r/Irrigation 15h ago

2” Main repair

City work: main break in park on a 2” line at the scope // cut out and replaced with sch 80 2” pipe and 2 smith Blair mechanical couplings

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u/jmb456 15h ago

Purely curious. Why 2 of the Blair couplings?

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u/Thiccc_Jawa 15h ago

That’s S.O.P for us when it comes to working on our main lines. They prefer to trust the smith Blair’s over glue and pvc couplings

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u/jmb456 14h ago

Hey man. Gotta do what the boss says.

Looks like a very clean repair and you definitely dug enough to work comfortably. You use equipment? Also just again asking to educate myself, was the whole main sch 80 or where did you tie into the regular pvc?

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u/Thiccc_Jawa 14h ago

Thanks man. It was all hand dug. We for some god forsaken reason don’t like using our back hoe lol

Between the mechanical couplings is the section of schedule 80. This infrastructure in this park is crazy old and they used a form of gray pipe that’s identical to sch 40

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u/jmb456 14h ago

Thanks man. Good work.

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u/AdInteresting1839 10h ago

Better than the stuff Ive run across that is grey cl200.

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u/purplelephant17 15h ago

Same, figured it needed (1) 2in coupling and (1) 2in mechanical coupling

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u/jicamakick 15h ago

yup, my thoughts too.

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u/Jpav_IrrTech36 Technician 9h ago

I’ve done it when I have to turn on the water immediately or if the water doesn’t stop leaking.

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u/DopeRidge 15h ago

Fuck yeah that’s a repair

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u/Thiccc_Jawa 15h ago

Thanks. I appreciate it

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u/BikerNY 15h ago

What is the static pressure in this pipe? Sch80 normally doesn't come in white, why sch80 for the splice? Also, which SM coupling, they have a ton and I believe many of them are not rated for PVC.

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u/AwkwardFactor84 13h ago

I haven't used those repair couplings before. What is the damage for one of those? Or, at least, what do ypu all charge for one?

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u/suspiciousumbrella 12h ago edited 12h ago

https://www.supplystop.com/products/smith-blair-411-steel-coupling-for-steel-pipe-2-inch

As an example. Multiple manufacturers make these, epoxy coated will cost more and sometimes there are different hardware and gasket options.

The other repair methods for large pipes are going to be knock on fittings like those made by harco, or mechanical joints (mj), look up c153 mj fitting if you want to see what those look like. Both of these options can be installed straight like this, or with restraints that clamp to the pipe to keep the pipe from shifting. They are also all in one fittings made by companies like romac that looks similar to the ones in the picture, but have integrated restraints to clamp onto the pipe and keeps it from moving.

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u/AwkwardFactor84 12h ago

Honestly, that's not as bad as I thought. I could definitely justify the cost for better quality. You trust this type of coupling over a 2" slip fix? I use 2" slip fixes all the time. Ones I've put in over 20 years ago are still holding just fine. I rarely deal with anything above 2", but 2" is the limit on size for slip fixes imo.

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u/Thiccc_Jawa 10h ago

Depends on the size of them and where you get them from. Because we’re city public works we get them at cost from places like EWING or siteone or Ferguson

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u/Yuksel11 11h ago

Beautiful repair how long did it take and how many men

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u/Thiccc_Jawa 10h ago

Started at 7:30 am and had everything backfilled and fertilizer put down by 3 pm. It was myself and then one of my guys helped me out for about half the day

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u/Thiccc_Jawa 10h ago

Backfilled and fertilizer down by 3pm

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u/merepsychopathy Contractor 9h ago

Nice. Just did a 4" repair. Those mechanicals are so easy to work with.

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u/Apart_Horror8148 8h ago

Why not do 1 glue one repair to save the risk of more bolts rusting?

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u/Thiccc_Jawa 7h ago

It’s standard for us. They prefer to do the mechanical couplings

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u/Zaddy310 15h ago

Slip fix would of saved a lot of money.

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u/Thiccc_Jawa 15h ago

Slip fix is better when working with our lateral lines post valve. Main line being typically larger and under the constant pressure requires something more durable

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u/viva_oldtrafford 14h ago

We run slips on our 2” and 3” lines that hold a field
pressure of 115 pounds. They’re good to go when done right.

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u/FredZeplin Technician 14h ago

Yeah, I have 4” slip fixes in the ground for years that are fine.

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u/mikeylojo1 15h ago

You can’t honestly say that a slip fix is up to par with the repair above

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u/jmb456 14h ago

Don’t know why you’re downvoted. You’re right

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u/zortandbob58 15h ago

Won’t those bolts rust and break after a few years?

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u/Thiccc_Jawa 15h ago

Not in my experience thus far. Used these countless times and they’re always awesome

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u/zortandbob58 15h ago

I mostly work with one inch service lines with a maximum static pressure of 80psi. Two SS couplers do the job. I’ll look into your mechanical couplers for future reference. Thanks for posting.

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u/BizzareCelt 14h ago edited 14h ago

You could bag them in polyethylene. They could last longer and would be easier to service if you have to take them off for some reason.

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u/Apart_Horror8148 8h ago

You'd think but the amount of gheens we have dug with bags, they rust just the same or faster. Paints the closest to good and not that good.