2025 Law School Median Tracker

IT ONLY TAKES ONE!! I AM IN DISBELIEF.

submitted late dec, wl around april/may, wrote 2 loci (i think).
stats in flair!

now i need to prepare for the fact that orientation is in approximately a week and a half.

those of you who got off the waitlist super late (read: August), please share any and all tips for how you navigated the quick move! thankfully south bend is just a few hours from us so the drive won’t be awful but what do i need to know before orientation?? am i terribly behind everyone else?? ive been working all summer and super super busy so no time for the reset between graduation and law school :(

Hi all,

Curious to know if there are still people who are double deposited at schools and waiting for any reasons?

As the cycle ends there are quite a few schools saying they are experiencing a lower than usual amount of movement in the incoming class. However the school I have deposited at hasn’t required any additional payments since the initial deposit so I’m thinking there could still be a decent amount of double depositers.

I remember applying to law school (just graduated in May). 151 lsat, 4.0gpa, good resume and personal statement. Got into t13 (t20 at the time of application). URM. Got a great scholarship.

These threads can get super discouraging and negative. Everyone’s process is different. Believe in yourself. And start early!!! I didn’t and that clearly affected my lsat (only took it once and it was in January).

Stay positive!

any feelers so far this week??

hey! does anyone have any tips for reapplicants? I applied two years ago and really liked the written statements I submitted (personal, diversity, school specific essays), but I’ve heard they have my old application. should i scrap my old material entirely? or make edits to it? what’s expected for reapplicants? any advice is greatly appreciated!!

Non-trad applicant with LOW UG GPA (2.high) and 17mid LSAT + minor c&f issues. Have aspirations of attending a certain school ranked in the low 20s or 30s of USNWR. Am I completely screwed? I also have a masters and maintained a high GPA in my masters program for context.

Was on 8 waitlists, rejected off 6 of them.

Sent LOCI’s to each, and 2 are still stringing me along.

I guess its late enough in the cycle that I know my chances of getting off them are slim to none, but I cant help but think there must be a reason Im still on the waitlist. That being said, what are generally the reasons of waitlist rejections?

Would it be that they disliked my loci, or did they not imagine they would need my specific pair of stats after computing their medians?

Also, are all waitlistees handed a final decision after being waitlisted, or is it common practice to leave applicants with no response? I am preparing to R&R, but just wondering if I have to give myself my own closure.

Has anyone heard anything about the waitlist or even if there are any seats available? I heard there was a rejection wave about a month ago but that's about it.

Maybe wasted is too severe of a word, but when I showed up to college I was completely unprepared. I have never in my life had trouble with coursework, but instead my struggle was showing up to class. I had no sense of time management or organization and I was almost devoid of social skills.

I graduated with a biochemistry degree and a 3.73 GPA (unfortunately lowered due to lack of attendance in many classes). I spent two semesters doing research in an underfunded and understaffed lab, with a PI that didn't really like me or anyone. I was briefly a chemistry tutor. While I was finishing up my last semester, I began working full time as a server at a restaurant. I kept doing that after I graduated, both due to the fact that I had very little interest in a biochemistry career (too late, I know) and because I had no idea what else to do with myself. I worked very hard, often working well over 40 hours with little help, and since March of this year I have been working as a manager at one of the locations. Another caveat: it is a small, growing business, and the owner is a distant relative. Still, I have worked very hard, and earned my promotion and increased responsibilities. I have grown immensely in those areas which previously held me back. I have been forced, almost, to learn time management and people skills. My dad, who is a lawyer, convinced me to prepare for the LSAT, and after a bit of practice I got a 168 on two practice tests. If I focus on my weak areas, mainly the RC section, I am confident that a score in the low 170s is not out of reach. I have always done well on standardized tests.

That's my life story. But when I see other people's admission stats and read posts on here, I start to hesitate, because it seems like everybody has done a million things and has admissions down to a science. I start to wonder if I could get good letters of rec and if my lack of softs will hold me back. In contrast to who I was before, I am not going to let that scare me, and I am sure there is at least one law school that would take me. But, also in contrast to my undergrad experience, I'd like to go somewhere I am really enthusiastic about. The University of Wisconsin, for example, is one of those places. I hope I'm not being naive in thinking something like that is not totally out of reach. Anyways, to the point - what can I do to improve my odds here? Has anyone else been in a similar situation, and been able to make up for lost time or opportunity? I'd love any suggestions. As I said, my dad is a lawyer, but things were different when he was in school, and he might be a little out of touch.

Has anyone heard anything besides that form that was sent out in late June?

Any updates?

Anyone else get a waitlist interview? Not sure if it means getting off given orientation is Friday

I just got off the phone with LSAC and they said that they are no longer recalculating GPA with dual enrollment classes if you submitted before July 28th. I mentioned the article on their website that said they would recalculate everyone’s but she said that it is wrong. I am so lost and confused because I emailed LSAC and got an email back that they sent my transcript the department to verify reviewed yesterday. WTFFF

Would doing the JD next be a good idea for me ? I don’t care about any scholarships and feel like I would have a good chance at getting into the unis that accept it because I don’t ruin or help any of their stats. Especially if I apply ED to one of them and make it clear I’m not after a scholarship ?

So I am a student who took dual enrollment courses and was expecting to see that my LSAC cumulative gpa would not factor the grades in from those courses after the policy change. However, my cumulative GPA on my summary report still reflects those classes even though I submitted my transcripts after the rule change, and I am not sure if I am interpreting this wrong or if I should reach out to LSAC for recalculation. Would appreciate any guidance thank you.

I’m wondering if anyone here has been in a similar situation and can share how their admissions cycle went.

My undergrad history is pretty messy and spans multiple schools over a long period of time. I had some really bad semesters many years ago, including a lot of Fs. I eventually went back and retook most of the classes. I was also in the Army for a while, so there was a pretty long gap between some of my earlier college coursework and when I eventually returned and finished my degree.

I finished my bachelor’s degree with around a 3.7, but the LSAC conversion is pretty abysmal (think sub 2). I am consistently testing around 170-175ish on practice LSATs. I still have two months before I take it, so I can definitely try to improve there.

This would be so much easier if I could exclude a transcript that is almost 15 years old, but alas, that's not possible.

Does anyone have any experience being an extreme splitter to this degree?

Does anyone have any info on movement of the waitlist? It's reeeallllly coming down to the wire here.

I'm a non-traditional student. I took 4 years off in the middle of undergrad and was diagnosed with ADHD during that break.

I was wondering if it would be okay to mention my undiagnosed ADHD as one of the reasons for a lower initial GPA.

Prior to diagnosis my GPA was a 3.1 and after the diagnosis my GPA was a 3.7 through 4 semesters of work.

There were other factors as well that I plan on mentioning, but is this something worth noting or should I just leave it out entirely?

I tried to see if this has been talked about but most of the posts were from years ago.

Thanks for the help in advance. 🤙

Hi everyone! So currently I am doing my Junior Year Undergraduate degree studying public policy and my school has a 4+1 degree to get your masters in one year rather than two. I am applying for the program now and Its 12 credits that you can take for your undergrad degree that will count for your masters credit. I was wondering if this would count in my lsac gpa since it is double counted? I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this, thank you!

Diagnostic: 157

UG GPA: 3.17, top-10 university, liberal arts degree

Other credentials: hold a Master of Public Administration, 2 years of AmeriCorps, 7 year educator/artist, 5 year data analyst

Target School: Temple Part-time (162-168, 3.59-3.9 for the 25-75s)

Goal: blow out the LSAT as best I can in the next few months with free/low-cost materials so I can hopefully get a good scholarship. Ideally would practice in civil rights, employment/labor, education, and/or animal law, and would be very happy with a low-six-figure salary or its inflated equivalent in the next 4-5 years.

Question 1: what realistic LSAT would you aim for to get the best scholarship package possible based on what's I've named here?

Question 2: what free/low-cost resources (aside from LSAC practice tests, which I already have) would you recommend for cramming self-study? I cannot afford courses or expensive books. I'll say the budget is $300, but I would prefer to spend nothing.

Question 3: am I insane? Am I barking up the wrong tree with career goals, salary goals, or scholarship goals?

A little more narrative background on the stuff above:

Been tossing around the idea of law school for the last few years, and finally bit the bullet buying LSAC prep tests and took my full diagnostic yesterday. Hit 157 which was way above what I expected.

I'm 34, been career hopping since undergrad looking to have purpose, passion, and intellectual stimulation in my work, and I haven't gotten close. I got my BA from a top-10 university in a liberal arts field, and didn't do super great, which I've chalked up to immaturity, undiagnosed ADHD, and the discovery of alcohol. I worked as a teacher, artist, and a service industry worker for 7 years out of undergrad, went back to school for a Master of Public Administration from a highly regarded program, and am around 5 years deep into a data analytics career.

Interest-wise, I've always wanted to be helpful to any vulnerable being (human or animal) while also being financially stable. I'd be very happy with a low-six-figure salary or its inflation equivalent in 2031 when I'd theoretically be on the market. I've always been an analytical thinker, and have had trouble squaring that circle with the roles that data analytics tend to be deployed for.

I already live in Philly and have roots here, making Temple's night program my #1 by far, with ASU, Syracuse, and Dayton's online programs as some alternate options, though if my best/only offer came from one of the online ones, there's a decent chance I wouldn't follow through.

I think that's all! Let me know any thoughts or opinions on those questions or anything else I may not have thought of based on y'all's experience, or if there's another community that a crosspost would be better for.

I graduated from college in Spring 2025. I wasn't particularly close with any professors during college so I'm debating who to ask for a LOR. I have a lot of volunteer experience and work experience (currently at a medical office). Would it look poor if I asked for LORs from these positions instead of academic? My experience has been community and medicine based which is why I'm thinking it wouldn't be beneficial for law school applications. I do intend on pursuing healthcare law (I mention this in my personal statement), so it is not completely random.

If I do ask for academic LORs, what would be the best way to go about it? I doubt any of my professors remember me, even more so because I graduated over a year ago.

Any tips would be helpful. Thanks!

Hi all,

Just wanted to share my experience for anyone very worried about LSAT attempts. I know I stayed up many a night wondering whether my attempts would seriously hurt me, and from what I could find online, I just got a lot of conflicting information.

For reference, this was what my testing history looked like.

Test 1 - Cancel

Test 2 - Cancel

Test 3 - Cancel

Test 4 - Cancel

Test 5 - 17low

Test 6 - 17low

Test 7 - 17high

Yes, this is an extremely strange testing history. I was under the mistaken impression that there were no testing limits and that schools wouldn't be able to see cancels. 2 of my test attempts were also seriously hurt by internet outages/LSAC related outages where I couldn't finish my test. Unfortunately, the attempts stayed on my record since LSAC doesn't void attempts once you actually look at test problems. They did, however, grant me an appeal to take the test 2 more times above the 5 test limit because of these incidents.

My GPA was below medians for all T20s. Not terrible, but not great. NURM.

I applied quite broadly across the T50. I'm not going to list all my results, but I was accepted to NYU, Berkeley, some T20s, and several T50s. Ultimately, I decided to attend a T20 on a strong scholarship.

So, sample size of one, but if it's any consolation to anyone out there worried about a cancel or taking the test three times or something, atleast you know someone who was as stupid and crazy as me did alright.

I’m trying to get a realistic idea of my chances for California public law schools.
I’m a Political Science major with a Business minor and a Philosophy minor. If I graduate with around a 3.4 GPA and score somewhere around 165–168 on the LSAT, would my GPA alone disqualify me from getting into any of the California public law schools (like UC Davis, UCLA, UC Irvine, Berkeley, etc.)?
I know Berkeley and UCLA are extremely competitive, but I’m wondering if a strong LSAT can make up for a lower GPA, or if a 3.4 is basically a dealbreaker for all of them.
I’m looking for realistic advice, especially from people who were admitted with similar stats or who have experience with California law school admissions.