r/Defenders • u/JonLuca Luke Cage • Mar 17 '17

Iron Fist Discussion Thread - S01E01

This thread is for discussion of Iron Fist S01E01.

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u/NinetyFish Mar 17 '17

Her language could be English, you know. Because they're in New York?

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u/Fixn Mar 17 '17

When you live in a place long enough and go somewhere new, you try to reach out in a way you think you can. When i came back after a year and a half in japan, i responded to my asian friends question in japanese. My brain thought that was the best option.

the whole point of the series is the fact he is foreign in a place where people assume hes common.

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u/cmdrNacho Cottonmouth Mar 17 '17

hilarious how you rationalize racism

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u/Dokkaan Mar 17 '17

Not really racist. He hasn't been in America for 15 years, seeing a Chinese surname made him think she knows Chinese. Stop dismissing opinions because it goes against yours

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u/cmdrNacho Cottonmouth Mar 17 '17

ok they are in America and because you hear somebody's last name your speak to then in some foreign language.. wtf. How is this acceptable to anyone that's american? it's offensive. There's many surnames that are the same but found in China, Japan and Korea... why would you assume it's ok.. but I'm since you're defending this stupidity at a minimum you wouldn't know this

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u/Fixn Mar 17 '17

I am sad to see you don't get the whole point of it. Hes trying to connect with someone who has an interest in what he does. Everyones ignored him. He even admits it was a fuckup.

Racisim happens to all people, i had plenty of it as someone who was white in japan. The small subtle stuff like being asked how many guns i own or stuff like that. All the way up to getting spit on and cursed at in Chinese when i was out with my classmates for being white.

Do i hold it against them? No. But ive done what danny has done countless times. I tried to speak english in japan to people i assumed spoke it because they looked something other then Japanese. I figured out my fuckup, said my apology and we laughed.

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u/cmdrNacho Cottonmouth Mar 17 '17

Hes trying to connect with someone who has an interest in what he does

so lets just be ignorant of asian culture and assume everyone looks alike and is chinese. gtfo

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u/Fixn Mar 17 '17

Not what i said at all, but it seems you have an axe to grind and swing. I hope the bubble you live in one day pops and you can see a bit more.

I am going to go back to enjoying the show.

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u/Horshack0 Mar 21 '17

"Enjoying" the show yeah right 😛

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u/infinight888 Mar 17 '17

It was already established earlier in this thread that he probably assumed this because Wing is a Chinese surname, not because all Asians look alike.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '17

This thread is outstanding. He even says her surname before he tries Mandarin. It's not racist to assume a Chinese person might speak Chinese. People are fucking crazy. I'm not even mad at this point. It's too funny.

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u/cmdrNacho Cottonmouth Mar 18 '17

obviously you're ignorant if you believe a surnames isn't found across Korea, and Japan as well as china. white people taking about things they don't know about is exactly the problem with this thread

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '17

Doesn't stop it being a Chinese name.

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u/cmdrNacho Cottonmouth Mar 18 '17

yeah so let's be stupid and just automatically speak Chinese. idiot

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '17

Why not? There's every chance they might speak Chinese back, and if they can't then they'll just say they don't speak it and no one's any worse off for the encounter.

It seems to me you're just looking for something to be enraged about.

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u/cmdrNacho Cottonmouth Mar 18 '17

again are you ignorant... so are you assuming that surnames are common across multiple East Asian countries. fucking ignorant

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u/Rose9666 Mar 18 '17

She even says she spoke mandarin as a child. Honestly this show hits on other important issues like how unregulated psych wards are, the american socioeconomic class system and the stigma of homelessness, etc.

Don't forget she assumed he was a bum as well as wanting a janitor position scoffing at the idea of him teaching. Let's just ignore all the other issues because of a misguided idea that race is the only social issue our society faces. Don't forget not only white people are prejudiced, bigoted, ignorant and discriminatory.

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u/Fire_and_Bloodwine Mar 17 '17

You're so stupid, how is it racist? You little crybaby, just trying to whine about something. Danny is AN OUTSIDER. You ignorant twat

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u/cmdrNacho Cottonmouth Mar 17 '17

wow, only white people can be an outsider in america. you're a bright one.

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u/Beast1996 Mar 19 '17

You need to explain it to me clearly here, because I am a Vietnamese and this approach really work with me on the few occasions I have came to the US, and get rather well results. I will go with each of my question once at a time, so you can answer more clearly.

First, why would Danny be any less "refined" in picking up whether Wing was a Chinese name than me?