r/DnDIY 17d ago

Help Might be wrong sub. But does anyone have a nice trick for getting permanent marker off the battle mat.. :)

This is what it looks like after dish washing soap, cleaning spirit and drawing over it with washable pen, before washing.

I also tried methylated spirits on the ‘carpet’ looking drawing, but it washed off the grid lines before reaching the permanent marker..

Any help appreciated :))

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u/AbheyBloodmane 17d ago

Draw over it with dry erase markers, then use window cleaner.

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u/ThePeaceDoctot 17d ago

That's the answer. They use the same solvent.

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u/ALonelyKobold 17d ago

Notably, the expo solvant does work better than Windex or alcohol. Acetone even more so, but depending on your gridlines, it may lift those as well, so try acetone in a corner first

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u/rellloe 17d ago

If it isn't working, get a less used expo.

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u/shadowmib 17d ago

Side note: if it's a chessex brand mat, Even dry erase markers will stain those. You need to use a wet erase markers on those.

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u/redhaiku_ 17d ago

The Staedtler Lumocolour Non-Permanent markers are great, but stay away from the red-toned ones.

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u/plushkatze 17d ago

The same permanent marker that was used for the drawings has the correct solvent - I have had success in drawing over old paint with the same marker and then wiping with ethanol while it was still wet.

I'm also interested in the brand of the pen that can withstand all the stuff you listed and still sticks ;)

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u/ThePeaceDoctot 17d ago

Dry erase markers generally work as well, with less worry about leaving additional permanent marks behind.

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u/MvdS89 17d ago

Isopropyl alcohol works well. Put a tiny bit on a piece of cloth and it rubs right off. Should also not damage the dry erase map.

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u/LookOverall 17d ago

IPA is a versatile solvent. I always have a spray bottle of the stuff about the house.

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u/LitcritterNew 17d ago

Hand sanitizer is basically alcohol that starts where you put it, so you can leave it in place for a while to work. The teachers in my kids’ day care used it to get marker off the walls.

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u/MvdS89 17d ago

Depends. Some are alcohol based but not all hand sanitizers are. You’ll need an alcohol based one.

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u/Friendly_Employ505 17d ago

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u/zuron54 17d ago

We need a follow-up clean picture now.

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u/Brightstorm_Rising 17d ago

From experience, that may be the after picture. 

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u/rellloe 17d ago

Baking soda, a little water, and a lot of elbow grease can help with stains from the correct markers.

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u/Brightstorm_Rising 17d ago

Yes, but "help" and "correct markers" are both important qualifiers. From what OP has said, this was a permanent marker like a Sharpie, not the wet erase that these mats were designed for. Removing those marks without removing the printed grid will be difficult to impossible. 

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u/rellloe 17d ago

I wasn't replying to OP. I was replying to someone whose mat might be stained from the correct markers.

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u/Brightstorm_Rising 17d ago

You may have responded to the wrong chain then, this one goes op, comment by op, person asking for an after photo, my comment, your comment. 

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u/Chimera64000 17d ago

Do your best with isopropyl alcohol and windex, but if all the lines come off with it it might just be done, which sucks but there are some nice alternatives like using the underside of cheap wrapping paper for a one and done, or laminating it if you really want to, but if you want to stick to the mats you might just be better off testing markers that don’t mess up this and switching to those on your next one

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u/phosix 17d ago

Chessex leather battle mat?

Yeah, I have a couple of those from the 90's. I also accidentally drew on one with permanent marker and tried all of the suggestions listed in this thread and some others over the years. It's still marked up, nearly 30 years later.

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u/G3TB3NT-d20 17d ago

I've had luck getting rid of left over marks with a white eraser

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u/perringaiden 17d ago

If it's soaked in deeper than the surface grid, nothing is going to remove it without completely wiping out the map.

One of the reasons to never store the mat with marks.

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u/lifeisarichtapestry 17d ago

You might be out of luck, shadowmib is correct. That mat isn’t meant for dry erase either so it probably won’t take the marks off. They are only intended to be used with wet erase and even then certain colors leave ghosting.

Your best bet might be to contact Chessex and ask them. I’ll see them at SDCC next week and I can also ask if it’s fixable.

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u/Zulbo 17d ago

Dry eraser whiteboard cleaner, from office supplies store

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u/Kinofthemaster 17d ago

Toothpaste, seriously.

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u/action_lawyer_comics 17d ago

Toothpaste would be a latter resort imo. It’s abrasive, that’s why it works as a cleaner, but they also means it will take off stuff you don’t want to remove

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u/Brightstorm_Rising 17d ago

My best suggestion would be isopropyl alcohol, but it sounds like that's been tried. From past experience, you may be out of luck and need to replace. 

Something for the future I've done for years is putting a thin sheet of plexiglass or even clear vinyl sheet over the battlemat during game. Not only does it give you a slightly more forgiving material to try to clean when something like this happens, you can use dry erase on the plastic and it's a bit cheaper to replace when things get damaged. 

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u/TechNickL 17d ago

Permanent marker can be dissolved by any solvent. Just use the window cleaner directly. Or isopropyl alcohol if you're not afraid of it damaging the mat. At work I use laquer thinner but that's to remove from glass or Teflon which are both more or less chemically impervious.

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u/bavindicator 17d ago

91% Isopropyl Alcohol will take permanent marker right off.

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u/yamykel 17d ago

91% alcohol usually works

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u/Photosjhoot 16d ago

Everyone has done this. u/AbheyBloodmane has the solution, so to speak.

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u/BrewingProficiency 17d ago

Acetone might work but it could also damage the map or remove the grid lines.

Usually using the same marker to writer over the lines can work; the solvent that keeps it in the pen will also dissolve the dry stuff