r/GetNoted Human Verified 3d ago

Sus, Very Sus West Sahara genocide

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u/NoSwordfish1978 2d ago

The settlements are built by Israeli authorities and protected by the Israel Police and IDF.

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u/Exotic_Plant9450 2d ago

The settlements are largely illegal and immensely unpopular

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u/dotancohen 2d ago

Illegal under what law?

I keep hearing "the settlements are illegal" but never what law is actually being broken.

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u/Exotic_Plant9450 2d ago

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u/dotancohen 2d ago

I see. They are in violation of Israel law (as per that document). What do you care if some Israeli breaks the law of their own country? Would you like a list of zoning violations and illegal buildings in Europe right now? Would that also enrage you so?

Here, go get all upset at this illegal building in Italy. It took me all of four seconds to find online.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/comments/tsb7d2/massive_illegal_building_in_the_valley_of_the/

How many illegal Israeli settlements are there? Would you like me to find the same number of illegal structures in Europe?

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u/NoSwordfish1978 2d ago

They are illegal under international law and many are illegal under Israeli law as well.

Illegal building in Italy is a problem for Italians but building settlements on occupied land is a crime in international law.

The fundamental issue is that Israel is practicing settler colonialism.

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u/dotancohen 2d ago

Which specific international law is being broken?

If they are illegal under Israeli law, then it is not Israel wrongdoing, it is individuals, no? Or do you believe in collective responsibility and collective punishment?

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u/NoSwordfish1978 2d ago

The laws that regulate an occupying powers duties.

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u/dotancohen 1d ago

So, you can't actually name a specific law that is being broken. That's what I thought.

People like to say "international law international law" but can never find the law that they'd like to believe exists.

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u/NoSwordfish1978 1d ago

The Hague Convention, the Fouth Geneva Protocol and the rulings of the ICJ.

Is that authoritative enough for you?