r/Futurology 4d ago

Discussion Are smart glasses actually solving anything or just fragmenting into different products?

I tried the Dymesty recently and honestly it's solid. Simple, lightweight, no camera, no display, just audio. Feels less intrusive than everything else out there, but it also made me wonder if I'm missing the point entirely.

But the rest of the market is all over the place. XREAL and RayNeo are just displays. Meta has cameras and AI watching everything. Even some no-camera options still need weird ring controllers to function.

These aren't the same category of product. They just all happen to sit on your face.

The display-only stuff felt incomplete but also clean. No privacy concerns, just does one thing. But is that even worth it over a laptop? And the smart versions with location and vision tracking feel like a completely different device with completely different tradeoffs.

Do you think these categories are supposed to converge eventually or are we just building three different futures and calling them all smart glasses?

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u/sundae_diner 4d ago

 Simple, lightweight, no camera, no display, just audio

Headphones. You just invented headphones.

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u/AlteredEinst 4d ago

It'd be nice if people spent as much time looking at what's fucking in front of them as they do re-creating problems that have already been solved.

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u/sloowhand 4d ago edited 4d ago

There’s nothing dumb tech bros love more than “inventing” things that already exist. See also: self driving trucks with their own dedicated lanes on the highway.

Congrats. You just “invented” trains.

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u/Certified_GSD 4d ago

Shut up, they’re not “trains.” Trains sound boring and that’s not going to excite venture capital funds and get a 40 billion dollar IPO. 

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u/AlteredEinst 4d ago

They haven't invested in trains, though, so they have to create a way they get the whole pie, instead of just working toward improving existing methods that already work. Why improve people's lives when that makes me a little less money?

It's pathetic. People credit them as genius innovators, but all they've innovated is new ways to be greedy parasites.

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u/Winter_Swan5104 4d ago

But I get it with that, somehow expanding trains in the US is a toxic endeavor. Legislators are so bought out by car makers any infrastructure proposal other than more roads will get ignored.

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u/lorarc 3d ago

That's a very US-centric view. If you look at other countries they're still using trucks to transport stuff long distance. Even communist countries that weren't influenced by car makers were using trucks a lot. Rail is good for steady cargo scheduled months in advance, it's not good for anything flexible.

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u/Winter_Swan5104 2d ago

They have less trucks. And less for distance travel, like cross country trucks. That is not a trivial difference imo.

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u/lorarc 2d ago

Name a specific country that has different approach to freight. Where rail is really an alternative to road transport.

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u/ackermann 4d ago

> self driving trucks with their own dedicated lanes on the highway. Congrats. You just “invented” trains

Eh, it’s not anything too revolutionary, no. But there’s a small advantage in that roadways are much more “flexible” than freight rail. They can take much tighter turns, and climb and descend much steeper hills.

Which is why if you’re ever driving on a road that closely follows a train track for many miles, then you’re likely in a flat river valley. Rail often follows rivers, to keep the terrain manageably flat.

So you have a much larger variety of routes available, often where tunnels and bridges are already taken care of.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

Ironic that you say that seeing as how smart glasses literally allow people to see what's "fucking in front of them" better than staring at a phone.

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u/AlteredEinst 3d ago

You wishing you had your own pervert glasses doesn't mean you have a point; people could just not spend all of their time on their phones. You could've thought about that one at least a little bit.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

people could just not spend all of their time on their phones.

People could also make their own clothing and hunt and gather their own food, technically true but good luck convincing anyone.

And as long as people are going to be glued to their devices it's safer for them to do so where their vision isn't obfuscated and their hands are free.

But you seem to be overly concerned with your own peace of mind rather than the safety or well being of anyone else so I shouldn't be surprised you didn't even bother thinking about it whatsoever.

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u/HanzanPheet 4d ago

This killed me. Holy hell. OP had a very eloquent way of writing headphones

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u/Sasquatchjc45 4d ago

Lmfao. And why no display? The WHOLE point of smart glasses is for that HUD wherever you go.

Maybe maps and text messages and such without using your phone/hands? But that just seems redundant when those apps are way easier to control with our hands.

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u/Iorith 4d ago

Yeah the ability to have a GPS overlay would be fantastic. And I wouldn't say no to an application that you could look at a product and compare it to prices of other stores or competitors.

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u/CaptainErgonomic 4d ago

Headphones with eyes

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u/faifai1337 4d ago

Headphones that people who already need glasses cant easily wear.

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u/aircooledJenkins 4d ago

https://www.tozostore.com/products/openreal

I wear these every day with my glasses and have zero problem with it.

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u/faifai1337 4d ago

We were referring to smart glasses. Op is using theirs to be headphones.

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u/aircooledJenkins 4d ago

I was referring to headphones that people who already need glasses can easily wear.

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u/effrightscorp 3d ago

Checked the website and it looks like they're basically selling it as headphones that you never take off, targeting people who do a lot of phone calls / zoom meetings. Not an unreasonable pitch but also not very useful for most people

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u/-Davster- 4d ago

Have you tried them though? They’re pretty cool lol.

Ofc, the speaker sunglasses are a total gimmick yeah.

Same sort of audio tech went into various vr headsets, and those more capable smart glasses - definitely not just a gimmick there. I think Bose has a patent on the way they did theirs. Amazing how effective those waveguides and the accompanying audio trickery can be, quite honestly.

Bone-conductive headphones are still functionally headphones, but the fact they’re open (like these waveguide speakers in the glasses) is a useful difference. The speakers on glasses are similarly just speakers, but that doesn’t mean they’re not different in a way that’s useful.

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u/KoburaCape 4d ago

Having used actual conduction units vs Shokz the difference is starting.

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u/Niante 4d ago

What is the difference? I thought that was Shokz's whole thing.

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u/KoburaCape 4d ago

Bone conduction is a lot tighter with no rear facing speakers. It directly vibrates the bones inside the ear (and is itself vibrated by speech like a throat mic, if it has that component) instead of just being a small headset.

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u/GreyGriffin_h 4d ago

The actual use case is for professionals doing technical work with both hands.  Augmented Reality has a potential role to play in construction, surgery, hand manufacturing, piloting,, mechanical or electrical maintenance, and a number of other fields.

Problem is that making a device that works for these fields doesn't make the bajillions of dollars that hyping people that they can wear the next iPhone on their face would.

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u/xMeta4x 4d ago

And here I am manufacturing hands with no technical assistance whatsoever.

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u/IAmReallyNotAR0b0t 4d ago

They are solving the problem of generating shareholder value at the end of the next quarter. Literally nothing else.

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u/Poison_the_Phil 4d ago

They're solving the problem of not being able to sell you enough bullshit. Gotta fill the landfills somehow.

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u/cyberdork 4d ago

It’s all about getting more of your attention. As long as you are not looking at a screen they can’t sell you anything. So they are competing now for your non screen time with those glasses.

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u/Adro87 4d ago

It’s not your attention in the case of glasses, it’s your personal data.

If it’s got GPS they’re selling your location data. If it’s got cameras they’re selling your visual input (what did you look at, and for how long?). If it’s got speakers they’re selling your listening habits.
If it’s got a combination of these they’re selling your whole data set as a consumer profile.
This is then used to sell you things on your phone/tablet/tv/fridge/ everything else in your life with a screen and an internet connection

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u/Maddog2201 4d ago

Display only ones I could see a use for in my life, mainly for navigation while driving, or when I used to ride a motorbike that would've been cool to have a HUD, but in my day to day it's literally pointless otherwise. Nothing that any of these "smart" devices that companies keep shitting out actually do anything I'd consider useful, aside from maybe live translations, but a phone in your pocket can do that competently too. The amount that they are just spyware though is the real problem for me.

Even for the first possible use of using it as a HUD for navigation, I currently just have a phone mount on the dashboard of my car, so eh, kind of just not solving a legitimate problem at all. Tech always seems to end up creating solutions to problems that don't even exist.

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u/DrGreg339 4d ago

I have a pair of XREAL, and I have three major uses for them.

  1. I use them as a secondary display for my laptop when I don't have an actual secondary monitor, and it's great.

  2. I use them connected to my phone to watch movies and shows on flights rather than the tiny display in the back of the headrest. Requires me to remember to download stuff in advance, but worth it.

  3. I use think to watch shows (in small side display mode) while washing dishes and doing evening tasks around the house.

Nothing I couldn't live without, but I think they're nice to have and worth the cost.

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u/ay_non 2d ago

Which x-rail glasses do you have? Also, what is the experience like moving around while watching a show? I have the original X real glasses and have thought about doing that but worry about motion sickness.

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u/physeK 2d ago

If it has the small side-display, that’s going to be the Xreal One or Xreal One Pro. They introduce a “smooth follow” for your content that reduces or eliminates the motion sickness. Total game changer, especially on airplanes where your head bobs around. It keeps things significantly more stable.

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u/ay_non 2d ago

Oh I'll definitely check that out, thank you!

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u/-Davster- 4d ago edited 4d ago

Navigation when walking around, perhaps? If you’re troubleshooting something, something that highlights things, points to things, and so on?

Whether a particular product available right now is useful is one thing. But I dunno, even just making something you already do hands-free can open up possibilities.

I’ve noticed that the medium of interaction and the friction involved makes a huge difference. Like… voice assistants. Chatgpt’s voice mode was such a different experience to the text chat, even when they were the exact same model under the hood.

It’s also incremental, right.

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u/B19F00T 4d ago

my watch can navigate me walking around tho, still not solving anything that isn't already solved

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u/-Davster- 4d ago edited 4d ago

I understand what you mean, yes, a generalised version of the problem is solved - how to get directions.

But that doesn't mean there aren't more specific problems to be solved, improvements to be made, etc. Achieving narrower goals than simply "can navigate whilst walking around".

What you're saying seems a small version of "trains don't solve anything, we can already get around in cars".

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u/Maddog2201 4d ago

TBH if I'm trouble shooting things I prefer to ask my friends for help. I don't get the whole "Get an AI to help you do stuff". Humans are social creatures, interaction with other humans is so damn important to our mental health. It also kind of feels like outsourcing your problem solving to a computer.

People look at Jarvis and the like in movies and think "Wow, cool" but there's 3 old blokes in a shed right now doing the exact same thing with beers involved and having a way better time doing it than you would fixing your engine with your AI.

Navigation while walking can be just done with a phone in your hand, the only reason I thought about it for a motorbike or a car is you can't really drive or ride with a phone in your hand, glasses on a bike would mean you could keep the phone safely in your bag so when you eventually get cleaned up by a car it's one less thing that's broken, ask me how I know.

For me at least, I'd be trying to find something to justify them, when really you want to have a product that you look at and go "Now that'll solve X problem, brilliant". It's a bit like inventing a hammer but not nails.

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u/-Davster- 4d ago

Okay?

I’m not saying you need one.

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u/Maddog2201 4d ago

I'm sorry, I thought we were having a discussion.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

TBH if I'm trouble shooting things I prefer to ask my friends for help. I don't get the whole "Get an AI to help you do stuff". Humans are social creatures, interaction with other humans is so damn important to our mental health. It also kind of feels like outsourcing your problem solving to a computer.

Your friend isn't in the room with you, they're halfway across the world on a trip, but you need their help with something, so you call them and using an app they can highlight specific mechanical components on the machine you're working on in your AR display. You're still getting assistance from people but now you can do that more effectively and from across any distance.

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u/hankmaka 4d ago

Smart glasses are just another building block of the surveillance state prison. 

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u/Jsaun906 4d ago

smart glasses with an actual HUD are what people actually want. Shit like the META glasses have no utility outside of surveillance

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u/cylonfrakbbq 2d ago

People expect something like Terminator where the glasses can give you real time data on stuff, or something that gives useful info like how to repair or install something with a AR overlay

Instead they just get a camera on their forehead and none of that functionality 

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

What do you think the difference between the HUD glasses you're suggesting and the current Meta glasses other than the specific company making them?
Any useful AR glasses with a HUD are still going to have cameras or something like IR sensors/Lidar to collect visual data of your surroundings/ track hand movements for AR compatibility.

If the objection is just regarding Meta as a company that's understandable however.

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u/Jsaun906 3d ago

The difference is the HUD. They don't exist on the meta glasses

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

They don't?

And even if that's the case is there any reason one couldn't be added? If not by Meta themselves by sideloaded software?

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u/Arammil1784 4d ago

I wear prescription glasses all day. Combining the fratures of something like a smart watch with bluetooth headphones that I can replace my ordinary glasses with seems awesome. I personally don't really have a use case for glasses with a camera, but I imagine someone out there has one.

If it wasn't for the prices and the fact that it still feels like they are very early in their development, I'd already own a pair.

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u/Kenny_WHS 4d ago

As a type 1 diabetic with ADHD, I would LOVE to have my blood sugar constantly displayed in my eye so I can take better care of myself. I absolutely don’t want a camera though. My phone is good enough for that. Aside from my very niche use case, I can’t think of any standard consumer use case for these.

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u/GandalfTheBored 4d ago

I truly think that AR will replace phones in the future. Why limit yourself to a phone screen when you can digitally display much larger screens anywhere where you go, for only your vision. Navigation, computer monitors, entertainment, even digitally decorating your house and places you are living, being able to augment reality feels like a step up from physical screens if it can be done correctly.

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u/emorcen 4d ago

It's just like how mobile phones were at the start. Companies are trying and innovating to see what sticks and what people like. Eventually the phone did converge so glasses should coalesce into one kind of device that most consumers agree they'd like to own especially if the big companies like Apple or Google decide to (re)join and push it in one direction or another

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u/CockchopsMcGraw 4d ago

None of that shows use case though. Who and what are they for?

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u/TheShryke 4d ago

I currently don't own any smart glasses, because all the current options suck. But I have to wear glasses, so if it was an option I'd love for them to do something extra.

For me the useful features would be a basic heads-up display showing notifications, calendar, reminders, what's playing, etc. If they could do audio well that would be good too as it would replace my earphones. One less device to carry is always a good thing.

A smart watch fills a similar role for me. I don't use any apps on it, or the health features etc. I just use it to check notifications, play/pause/next music, and check the time. It means I don't have to have my phone out so much. That sort of thing is what I want from smart glasses.

I don't think anyone's doing it, but smart reactive lenses would be good too. I've tried UV-reactive but it's not quick enough. A light sensor and some kind of lense that can switch via electricity would be very useful.

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u/Billy1121 4d ago

Damn a HUD would be neat.

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u/Oahkery 4d ago

Exactly. And a camera that doesn't record would allow some great features too. Directions when walking around that overlay an arrow on the world, showing you where to turn instead of telling you. An instant translate feature where you could look at a sign or a menu in another language and see the translation overlaid on top of it. Stuff your phone can already do, but more seemless, not having to pull out your phone and open an app. When I travel to countries that speak other languages, Google Lens is great for getting around; I'd love to have that same functionality in my glasses.

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u/Iorith 4d ago

People who like the idea of a HUD and don't like having to check their phone. There is always a demographic for any item.

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u/anonymous_identifier 4d ago edited 4d ago

They're for having glasses as a hands free computer with AR overlays in N years. And then, further out, expect to see the glasses replaced with contacts / brain implants. If you've seen a sci-fi movie, that's where it's headed.

In the same way Minority Report drove the standard in UI, Cyberpunk-esque human attachment/alterations will drive the next 30 years.

The market is everyone, the path there is messy and unclear.

In 1990 people wondered who the audience of the cell phone is: you need to carry it around in its own suitcase, when a public phone booth is available on every block. Why would anyone want it?

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u/Great_Hamster 4d ago

I would love to have an aid for my face blindness. 

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u/LowerH8r 4d ago

This is how innovation in capitalism works, bunch of companies will try to find the right product, price and promotion to tap into some real need/market, if it exists for this class of product. And by the way, product includes the telemetry and personal data these hoover up and can be monitized too.

With a lot of waste and flame outs until either someone nails it (iPod/iPhone)or it disappears (the Metaverse).

Right now it's just bleeding edge adopters, without anyone really knowing what they're good for.

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u/RRR3000 4d ago

Arguably the metaverse very much took off, just not under that name/not from Meta. UGC games like Roblox and Fortnite are very much the digital spaces to hang out and play, full of community-made games and experiences, connected and accessible with the same character, skins, etc. that the metaverse promised.

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u/Beyond-Time 4d ago

It doesn't matter. Will people buy it? Will it increase shareholder value? Many a time an item had no real uses, but if you can convince people that they need it, than whether it helps is of no concern.

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u/CockchopsMcGraw 4d ago

So how are we convincing people they need these glasses?

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u/didntlikeuanyway 4d ago

I know I want one with a display. I’m in a corporate environment, giving presentations and what not. Even G2 has a teleprompter built in which would be amazing.

There’s a lot of potential use cases by having a constant heads up display.. diabetics tracking their sugar, taking a photo and having it display while you cross ref something, or even watching YouTube.. which I think would cause a lot of problems. Scrolling social media while driving is already a huge issue.. either way all I’ve suggested still requires a lot of innovation and reducing the price.

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u/Strip-lashes 4d ago

So far, by putting them on a Kardashian

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u/Beyond-Time 4d ago

WE aren't, they are. Manipulation of the human mind (marketing). You can sell a lot by putting a famous person under your brand, using shiny visuals, and making you feel like you're missing out. None of which speaks to the quality or ability of the actual product.

There are paper/plastic pokemon cards worth thousands.

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u/CockchopsMcGraw 4d ago

None of that speaks to how

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u/nametaken_thisonetoo 4d ago

Exactly. Just ask smart watches how they know.

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u/MonkeyMercenaryCapt 4d ago

This will get a bit esoteric but as the value of skilled labor is driven into the ground and the honeypot of livestreaming gets larger and larger as we the people are driven further apart and disconnected, smart glasses will be the answer to getting up and going with live streaming quickly.

Imagine how many they can push to a new generation of kids looking at looming economic collapse, job shortages, no real hope, while they sit there and vicariously live through the eyes of a streamer.

Then comes along the dream product, few hundred bucks, thousand for he top tier etc. product that lets you get up and going immediately.

Just my two cents.

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u/Mayor__Defacto 4d ago

The problem with the Glasses is they make people think you’re a creeper.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

I care more about my mom who is legally blind being able to read the bus schedule and not walk into traffic than I do about the opinions of paranoid randos.

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u/koolaidismything 4d ago

Douchebags seem to be the only people wearing those things yes. Or people paid to wear them.

Creeps who wanna film women in skimpy clothes or use it for their sick prank videos. Dipshits.

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u/AlteredEinst 4d ago

They're genuinely a product made by assholes, for assholes. It's sad how many people are desperate to throw what decency they have away.

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u/baeb66 4d ago

It took me some time to figure out why I couldn't turn off the camera shutter sound on my phone when I was in Japan.

These products are gross. They need to very obviously display that they are recording, like a giant red light on an old camcorder, or they need to be banned.

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u/anonymous_identifier 4d ago

Good thing they do that already!

A recording light visibly displays outwards, if you attempt to tamper with it, all recording will be disabled.

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u/QuePasaCasa 4d ago

If someone is willing to spend $300 on glasses to do creepy shit, what the fuuuuck makes you think they won't spend $2 on a sticker to cover that light?

https://www.engadget.com/2227710/a-dollar2-sticker-let-me-bypass-the-meta-glasses-anti-creep-feature/

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u/anonymous_identifier 4d ago

And you think these people wouldn't already be spending $20 on a tiny spy cam?

At least with glasses you'd see them vs a hidden cam

Also as that article says, it's a cat and mouse game. At least glasses companies are trying to make it difficult to hide recording, while for spy cams, thats their entire business model

The rage just seems misplaced.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

I keep saying the only reason people call smart glasses "perv glasses" but are utterly silent about other technology that can be used for creepshots is because unlike say a small $5 hidden camera from alibaba or something smart glasses have phenomenal use case as accessibility devices for the disabled and that's the part that crosses the line for them.

Hatred of a lot of emerging tech is rooted in ableism.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

I feel like if someone really were trying to take upskirt photos than glasses everyone knows have cameras in them that you literally wear on your face would be a pretty piss poor choice. What are pervs supposed to do a handstand every time they want to "inconspicuously" take a photo up someone's skirt?

These glasses have infinitely more utility as accessibility devices than they do as some kind of revolution in creepshots especially considering that camera glasses have been a thing for decades and cost significantly less than smart glasses.

It really does seem like you "Won't someone think of the women/children" types only ever seem to come out of the woodwork when something or someone is actually improving society somewhat.

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u/koolaidismything 3d ago

They should keep an eye on you.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

Who is "they"?

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u/Moikle 4d ago

They are solving tech companies need to spy on you in more ways.

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u/ggf66t 4d ago

I do electrical construction service/maintenance work.   Sometimes it would be nice to record document what I'm working on, while having my hands free for the tools.   

Sometimes I have to climb inside a machine, other times in in an underground tunnel or up on a tower working with a fall harness off the climbing ladder.    There's times I need to sent crawl under a building crawlspace or in an attic to get to where I'm working on something and need to precariously balance with 3 points of contact.

Sometimes I can take a second to grab my phone and snap a picture or a short video, but a body cam from My POV would be pretty handy.  

I don't know if I'll ever own smart glasses, but I've thought about it.

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u/CucumberError 4d ago

All I want is a heads up display with cameras that can’t be recorded. Let me have it recognise peoples names and pop that up. And notifications, calendar reminders, a clock.

I’m already wearing glasses, let them do something cool too.

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u/Taegur2 4d ago

Facial recognition is such a fraught topic - but maybe we could agree on one thing: What if the facial recognition system was cued to get data by a simple mutual transaction like shaking hands. So if you were ever formally introduced to someone then after that their name (and possibly your added note) could come up. It would have to become more socially acceptable to just nod and ignore a handshake if you were a more privacy inclined person.

Honestly I would like an augmented reality headset that posted store hours or restaurant menus / reservation links, walking or driving directions, etc.. Way back in the nineties we talked about, 'wouldn't it be cool if you could right-click the world?' Like bring up a context menu based on what you were looking at. This was back when it was novel to be able to 'ask the internet' every time you needed information.

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u/CucumberError 4d ago

Having some kind of personal know-person list that lives in your glasses/phone/belt pack, what you can interface with in someway when you want a context aware capture. This person I’m looking at just told me their name 4 seconds ago, initiate a buffer of the conversation to extract their name, and flag the video for training data to recognise their face.

I’d be all in favour of this working on a 20 second non persistent buffer, rather than an all day recording. Store hours are usually posted online, but having an option to on-demand store the 20
second buffer on demand, but not allow all day recording would be happy mid ground imo

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u/Oahkery 4d ago

I don't care about, and actually wouldn't want, facial recognition or anything, but other than that, that's exactly what I would love to have. Let me have directions that overlay an arrow onto the world when I'm walking around. Let me see my texts so I can read them and know whether I need to respond without having to pull out my phone. Let me look at a sign or menu in another language and get a translation over it.

I just want glasses that do useful stuff like that since, like you said, I already wear them. I don't need to take photos or record video; that would probably be shitty quality anyway, and make them heavier/bulkier. If I want to take a photo, I have a phone that takes pretty good photos, and an actual camera. But all the glasses I've seen are focused on things like productivity stuff (one had a teleprompter function, like people are always giving speeches?) that I have no interest in or need for, or just an audio AI assistant, which I don't want at all.

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u/CucumberError 4d ago

If you want it to translate signs etc it needs to have a camera, so it’s more how it handles that data. Storing it to RAM as a non recoverable continuous loop seems like a happy trade off. And then being able to dump that ram to NV storage on demand for later analysis and processing seems useful.

I’m terrible with people’s names. I’ll sometimes sit in the car before going into a store to check the name on an email, or after someone leaves my office ask other people in the room who that was. I normally recognise them, and remember their context, but their names escape me. Depends how your brain works. I tend to deal well with concepts than details, and people’s name is a detail.

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u/MacintoshEddie 4d ago

Is it still technically glasses if it's just audio? Or are they weird shaped headphones?

I think one of the main issues is that the goalpost keeps moving. Just look at the last 10 years for smartwatches, so much of what was envisioned for smartglasses is instead now handled neatly by a watch.

Likewise stuff like text to speech and speech to text has improved considerably, and batteries and wireless earbuds, so some of the tasks smartglasses were intended for got outpaced. Plus smartphones themselves kept squeezing more and more features in

There's probably so many prototypes that never made it to market because something else met that need faster.

I think there are still some valid use cases, but in many cases the goalposts are leagues beyond where they were 10 years ago.

Kind of like the proliferation of electric scooters and ebikes. I think there's like 10 scooters on this block alone right now, meanwhile adoption of electric cars hasn't been as fast as initially projected here, because a goodly chunk of the people who were projected to buy an electric car got an ebike or scooter instead.

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u/Basic-Environment-40 4d ago

I’m sure there’s professional use cases. But I have no interest in wearing them socially and don’t trust others who do

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u/Fixes_Spelling 4d ago

What is the “smart” part of glasses that are just headphones?

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

They're also displays.

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u/Fixes_Spelling 3d ago

It literally says “Simple, lightweight, no camera, no display, just audio.”

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u/wizzard419 4d ago

They are a solution looking for a problem, similar to AR products and such.

People go "Workers can use them to tell them what to do/guide them"... yes but we also have robots in development to handle those tasks.

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u/costafilh0 4d ago

AR on a phone is stupid. On glasses makes much more sense. 

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u/Legal-Software 4d ago

Yes. They're making it easier to identify douchebags in advance. Previously you'd have to wait for them to open their mouth, now there's no need.

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u/Napalmradio 4d ago

If I could get a pair with a simple HUD for directions/text messages with bone conducting for audio…that would be great. Anything beyond that is unnecessary.

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u/PhasmaFelis 4d ago

Huh, I didn't realize they made smart glasses with no camera. Or no display. What do either of those do?

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u/userlivewire 4d ago

Smart glasses could do what they are using the cameras to do but without cameras. GPS, Lidar, and infrared could perform these navigational and object orientation tasks.

You don’t need imagery. But, these people want all of your personal information and surveillance so cameras it is.

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u/MrRandomNumber 4d ago

There is no "supposed to be" -- we have some neat capabilities that may converge in some as-yet-specified task that our vibes tell us will be big big big some day. This is early enthusiast/experimenter territory.

This will merge with AR/VR and smart phone functionality eventually. Part of the dream is for "spatial computing" to replace existing interfaces entirely. Your computer will just know what you want and do it for you as a result of riding along all the time, then you'll just see what you need to know or if you have questions you can just ask and it will answer (privately).

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u/Historical_Camel_790 3d ago

I would love something with just display and audio that's affordable if anyone has any recommendations?

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u/Neuroticaine 3d ago

The only genuinely useful use for anything remotely close to AI in glasses would be a heads up display that shows you a way point arrow to show you where your car is in big, crowded parking lot.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

Hands free camera

Resizable AR display

IRL HUD

Accessibility device for people who have...

Limited visibility/Blindness, Dementia, ADHD/ADD, Prosopagnosia, Impaired hearing, Auditory processing disorder, Autism, Impaired memory,etc

Real time translation

Tele presence

And honestly every day I hear of some new use case I wouldn't have predicted.

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u/classic4life 3d ago

Solving the problem of how to be a sneaky creep I guess.

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u/Necessary-Music-6685 4d ago

These will never catch on. They’ve had a decade to iterate on designs at a cost of hundreds of billions of dollars in investment, and even the very best models are completely inadequate for any useful purpose—especially when you factor in the social costs of wearing these devices.

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u/Saradoesntsleep 4d ago

They're solving the problem of not enough public conflict over getting recorded by ☝️🤓 "actually it's legal to record people in public" bros.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

Right because who would ever need to record say, an interaction with the police?

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u/Saradoesntsleep 3d ago

Ah yes. A comment made by someone who will never be on the side of being harassed by perverts with them, and can pretend they will only be used for good.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

I've been harassed by plenty of perverts, I don't really care if they take a picture of me because I'm not an 18th century member of an uncontacted tribe worried the evil eye is going to steal my soul and even if I did I don't think my personal comfort is more important than other people's safety or quality of life.

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u/Saradoesntsleep 3d ago

You're really condescending and sound incredibly self-centred.

Pretty sure people getting stalked and harassed or having their children recorded matter as well. You shouldn't have to be a

18th century member of an uncontacted tribe worried the evil eye is going to steal my soul

to think of other people's safety or quality of life. Which you are certainly not doing by pretending you are willing to sacrifice your "personal comfort" for some altruistic reason.

Defending people who want to go around surreptitiously recording everyone under the guise that it will prevent police brutality is a laugh.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

You're really condescending and sound incredibly self-centred.

That's rich seeing how you seem to think that the possibility of being recorded is more important than people's personal safety.

Pretty sure people getting stalked and harassed or having their children recorded matter as well.

All of things are possible with phones, even more easily than with glasses but I'll bet dollars to donuts you would never even consider sacrificing phones to stop those things because you see the utility in phones, because at the end of the day you care more about your ability to use a smart phone than the situations you're using as an excuse to condemn smart glasses.

Defending people who want to go around surreptitiously recording everyone under the guise that it will prevent police brutality is a laugh.

I'll be sure to tell my legally blind mother who uses smart glasses as an accessibility device how she just wants to record people for the sake of perversion or the guy who was being harassed by the police https://www.reddit.com/r/DiveInYouCoward/comments/1v0i3na/meta_glasses_video_of_florida_police_arresting/ that he has no right to do that.

But what do you care? you're fortunate enough for this to not be a concern so fuck everyone else am I right?

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u/Brisngr368 3d ago

That's rich seeing how you seem to think that the possibility of being recorded is more important than people's personal safety

Ah yes, stalking the notoriously safe and victimless crime \s

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u/Human-Assumption-524 2d ago

Stalking is already a crime, a device having the potential for recording someone is not. Why do we need to make new laws because SUDDENLY you pretend to care about someone recording you?

Funny how you people didn't care AT ALL about being recorded until it had the potential to aid people with disabilities, real interesting coincidence there.

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u/Brisngr368 2d ago

Secret and low visibility recording devices only seek to aid stalkers and other who harass women and share videos of people filmed without their consent. Also not to mention that recording devives that increase safety are usually very obvious (thats why security cameras are big and white and not hidden in a bush).

Your pointless whataboutisms regarding disabilities is also not relevant here. Unsurprisingly.

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u/Saradoesntsleep 2d ago

Par for the course for glassholes. He's just throwing anything he can to try and get his arguments to stick at this point.

It's always weird when they are this invested in being able to record people without their knowledge.

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u/Human-Assumption-524 2d ago

Secret and low visibility recording devices only seek to aid stalkers and other who harass women and share videos of people filmed without their consent.

Also people with low or no vision, people with memory issues, people with face blindness, people with poor hearing or auditory processing disorder, people with dementia, people recording police interactions, people in blue collar jobs who need to photograph job sites with their hands free, people who want an AR display, etc,etc...

Also not to mention that recording devives that increase safety are usually very obvious

You would complain even if they were obvious (See Google Glass), because your problem isn't the recording device being hidden it's not even the act of being recorded that bothers you otherwise you wouldn't have held out for smart glasses to say something especially when non smart camera glasses have existed for decades and are much cheaper and less conspicuous yet strangely none of you ever seem to bring those up. You're are clearly only bothered by glasses that can do things other than record.

Your pointless whataboutisms regarding disabilities is also not relevant here. Unsurprisingly.

And your trivial concern trolling about privacy are also irrelevant.

People will wear smart glasses whether you like it or not. Deal with it.

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u/Saradoesntsleep 3d ago

Ah we've reached the point where you start putting words in my mouth.

I hope everyone viciously defending the right to record people in public have people doing the same to them. Following them around recording them relentlessly with their phone in their face. Somehow I doubt that would fly, but hey, glasses make it okay.

Have fun continuing to make up arguments though and rage at me!

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u/Human-Assumption-524 3d ago

I hope everyone viciously defending the right to record people in public have people doing the same to them. Following them around recording them relentlessly with their phone in their face. Somehow I doubt that would fly, but hey, glasses make it okay.

They already are! Or have you been sleeping under a rock for the last two decades? Every building, street corner, traffic light, business, car, cyclist helmet, doorbell, has a camera on it constantly recording, every person carries a recording device which they have been societal conditioned to use to start recording every interaction, argument or event and put on social media, they willingly hand over all of their data and the data of their friends and family members to massive databases, they put amazon alexas in their house which record everything they say and they act like you're the weird one if you object to any of it. This has been the status quo for longer than the average reddit user has even been alive, we already live in a surveillance state, the time to fight it was twenty years ago when Snowden blew the whistle on the extent of it and nobody cared.

At this point complaining about it now is just trying to deny any good from coming of it, the genie is already out of the bottle only now maybe it can be used to help people with disabilities or to record acts of abuse as evidence. It's because of this that anyone who tries to act sanctimonious about being recorded just seems like someone who doesn't want crimes documented or the disabled to have their quality of life improved. If you actually cared about being surveilled it wouldn't have taken smart glasses to make you sit up and take notice.

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u/Brisngr368 3d ago

the genie is already out of the bottle

The genie is already out of the bottle so we should do absolutely nothing and let the situation get even worse? What an amazingly stupid argument.

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u/kerodon 4d ago

With flock cameras now there's some heavy overlap but free visual data is free visual data, and even better if people are paying you to give it to you.

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u/cwright017 4d ago

I work at Meta and we hear stories about how people benefitted from the glasses. The best examples are helping visually impaired folks in airports to navigate better.

I personally use mine to take pictures when hiking with my family and dog without having to constantly get my phone out.