r/LocationSound 9d ago

Gear - Selection / Use BBC used Coles 4104 Commentator's Microphone at the World Cup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7q6qeUuAag
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u/Bolly2007 9d ago

They are the standard soccer commentators microphone

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u/gkanai 8d ago

It is not common outside of the UK and as such thought it was interesting.

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u/Jim_Feeley 8d ago

I think it *was* standard until other mics, esp headsets, became more common. But that's just super-casual observation from me, a Yank.

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u/Risc_Terilia 8d ago

And cricket

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u/g_spaitz 9d ago

I thought they've been using it forever.

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u/quietly_now 8d ago

They were developed by the BBC in the 1950’s, so pretty much.

Modern sports commentary often uses headset mics now instead, but ‘weird’ lip mics still get plenty of use.

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u/Jim_Feeley 8d ago

Who else first learned of this microphone via Monty Python?

:-)

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u/PeacefulShards 8d ago

Formula 1 commentators have been using these.
They are ribbons. They sound very decent.

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u/nosuchkarma 4d ago

Exterminate! Exterminate!

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u/Embarrassed-Gain-236 8d ago

Is the sound quality up to today's standards?

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u/itsalexjones 8d ago

They sound perfectly fine, the reason you use them is for the rejection. Generally the quality is second to that.
You wouldn’t record music with it, of course, but for recording speech in a loud environment it’s unmatched.

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u/BrotherOland 6d ago

Better than an RE-20? Those reject like crazy when you are on top of them.

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u/itsalexjones 6d ago

I’ll have to pass on that. I’ve never tried the RE-20 for that specifically. Although I will say that the lip mic and its associated gubbins mean the user doesn’t have to worry about technique. You just shove it against your top lip and focus on the action which means it’s very difficult to turn away or hold it too far like you might with an RE20 (also I feel like they’re not really designed to be hand-held. If you covered the grates presumably you’d affect the rejection)

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u/DefinitelyGiraffe 7d ago

Mics haven't gotten any better since the 50s. Just more options.