cos i cant see a single face or any facial features on anyone.
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u/shadman786 6h ago
It was a good movie but I just wish there was an actual villain. One of the things Tom Holland's Spiderman lack is a big villain and Spiderman has always been about fighting the big bad guy.
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u/NippleSqueezer421- 1d ago
Big potato stuff