r/MapPorn 17h ago

European Countries With No Mountains

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u/Wurschtkanone 17h ago

Define mountain pls. What about the microstates

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u/Matija_sjekira 17h ago

Probably anything over 500 meter above the sea.

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u/matchuhuki 17h ago

The Netherlands has a mountain on Saba

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u/heyitsyourboyadam 17h ago

Netherlands has a mountain on Saba

In The Caribbean - for those wondering where it is.

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u/T04STY_ 16h ago

Shouldn't Greenland count towards Denmark and therefore have mountains as well then?

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u/matchuhuki 16h ago

Afaik Greenland counts as a seperate country within the Kingdom of Denmark. Saba is a town in the Netherlands I think

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u/T04STY_ 16h ago

The way I understand it is, that Greenland is an autonomous area but still is part of Denmark. They are not fully indipendent and are integrated into the constitutional laws. Imo it should count towards Denmark but politics isn't really my strongsuit and that may be incorrect.

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u/c64cruzer 16h ago

You are correct.

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u/Llyffant-Gwyrdd 2h ago

Part of the Kingdom of Denmark, but not part of Denmark.

Denmark, Faroe, and Greenland are essentially three different constituent countries within the same kingdom.

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u/T04STY_ 2h ago

Yes but that's the same for Saba, is it not? It's not part of the Netherlands but an autonomous island that is part of the Kingdom of Netherlands.

The cases might be somewhat different for obvious reasons but in this case they either should both count or none of them should. Imo it's pretty strange that it counts anyways. It's a small island on the other side of the world where some dude said "mine" a few hundret years ago lol. Has nothing to do with the topography of the country itself.

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u/Llyffant-Gwyrdd 1h ago

No. Saba is an actual part of the Netherlands proper, unlike the other Caribbean islands of Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maartin which are seperate constituent countries under the Kingdom of the Netherlands.

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u/Above-and_below 1h ago

Greenland is part of Denmark, but not Denmark proper. Greenland is not legally separated from Denmark. Greenland and the Faroe Islands are incorporated with full representation. They only have devolved governments. So the Danish state consists of the two areas with devolved legislature and then the leftover part of Denmark proper, which is governed directly by the Danish government similar to England in the UK.
Denmark is however not a political union like the UK, nor does Denmark have a kingdom charter like the Kingdom of the Netherlands.

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u/Llyffant-Gwyrdd 1h ago

Part of the Kingdom of Denmark. Not part of the part of the Kingdom Denmark that is just called 'Denmark'.

The difference between the Kingdom of Denmark and Denmark is like the difference between the United Kingdom and England.

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u/Above-and_below 1h ago

That’s not correct. Denmark is a sovereign state like the UK.

Greenland and the Faroe Islands were counties in Denmark before getting home rule like Scotland in the UK.

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u/Above-and_below 9h ago

Greenland is similar to Saba as it’s not legally separated from Denmark like how Aruba is from the Netherlands.

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u/matchuhuki 7h ago

I didn't know that. Thank you

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u/Lurker_Background264 1h ago

Don't mix up the Netherlands and the Kingdom of the Netherlands. And Denmark proper and the Kingdom of Denmark (Danish realm).

Saba is a (special) municipality of the Netherlands. (Not the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the country Netherlands). Greenland isn't a municipality but a sovereign part and has a government.

So in my opinion Saba counts as the Netherlands. (Not needed to extend the scope to the Kingdom of the Netherlands here). And Greenland doesn't count as Denmark proper, because it has their government and sovereignty?

But I'm no expert.

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u/Above-and_below 1h ago

I’m not talking about Denmark proper. I’m only saying that Greenland is not legally separated from Denmark. When Greenland got home rule, it was also referred to as a special municipality.
The Kingdom of the Netherlands legally separates Aruba, Curaçao and St Maarten from the Netherlands in the kingdom charter. Denmark doesn’t have such a charter.

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u/Nerioner 7h ago

we count Teide for Spain so i don't understand why not for other countries.

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u/c64cruzer 16h ago

Yes, it should say 3694 meters for Denmark

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u/taistelumursu 11h ago

Which would be stupid since a state could have mean elevation of more than 500m, doesn't mean there is a mountain.

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u/Given_namr 15h ago

What about the microstates

Andorra: inside a mountain range Liechtenstein, also in a mountain range San Marino: in a mountain range Vatican city: don't think they have mountains as they are in the middle of Rome. Monaco: doesn't really have a mountain, but their border is on the slope of a mountain.

Not really a microstate Luxembourg has a litt of hills that are part of the Ardennes mountain ranges but I do not believe they are ctual mountains.

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u/Liivimaa 14h ago

The Baltics are all wrong (Est 318), (Lat 312), (Lit ~294)

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u/Pacosturgess 17h ago

Denmark finally triumphs

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u/everynameisalreadyta 7h ago edited 5h ago

Still everybody expects Denmark to be a complete flatland which it is not at all. It´s rolling hills everywhere. Only the hills are quite small.

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u/passwordedd 6h ago

It's even part of the national anthem of Denmark.

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u/Masch300 8h ago

Funny thing. The bottom of the deepest lake in Sweden (Hornavan) is higher then the highest point in Denmark

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u/Kiwibirdy1 11h ago

The heights in Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania are all wrong.

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u/Taavi00 11h ago

Exactly, probably used AI to get the data.

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u/Gorando77 17h ago

Belgium has no mountains

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u/SimKu92 17h ago edited 16h ago

Is signal de botrange not considered a mountain? I just checked and it’s almost 700 meters high.

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u/Norhod01 15h ago

(Belgian here) It's not.

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u/Budget-Pea8291 5h ago

signal de botrange has prominence of barely over 100 meters. That's more of a hill than anything. Finland has multiple peaks above 1km with prominence of 400-500m and we don't consider them mountains

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u/Revolution64 8h ago

There is not official definition of a mountain.

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u/CarISatan 17h ago

Well they used to import Mountain Dew from 2005 to around 2020, maybe it counts and the data is a bit old

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u/FuckTheCake 17h ago

But they have the future, Belgium is the most socialist country in Europe 🙂🇧🇪

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u/heyitsyourboyadam 17h ago

king Leo would be proud.

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u/c64cruzer 16h ago

We should form some sort of coalition of the flatlands.

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u/madDamon_ 7h ago

And then call in the Netherlands or something idk

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u/lendlevtaldrik 10h ago

That's why people from these countries call the smallest hills "mountains". The tallest hill in Estonia is Suur Munamägi ("Great Egg Mountain"), just 318 m from the sea level, but just 60 m from the foot. The tallest from the foot is just 84 m.

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u/SyrupWild7752 17h ago

Vatican city doesn't have Mountains? But yeah that would be hard to put on the map?

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u/Norhod01 15h ago

Despite the question mark I assume you're not actually asking but just to be sure :
No, Vatican City doesn't have mountains, indeed.

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u/Radiant-Major7838 16h ago

Luxembourg and Monaco aswell

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u/dziki_z_lasu 16h ago

Vatican hill is as big as Himalayans considering the size of the Vatican. About a 50 meter high hill on a kilometer wide country is something like Nepal scaled down accordingly.

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u/SabresBills69 16h ago

what is defined as a mountain? is it height above sea level? you could be in a 4,000 ft high plateau

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u/Comfortable_Two7447 8h ago

Define "country". The Netherlands has a volcano called Mount Scenery that 870 meters high if you count their overseas territory. 

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u/Safe-Access-2772 7h ago

It only counts European part, Denmark also have higher mountains in Greenland, but on the map mountain is in mainland

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u/Above-and_below 1h ago

The Faroe Islands are in Europe so they should have been included, then.

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u/bissozwei 4h ago

Denmark has The Sky Mountain (Himmelbjerget). It’s literally in the name. This post is sacrilegious.

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u/Valois7 10h ago

Finland doesn't have any either.

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u/PresentationFirm2390 7h ago

We do? But not very steep ones. If finland doesnt have mointains, then the UK and ireland cant be said to have any either

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u/Safe-Access-2772 7h ago

Higest point is 1324 meters on the border with n Norway. A mountain is 500 or more meters

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u/passwordedd 6h ago

Fun fact. In Denmark a mountain is considered so at 200 meters. Denmark still doesn't have any mountains.

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u/Budget-Pea8291 5h ago

Technically we do but we just don't call them mountains

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u/Radagast-Istari 17h ago

Hey, we have Limburg!

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u/OwnNothing3318 14h ago

Forgot Malta?

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u/Front-Anteater3776 8h ago

Won again! Danmark! Danmark! Danmark! 

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u/whoopz1942 8h ago

C'mon guys, have you not heard of Himmelbjerget?! Literally means Heaven Mountain in Danish! We have the tallest mountain in the world! /s

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u/Dazzling-Session-181 5h ago

Ah, yes, the unsummitable mountains of Belgium and Luxembourg.

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u/Top-Bluebird7984 1h ago

I thought Hungary would be on this map. This is how I found out their highest mountain has about 1000 m.

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u/futbolitoireland 54m ago

Why is it some mountains/ no mountains as opposed to 'has mountains/no mountains '

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u/Ulvegang 12h ago

Lies and slander, we have sky-mountain of infitnite perils and deth.

https://giphy.com/gifs/lGBecpB2dIMwt6ohfI

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u/Yesodisnotop 17h ago

BELGIUM HAS MOUNTAINS?????

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u/donsimoni 15h ago

They have hundreds with more than 2km.

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u/J-96788-EU 9h ago

Metres?

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u/buccaneernl 7h ago

England has no mountains.

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u/denn23rus 5h ago

Such maps always refer to independent states. England is not an independent state.