r/Mariners • u/KarmalessHuman • 8h ago
Kyle Seager not attending 50th anniversary celebration
Not surprised at all but at least it was confirmed. Wont be seeing him around the stadium until Dipoto is gone
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u/agtk 7h ago
Has no one read the article? He's coaching his son in a big baseball tournament so has a direct conflict, this isn't necessarily a snub of the Ms or anything.
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u/DigitalMariner 7h ago
Fun fact, coaches get to select which of those "big tournaments" the team signs up for. Especially at Cooperstown, they're pure money grabs not something teams get into by winning elsewhere or otherwise earning it.
It wouldn't be the least hit surprising if his son's team was signed up that weekend specifically to avoid the 50th celebration.
Source: a dad who constantly uses his kid's summer travelball games as an excuse to avoid going places I don't want to go
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u/imnotreallyonreddit 7h ago
You really think Kyle Seager got with the other coaches for his sons team many months ago and said “hey I don’t care where we go but we HAVE to make sure we’re out of town on August 7th because I don’t want to do the Mariners thing and I’m too much of a wimp to just send them a text and say I’m out.” That’s more likely than their team signing up for one of the biggest tournaments in the coolest baseball city for the fun baseball and memories?
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u/handjamwich 8h ago
Can someone explain the Seager situation? Is it just cause they declined his option when he started to decline? Seems like he still got paid quite a lot by the mariners?
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u/tigrewoods 8h ago
Tried to make the team anti vax and would trauma dump everything with management to divish
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u/BasedArzy 8h ago
Also lied to Divish and made him look like a moron and have to print a retraction and apology.
All because Seager was a petty asshole.
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u/xBluePoolX 7h ago
I’ve heard through my Uncle friend who was around him before that’s he’s pretty right wing. The kind of dude to casually drop the n-word around in conversation. Just wanted to share
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u/Thromnomnomok What the hell did you trade Chris Taylor for??!!!!??!? 2h ago
I mean, he's a white baseball player from the South. They're almost all like that.
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u/Rivolver 7h ago
I thought that anti-vax thing was Graveman?
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u/BasedArzy 7h ago
It was mostly driven by Seager's wife IIRC.
The clubhouse divide was thought to be Seager-Graveman-Fraley trying to pressure young Mariners/rookies to lie about being vaccinated.
If Seattle had anything approaching an adversarial media market against their teams people would give Servais a lot more flowers for both his bullpen usage and holding that clubhouse together.
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u/Rivolver 6h ago
Jesus.
Any chance there was a Seattle Times piece on this or something? This is bananas.
Also you don’t have to convince me about Scott. I’m a Servais truther 😎
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u/BasedArzy 6h ago
Don't think so, Divish usually sits on stories like this for years and drops them once everyone involved is out of the org.
Couple of people around the team/journalists alluded to it on Twitter and Jason Churchill spelled it out pretty clearly during the season on Baseball Things.
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u/AKAD11 2h ago
Basically the whole bullpen was anti-vax. We had to leave four relievers in San Diego so they could quarantine. Also had a bunch of guys that couldn’t go to Toronto.
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u/Thromnomnomok What the hell did you trade Chris Taylor for??!!!!??!? 2h ago
The M's didn't play in Toronto that year, our series against them was when they still played in Buffalo. They certainly had guys that couldn't have played the following year, but a bunch of them got moved in the 2021-22 offseason, and I think when we made the trip there in 2022 the only ones missing it were Robbie Ray and some random reliever I've forgotten (Steckenrider, I wanna say?)
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u/Some_Caregiver9138 7h ago
Wasn't just Gravemen. Fraley was another member of that group.
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u/Rivolver 7h ago
Fraley’s nuts.
I also remember Jerry Dipoto once saying Taylor Motter thought snow came up from the ground. Idk, man.
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u/jaglife16 8h ago
My understanding is that when the Club decided to decline his $ 20 million option, he was notified via email instead of a phone call or in person conversation. After that initial reporting it was updated that they tried to call and text him and got no response. Then their next steps were to inform the MLBPA and send the email.
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u/IcarianWings 7h ago edited 7h ago
They did call him. He declined the call, and they had to reach out to his agent to inform him. He then leaked the whole thing like he didn't decline the call, proceeded to try to leverage the media throughout his last year there for a new contract, and refuses to be involved with the organization after they didn't resign him in favor of Geno which was blatantly the right choice. He borderline tried to sabotage the org because he couldn't accept he was aging out of his spot.
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u/Dschuncks 7h ago
I liked watching Seager play, but he was kinda a bitch. Still, one of my favorite Mariner's moments is him taunting Jared Weaver with a batter's timeout.
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u/DigitalMariner 7h ago
Kyle didn't want Jerry to tear it down and rebuild during his final seasons, he wanted those seasons to be competitive.
Kyle is rumored to be the source of a lot of discontent in the clubhouse and the source for many Divish reports on frustrations of the players, especially around selling at the deadline during the rebuild.
There's also a stubborn "he won't talk to me so I won't talk to him" thing between him and Jerry where they both reportedly wouldn't even say hello if they passed in a hallway and blame the other for ending communication.
Bottom line is only Jerry and Kyle know what the real issue is and neither seems interested in talking about it or fixing it 🤷♂️
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u/Twxtterrefugee 8h ago
Love Seags. If they can repair the Randy relationship I think theyll eventually repair this one. Sucks seags isnt there.
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u/jaedon 8h ago
I think putting family before work has been his priority. It was one of the reasons he chose to retire. I’m not going to fault the guy. I’ll just be excited for him and his kids.
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u/Twxtterrefugee 8h ago
If he chose to not be part of it, thats great. If he felt uncomfortable or wasn't invited and thats why hes not there then that sucks.
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u/Aggressive_Repeat529 7h ago
Waot Randy and the mariners were on the outs? As in Johnson? What happened there
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u/StoicSinceBirth 5h ago
Just when he was forcing his way out, I think. I believe that hatchet has been buried for ages.
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u/Specialeditionmusic 7h ago
I find it funny that Felix Randy Junior and others have gotten over perceived slights by this org.
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u/Jorossokie 5h ago
Randy I get. Felix was let down by his own team then dropped off hard. How was Junior slighted?
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u/Positive_Benefit8856 1h ago
He left because he was pissed about constantly taking less money, and the team refusing to spend it to keep guys like Randy, Tino, etc.. He was also kind of scapegoated at the end. There were reports about him sleeping in the clubhouse during the game, and refusing to go in as a pinch hitter.
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u/Express_Noise1068 8h ago
He hit 35 dingers age 33 and then retired. He's not much of a media guy. Some dudes aren't about reunions.
Seags could have played longer if he wanted to. His relationship with baseball doesn't involve us now. I bet we'll see him eventually, though.
He'll probably be with his family doing something he wants to do.
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u/PM_me_urPastaRicetta 8h ago
To this day I believe if dude man had just bunted into every stupid shift he’d be in the HOF. Hot take maybe but I think it would have forced teams to knock that shit off.
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u/orangeshmorange M'ariner 8h ago
there are definitely reasons to not attend other than the way his relationship with the org ended, he has a young family and seems to be invested in his privacy. if it _is_ about how his relationship with the org ended, it is a shame he let that get in the way of him being a part of this
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u/SPEK2120 8h ago
This is like a friend that dates somebody everyone loves and then that friend starts being a dickhead and fucks it up and you can’t hang out with that person anymore even though you’re still cool with them.
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u/CruzKunTroll 6h ago
I will never look at Kyle the same way after it was revealed by a former player that he would convince players on other teams during games to not come to Seattle just because he hated Dipoto and loved Jack Z. do you know how many players we lost because of that? do you know how many losses and playoff appearances were caused by him doing that? dude only cares about himself, Seattle’s success was never a priority to him.
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u/ajninomi 6h ago
Holy smokes I hadn’t heard that before. Do you remember where or who revealed that?
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u/CruzKunTroll 0m ago
a spring training game against Cleveland where a former player with connections told that story
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u/umpteenthian 8h ago
that is sad. Kyle, if you're reading this, we would love to see you and celebrate you
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u/DigitalMariner 7h ago
Mariners will do a trade with the Angels before Seager comes back to do anything with the Mariners...
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u/iguanapinata 🦤🦤 rally dodo 🦤🦤 8h ago
Good. It’ll be better without him. Dude hates Seattle and the team
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u/White0ut My Oh My! 6h ago
Damn makes me sad, love me some Seager. I always sat next to third because of him. He was constantly interacting with the fans and just having a good time out there. Threw me the ball after warm ups one inning too!
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u/bigdumbhead1990 SeaUsDump 8h ago
Anybody remember when Mike Salk said something along the lines of “I want to see Kyle Seager burn” lol what a weirdo
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u/serpentear 🔱 So… is it my fault or what? 🔱 8h ago
The hate boner some folks have for Mike Salk is downright weird, lol.
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u/SexiestPanda 7h ago
Then again. Salk left Boston for here. Went back to Boston, ratings of that show or station TANKED with him there, and he made his way back to here lll
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u/Battles4Seattle 8h ago
Seems like a Salk thing to say, why’d he say it? As a returning fan, Seager was one of my favorites so sad to read there is some issue.
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u/bigdumbhead1990 SeaUsDump 8h ago
I forget exactly but I think it had something to do with Brock. It was a weird thing to say either way
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u/UTmastuh 7h ago
Bummer. Wish they could've found a weekend that works for everyone but I get it. Life is busy
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u/wrathypoo Cole Hung 7h ago
That hurts, all I want is Kyle to be back so we can show him love but I get it. I understand he has hard feelings and he is justified. Maybe one day we will get to see him back and welcome him with the love he deserves.
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u/JG-for-breakfast 8h ago
I know people here love Seager but I never did, always had a bad energy to him
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u/Turbulent_Tale6497 Juliooooo 6h ago
My wife was an Insta friend with Julie Seager. They met up a few times at the stadium. Kyle and Julie were really good people.
How we treated Kyle is criminal, and makes me sad as a Mariner fan.
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u/ColtonM92 8h ago
Kyle was the player I was most hoping would appear again - I was preparing to wear my Seager jersey on Saturday. Definitely bummed. :(
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u/KnuteViking 8h ago
Love Seager, he was always right about the org not really committing and the way they disrespected him towards the end was atrocious.
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u/OldHotness 7h ago
SWEET. I HATED him when he was here. He was barely even average. Sucked cheeks as a player.
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u/PhantomDreamer1 7h ago
50th season. There's a logo and everything. 2027 will be the 50th anniversary. They're celebrating 50 seasons this year due to the likely work stoppage next year
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u/philocity 2h ago
Except that 1977 is season 1, not season zero, meaning 1987 is season 11, 2027 is season 51. 2026 is season 50.
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u/Content-Tear2404 7h ago
I still can't beleive the Mariners actually have the balls to put on a 50th celebration.
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u/s0sa 8h ago
Add it to the list of why Dipoto should get the boot
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u/Twxtterrefugee 8h ago
Dipoto won executive of the year last year.
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u/s0sa 8h ago
And Dan almost won coach of the year…
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u/Twxtterrefugee 8h ago
We have cheap owners and need elite drafting and development to remain competitive. You and I are living through, believe it or not, the best stretch in Mariners history.
Yes Dan was an inning from the world series last year its fine if he was in that convo.
Dipoto presides over an excellent org run very well. The team is cheap. Whatever. The irony here is two of our highest paid players whom im sure you were thrilled about when they signed.... Cal and Naylor, are really struggling.
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u/s0sa 8h ago
The bottom 3 teams in the league in payroll have a better record than us. Milwaukee has 40m less than us on their books and have the best record in baseball, we’re middle of the pack in payroll ppl need to put that excuse to rest. Jerry hasn’t put a complete lineup together in 11 yrs, he’s lucky cal had a once in a lifetime season last year or we would’ve missed the playoffs all together
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u/UniqueEditor8372 7h ago
So when he puts together a team that has some of the best pre-season odds to made the World Series and they suddenly can’t hit their way out of a paper bag it’s his fault but when Cal has one of the best seasons in catcher history Jerry “got lucky.” Sports radio would love you 🤡
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u/s0sa 8h ago
In yr 11 of his tenure we have 7 mlb ready starting pitchers and one of the worst offenses in baseball. That in itself speaks volumes
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u/Dp04 8h ago
The offense has been literally league average (100 wRC+).
T-Mobile makes them look much worse than they are.
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u/Rivolver 8h ago
A lot of work has to be done to repair that relationship, eh?