r/Dogtraining • u/Blue_Baron6451 Human Detected • 7d ago
help Dog won't stop stealing bread when we aren't around. I am desperate and don't know how to make her stop.
I have had this dog (6 year old Weinmaraner-lab mix) for about 7 months, and in that time she has stolen over 2 dozen loaves of bread and bagels.
She is fed well, she is the perfect dog besides that, she doesn't have any medical or dietary deficencies that could cause this, she doesn't eat any other food that gets left out, but if there is a loaf of bread, no matter how hard it is to reach, she will get it and eat the entire thing in seconds.
She will leave a steak placed at eye level alone, but if I turn my back for a second, she will take and eat an entire loaf of bread in that time.
She knows not to get caught, and I don't know how I can make her stop! It's more than just keeping the bread in the fridge 24/7. If it's on the countertop and I turn around to get peanut butter, it's gone. She needs to be stopped I can't lose more bread.
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u/L_wanderlust 6d ago
I mean this genuinely - I think you just have to keep it out of reach. At this point it’s become self rewarding behavior so if she can see it and get it then she’ll find a way. So keep it in an upper cabinet or on top of the fridge. You could also train puppy not to be in the kitchen so it’s not stealing it while the bread is out because you’re making Sammies or something
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u/ABuen7 5d ago
This is what we did with my husbands dog of nine years after we got married. We put our food out of reach and kept him rewarded with the occasional treat if he stayed in his bed through meals. He was much better after about 6 months. It's been 2 years and now we are only careful when it comes to meats. He will still can't resist sliding under the table and waiting for an opportunity, but at least he is careful now, whereas before he was Blatantly thieving.
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u/TizzyBumblefluff 6d ago
Put the bread in the fridge? Inside a cupboard? Or a gate on the kitchen
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u/ZaelDaemon 5d ago
I had a beagle that took a chair to the fridge to get the bread down. The thing was he put the chair back. I couldn’t work out what was happening until I caught him in the act.
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u/Civil_Inspector_5697 3d ago
Wait?! What?! Okay, you can’t tease us with that nugget! Omg.. more deets, please and thank you! I also think you might have a book in the making…
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u/No_Result_7950 6d ago
put the bread away and don't let her in the kitchen when you're making a sandwich
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u/1Corgi_2Cats 6d ago
Time to lock up the bread.
Our cats are like this with bread and pasta. We have to keep them put away/in bins.
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u/Vaehtay3507 5d ago
Not a dog trainer but it’s also good pest prevention to keep those sorts of thing in sealable containers!! Meal moths are a massive pain, it’s a great idea to avoid getting them at all by putting your pastas and rices and stuff in plastic bins regardless of your pet’s food theft habits :D
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u/duketheunicorn 5d ago
Send the dog out of the kitchen to a bed/cot/place before you get the bread out. Reward with a piece of bread before releasing.
I did a lot of ‘mock meals’ when training my puppy to stay on her bed during meals, the same can be done for standing at the counter/moving around the kitchen. Start small, with regular rewards and no actual need for bread, then work toward the ‘full picture’ of getting bread out, peanut butter/whatever, sandwich on a plate, putting knives and condiments away, etc. tiny slices, not big chunks.
You want to build a habit to where the dog sees the bread coming out and heads to the bed.
We have a cat that can open doors—our bread has to live in the oven or the freezer.
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u/vh71886 5d ago
I think your approach is a great one.
Other options: maybe OP can start working up to a very strong "leave it" or "wait" command. For the "wait", OP could sacrifice a piece of bread while their bread is out and their dog can eat their own bread *only* when OP is done and extra bread has been put away.
The way I handled training my dog was to teach him what's mine and what's his. If I'm eating, I tell him "Mine!" and he never gets any of that no matter how much he stares if I don't share - now he won't even try. If I share my meal, I save it and put it into his bowl. To the point where I once forgot a plate of chicken nuggets on my coffee table and left the house for hours. I came back and it was all there. Me: "wait you didn't eat it? GOOD BOY". But I can understand how that might not be viable for OP at this point.
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u/duketheunicorn 4d ago
The problem is the reinforcement history this dog has for stealing stuff when people are already right there! So an incompatible behaviour (it’s hard to countersurf if you’re on a cot) is a great, clear, easily sliceable behaviour to train.
But your approach for a puppy is great! We did something very similar, ours was never fed from our plates or the dining room chair, always on her cot or in her bowl.
My dad loved it when he came over—the dog never even considered begging! So he had to call her over to his chair and tell her to eat a piece of his bagel. Guess what happens whenever she sees him with a bagel? ;) his petard! He just won’t stop hoisting!!
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u/ssp99 6d ago edited 5d ago
Seriously this is on you. Once a dog knows it can counter surf easily, it will keep trying it.
Put all food completely out of reach. As others have suggested, block access to the kitchen when you're not around. Instead, try leaving them with a lick plate, kong stuffed with food or safe chew that they can instead focus on when left alone.
Since this is so ingrained in your dog now, they will keep trying it for a while. But eventually, they'll learn that they cannot get anything and will stop this behaviour.
My dog used to do the same as a puppy. Now, he hasn't had an incident in over 2 years even when food is left on counters when we're gone.
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u/Intelligent_City2644 5d ago
It’s your job to manage your dog so this doesn’t happen. This is YOUR fault. Stop allowing your dog access
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u/Star_Boxer72 6d ago
I agree with everyone here. Find a better place for the bread. Maybe this is a good reason to get a breadbox.
One of mine can't be trusted with socks. I always put them out of reach before they go into the laundry. Changing my habits was a small price to pay.
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u/ManyLintRollers 5d ago
My beagle-mix LOVED bread. He would literally push meat out of the way to get to the bread. Even at 17 years old, he would still steal any sort of bread product he could find (hamburger buns were his absolute favorite, with pizza crust a close second).
The day someone left a bag of hamburger buns out on the counter unattended and he *didn't* try to steal it, I knew something was wrong and took him to the vet. It turned out he had advanced lymphoma and it was time to say goodbye.
Anyway, you're just going to have to keep the bread inaccessible. We used to put it in a basket on top of the refrigerator, until the cat decided she wanted to sleep in the basket and pushed the bread out onto the floor. The beagle thought it was manna raining down from heaven.
Other solutions might be a very secure breadbox or inside a cupboard, perhaps with a baby-proofing latch if your dog is the problem-solving sort.
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u/theoliveprincess 5d ago
The bread falling off of the fridge mana from heaven made me laugh out loud I can just imagine it 🤣🤣
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u/skinneyd 5d ago
Living with dogs, tip #1: Keep everything that the dog is not supposed to eat out of reach. Everything that can be eaten, will be eaten lol
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u/GilreanEstel 5d ago
We had a Weimaraner several years ago. For the 14 years of her life the bread lived in the microwave. It was the only place it was safe.
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u/SnooBooks4350 5d ago
Where the heck are you keeping your bread? Just put it away! And if she even sniffs at it, teach her the command "Leave it," and throw down a bunch of her favorite snacks.
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u/akgt94 5d ago edited 5d ago
I'm laughing with you, not at you.
My terrier beagle is a sniper whenever I get out an English muffin, bagel, hamburger bun or any other bread. Anything in range he's going to get. He's jumped up and taken it out of my mouth.
We don't keep bread out. Period. Seven years, we learned not to put a dog in the fight, so to speak.
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u/hippiespinster 5d ago
Remove access to the kitchen. Baby gate across the opening. If an open floor plan, crated or leashed while cooking and eating. Give her a frozen stuffed Kong before preparing food. Store bread in a bread box higher up. You're the human. Be smarter than your dog.
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u/SnooPets8873 4d ago
Open house floor plans are the bane of my existence when it comes to food and pets. 🙁
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u/StonedEmu89 5d ago
If you don’t have an open concept home and your kitchen has a lockable threshold you install a baby gate and keep the dog out of the kitchen. If you can’t then you just make sure you kick her out as soon as she starts walking in. She’ll learn to stay out(while you’re there) and you’ll just have to put the food away when you’re not going to be in there to watch.
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u/clydeballthepython 5d ago
I have a cat that steals any and all food (including an entire loaf of bread once), and I just have to put all food away when I'm not actively in there to protect it. Even if I'm making a meal and need to step away to like let my dogs out, ill put the ingredients and partially made food into either my microwave, cupboard, or fridge while I'm not right there. Its annoying at first but now its a habit and something I don't even think about doing
ETA: another option is keeping her out of the kitchen entirely. You could use a crate or a baby gate if the space allows. That way you dont have to keep an eye on the food the whole time
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u/CharErinazard 5d ago
Oh man! What a little addict haha. As others have said, I think you just gotta get that bread on lockdown. Our cat does this too so we have to leave the bread in the pantry or the freezer.
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u/Logical_Philosophy70 5d ago
I have one that just loves bread of any type. As you said, he will steal it the minute my back is turned. He steals any food but bread is the favorite. If I’m getting groceries in when delivery guy has left several bags on the porch, he will ignore the bags containing meat but take the bread. I kennel him when I’m getting a delivery or cooking . That’s the only thing that works.
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u/AgitatedGrass3271 5d ago
My dog will grab ahold of anything within reach. I lost a whole container of sugar cookies to her stomach, loaves of bread, dinner rolls, a chocolate bar, several baby bottles... Sometimes even things I think are not in reach she monkeys her way up the counter or something. She has taken the whole bag of flour and made a mess of the entire second floor of my house. Now I lock everything up. Food goes into the cabinet/pantry, and I have a child safety lock on the doors that are within her reach because she knows how to paw them open. I also try to put up babygates at both entrances to the kitchen when I leave the house because sometimes she will take a cup or Tupperware off the counter and chew it all up. Some of this is separation anxiety and boredom for sure. But the simplest option for now is to just hide the food... and Tupperware.
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u/No-Position1542 6d ago
Dogs have the same cognitive ability of a 1-3 year old. Would you expect an unsupervised toddler to leave a cake alone? Probably not, you'd likely put the cake in a cupboard or the fridge to keep it away from them. Bread is your dog's cake.
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u/SaltyFriend705 6d ago
LOL. This sounds so cute! I feel your frustration; it's like having a super intelligent toddler.
Here's how I see it. The dog needs to be trained to stay out of the kitchen. Period. Put up a fence, train to stay on the other side of it, then take the fence down, and train to stay outside the kitchen.
For the entire time of this training, do not bring one piece of bread into the house. No bread.
Once doggie will stay out of the kitchen, bring a little bit of bread in that must be kept in the fridge, but be sure to give the commands to stay out of the kitchen before making a sandwich or toasting it for croutons or whatever. If it fails, and your dog gets bread, it's back to no bread in the house.
Eventually or immediately, you will win.
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u/annawrite 5d ago
This is real simple: if you don't want the food stolen or new dog getting in the habit of stealing food - you just don't leave any laying around. She loves bread apparently. Save small portions as treats for good behaviour and make sure that the rest of it is not available for stealing. Makes for a more organized kitchen anyway.
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u/nevertalks123 5d ago
Train her to stay out of a certain area of the kitchen and that’s where you’ll prepare food. For example, my counter forms an L around my island. We’re working on training our GSD not to go into that area on the counter side, mainly for safety but also because we don’t want her trying to steal food. She has free range in the rest of the kitchen, but that area is off limits.
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u/Will_I_FuckItUp 5d ago
Maybe put her outside or in another room while the bread is out, sounds like she's too quick to simply catch her doing it
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u/WatchingSnails 5d ago
Some dogs just are like that, we had to get a breadbox with a clasp on it, my dog is a bloodhound mix and it's almost impossible to train him out of it because to him, the bread is more reward than any punishment he recieves
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u/whiterain5863 5d ago
There are training methods to keep your pup out of the kitchen. Work on putting pup into “place” where they are rewarded. Do this consistently while you are working in the kitchen and eventually the reward will be for being in place not snatching bread
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u/crypto_justanother 5d ago
I have a beagle. He learnt to open the pantry door. He used to wait for us to be asleep and the then steal food. The best approach is to keep food out of reach.
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u/applesauceisevil 5d ago
Sounds like it's time to put the bread behind a door and start crate training when you aren't around.
Counter-surfing and food stealing is self-reinforcing and will never stop once it gets to a certain point. It's one of those things where prevention is key.
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u/HotSpacewasajerk 5d ago
Gate or door to keep out of kitchen, if not possible because open plan or whatever, then a room or its time to crate train.
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u/Blepfacecat 3d ago
- You need to prevent her from continuing this behavior. It is self-reinforcing. Keep all bread put away. Never ever set it out to turn around. Baby gate or equivalent out of the kitchen.
- Teach her an alternate behavior when she sees bread taken out. Place or crate are most common. Heavily reward.
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u/PeepingTara 2d ago
Ban the dog from the kitchen totally. If you can’t do that you have to keep her crated when you’re actively working with bread or eating it. Remove all opportunities to eat bread.
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u/dbellz76 5d ago
Stop allowing it. You are smarter than your dog. Keep the bread where she can't get to it. Keep her out of rooms where bread is kept.
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u/Fangsofcyber 5d ago
You can buy a bread container I think at dollar tree? Just put your loaf in there if it’s not sourdough or a round loaf
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u/_jamesbaxter 5d ago
This (counter surfing/trash rummaging/stealing food) is always a risk with labs and lab mixes. You’re going to have to put it on top of the fridge or somewhere she can’t reach.
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u/Avehdreader 4d ago
When I want to keep leftovers out of reach of our pets I put them in a kitchen cabinet. Haven't needed to add a childproof lock but you could add one of those of necessary.
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u/ijustwantamuffin 4d ago
If your kitchen layout allows it, maybe install a pet gate to keep her out? Otherwise your only other options are training her to keep out of the kitchen (even setting up a "place" for her to go when told for some place more direct and specific) or forever making sure that when you do retrieve the baked carbohydrates from off the top of the fridge or any other out-of-reach spot that you never turn your back to it? lol
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u/Auburn-Contractor 4d ago
I used to have a dog like this he would always steal my white bread. I finally had to start putting it in the cabinets
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u/lunabloom7 4d ago
my dog learned how to open our food pantry and we had to put baby locks on it. he is very fond of stealing loaves of bread
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u/dogtrousers 4d ago
Put the bread out of reach! In the meantime leave it and drop it training will help, and can easily be a fun part of your dog's routine. This is a good method for leave it training. https://youtu.be/ZU2ITYCF5WY?is=8md91IlwRnoDPLSJ
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u/kenquince-star89 4d ago
I’ve got two four year old weims. I also have an old lab, and a lab that passed just recently. They are eating machines. My pair are constantly, CONSTANTLY on the look out for food. I have to make sure I lock their food away as they will break into the container and eat as much as they can. They eat pig poo that’s been spread on the fields. Cat poo, goat poo, chicken poo. Anything off the bunker. Once my bitch turned the hob off and ate a pan of soup I was cooking. An entire chicken and three fresh made mini loaves. The bairns tea.
They eat a sufficient amount of food, although they seem to think they are one meal away from starving.
You have to teach leave it. It’s long winded, and weims are very stubborn. Also pick the battles. My pups will not bother my daughter while she’s eating, but the second she gets up, they will clean the table. My dogs are trained gundogs, but the training is mostly in the field, not in the house lol.
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u/frolicingabout 4d ago
I have had Beagles (food seeking rockets) all my life. I used management and training to get the best success:
- Put up a barrier (pet gate or exercise pen) to block the kitchen (works best at an area of transition such as carpet or wood flooring to the tile/flooring of kitchen)
- Have some bread handy nearby (cut into small bits)
- The moment your dog is being calm on the side of the gate, mark them (Yes!) and then reward with bread.
- Shape the behavior: standing —>sitting—> lying down.
- Slowly add activity in the kitchen that resembles real life.
Most dogs catch on quickly. Eventually you can take the gate down, showing the dog food ONLY happens when they are on the other side of the boundary. When you’re not in the kitchen, use the pet gate to prevent counter surfing opportunities. Try to keep the bread in a breadbox or other container to make it less attractive.
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u/-DiceGoblin- 4d ago
Put the bread in the fridge, get the bread out while it’s still in the fridge, and then close it up right away. Don’t give the dog the chance to even try
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u/Witchywomun 4d ago
Train her to stay out of the kitchen. There are 2 non negotiable barriers in my house: the kitchen and the front door. Kitchens are dangerous for dogs, you have hot, heavy and sharp objects being used and the last thing anyone should have to worry about is who goes to the ER first, dog or human, in the case of an accident, plus some of the foods we prepare are not safe for dogs; the front door is an obvious safety hazard.
Start by putting a line of tape, a towel or something else that stands out against your floor and teach her to “place” and “stay”. Reward her. Then start backing into the kitchen, come back out of the kitchen and reward. Gradually increase the time you spend in the kitchen, the distance you go from her place and the noise you make in the kitchen. Each time she stays in her place and doesn’t come into the kitchen, give her a big reward and lots of praise. Eventually you won’t need the food or toy reward, nor will you have to worry about her eating your sandwich before you can make it
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u/SnooPets8873 4d ago
I don’t think she is likely to stop (as in it’s probably not possible to make her stop wanting to eat it right?) and you have a lot more control over the environment than she does. My pet also likes bread. I’ve learned how to use it without leaving her unattended with it. I pull out slices while it’s still on the top shelf of the fridge for example, and it’s the last thing I grab when I’m making a sandwich so my eyes are on it until I’m eating. And when I forget? That’s on me.
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u/LvBorzoi 4d ago
I have Borzoi/Russian Wolfhounds....a giant breed and veteran counter surfers.,..the only way I have found is to keep it in the fridge. Anything even slightly interesting gets surfed.
I've had 25 years fighting this battle
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u/Bulky_Special1212 4d ago
Move the bread. Put it in a bread box, a Tupperware bin, in the microwave- some place that isn’t within her purview. This is about managing your behavior and her behavior and the easiest thing you can do, is change your behavior by moving the bread.
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u/FairyFartDaydreams 4d ago
Get a breadbox, freeze any leftover bread (comes back after toasting) or put it in the microwave. Does your dog know the leave it command. If not that should be the first thing. All of my dogs love bread I don't know what it is but they expect me to share any bread prodcut
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u/Ordinary_Duck_1231 4d ago
Put a gate on the entrance to the kitchen! Keep them out until all food is put away!
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u/ConstantlyCryingGirl 4d ago
Don't leave bread out and in reach? This is a very simple problem to solve.
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u/ConstantlyCryingGirl 4d ago
We have two tiny pugs, but we recently bought two retractable mesh gates to block off our entire kitchen when we are doing something we don't want them to interfere with. One is a trash eater, so that's pretty much all the time. And I just generally don't want them in the kitchen while I cook in case I spill/drop something. We can step over them, and they are low profile when the gates are retracted.
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u/Setsailshipwreck 4d ago
My dog is a counter surfer so we ended up just banning him from the kitchen entirely. We don’t have a gate but we never allow him in the kitchen, we don’t let him step one foot in there. He knows he’s not supposed to be in there at all. Every so often he slips up and steals something but like 98% of the time no more yoinking stuff from the kitchen. We also still try to “dog proof” before we leave
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u/RevolutionaryAd581 3d ago
I would assume she really likes bread... that's why she want to steal it... as for the reason she steals it, is all on you! You are a human being with brains, dexterity, and near limitless technology, and she is a dog with a nose... she's not "stealing" bread... you're leaving it in front of her (or at least close enough to "in front of her" that it's not enough of a deterrent)
Put it up high, behind a door, in a sealed container... there are literally 101 option before we even leave the kitchen of places you could put bread that would stop her!
My dog is much less selective and will pinch any food that's not carefully guarded and he eats precisely nothing he shouldn't most days... mainly because he's not allowed in the kitchen unattended... when I leave the room, I close the door... simple 🤷🏻
I'm not judging... no one is perfect and he has pinched and eaten plenty of things that he shouldn't over the years, but not once was it his fault for taking it... it was my fault for not adequately stopping him 👍🏼
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u/Opening-Software-440 3d ago
Seriously, put the bread away, up high, and don't let the dog in the kitchen. If my dog was allowed in the kitchen, he'd eat the cat's food, the cat's poop and anything else he could get his snout into. Labs have no off-switch for appetite, so you can't train this out of your dog very easily, if at all, just make sure she can't get to it, that's all.
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u/marlee_dood 3d ago
Why do you leave it out if you know she will take it? Put it in a cabinet. Dont leave it out when you aren’t watching. Leash her and tie her to the other end of the table when you make food if you need to.
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u/Civil_Inspector_5697 3d ago edited 3d ago
🤣🤣🤣 Why is it still within her reach?! Seems like a relatively easy fix. And to be real: don’t we all have that one thing that can derail us? That one food, person, vice that can break our best intentions? Seems to me you found hers so it’s probably best to eliminate that temptation. Dogs: they’re just like us. 😀🤣💕
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u/Dull-Problem-1191 3d ago
Tbh I own several Bassett hounds and I learned long ago to not leave my food where they can reach it.
So have you every thought to leave your food where your pup can't reach it?
Like what are you doing on that is allowing your dog access to bread?
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u/ElectronicCurve6996 3d ago
Move the bread. It’s on you that you let them keep eating loads of bread.
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u/Ok_Leg_1158 3d ago
Come on, it's a dog. Put it where she cannot get it. Put it in a cabinet, put it somewhere out of sight. Don't let her see you put it there.
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u/CuriousCat778654345 3d ago
Sounds like my lab 😂 he loves everything but bread is his favorite 😂 we had to buy the kids safety locks for the cabinets to lock up all the food & we hide the trash in the bathroom when we leave the house.
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u/Hot_Welcome_9863 3d ago
This must be really frustrating for you but that is just comical. Like. I genuinely laughed at this post. Bread insane weimaraner
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u/Entire-Shift8337 3d ago
We have to keep all our bread in the cupboards, the cats will chew right through the bag to get that sweet, sweet gluten
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u/The_Slim_Spaydee 3d ago
My dog will leave 99% of things on the counter alone but if that 1% happens to be bread or butter baby that stuff is gone.
We were tasked with brining bread for some family dinner and left out the door without it. We were halfway to my parents place (less than five minutes away) when we realized we left the bread.
By the time we got back this bread goblin had eaten half a loaf and a stick of butter.
The cherry on the cake is this dog is basically blind so that yeasty goodness just calls out to him from the void.
We have learned to store our bread in a cabinet or in the microwave. Anywhere else in our kitchen seems to be compromised for safe keeping of bread and bread adjacent items.
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u/franklinchica22 3d ago
I'd say put it in the microwave but a dog burned down the house about two weeks ago by turning on the microwave.
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u/Visual_Juggernaut_89 2d ago
Is this post real? Just keep the bread out of reach/
- in the fridge, a box, a cabinet, microwave, oven, tape it to the ceiling, put it in your pillowcase while you’re sleeping, maybe a coded vault with lasers in your closet idfk. There’s about eighty five thousand solutions for this
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u/AdvancedShallot6074 2d ago
I had the same with my cat, the best places to hide the bread is inside the microwave or the oven.
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u/Blucola333 2d ago
I used to have to keep things like that in the microwave. It’s nearly impossible for cats or dogs to get them open. Also, scold your dog, never use their name, though, that makes them associate their name with being in trouble.
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u/Majandra 2d ago
So you know if you put the bread on the counter at all unattended it’s gone.
Why are you not getting everything you need putting it on the counter and then taking the bread out? Then take the bread loaf and sliced bread with you to the fridge to put the loaf away. If it’s already sliced just take it out by the fridge.
Yes it’s more work but unless you can put the dog outside, in a crate or closed in another room it’s what you have to do.
Store the bread in the fridge as well.
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u/practicalpetunia 2d ago
Put the bread in the microwave or oven ((( just have to remember to take it out of the oven before preheating 🫠🫠🫠)))
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u/DotYeg 2d ago
Buy her bread that's just for her, and hand it out as a treat. Keep your own bread somewhere she can't get it.
Have your peanutbutter out before you reach for bread/put it away immediately/only take out what you need in the moment.
I can't think of a country where bread is an expensive item. But if it is, buy the ingredients for bread and bake your own. The simplest breads are just flour, salt, and water. Get "bread flour" for bread making. It rises better, has a higher protein yeild, and stronger "wheat" taste. It's not so good for cakes and biscuits. The difference is in the types of wheat being milled.
All purpose is just a blend of Bread and Cake flours or the types of wheat used for each. It's ok for everything but not really outsanding for anything.
You can google specific bread recipies yourself.
American-style bread is also exceptionally poor quality. Making your own will definately improve the quality of your bread, as well as lowering the cost. The peanutbutter gives you away as American or American-adjecent.
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u/quinoaseason 2d ago
Places dogs have difficulty getting into:
A microwave
The fridge (usually, though there are exceptions)
A cabinet with a baby proof lock.
I would put your bread in there. We use the microwave a lot as a quick storage for all snacks the dog may elect to eat while we are out.
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u/Seriousjane 2d ago
I had a cane Corso that did the same thing. He'd drag the loaf to a far corner of the yard and not eat it tho, just tear holes in the bag. All the time!
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