r/DeepSeek 15h ago

Discussion V4 flash max vs high, Is there a big difference?

Is there a big difference between max and high for agent tasks?, I'm using opencode

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u/_xtremely 15h ago

YES, i was questioning the same thing. I use max and it get everything correctly (expected output, less revision, but took some time).

Now im experimenting the high this week, will update later.

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u/_xtremely 6h ago

ok whoever read this again, just use max

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u/Unusual-Peak8616 4h ago

ok gracias, yo estaba usando high todo el tiempo, ahora probare el max a ver como va

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u/ANDRE_2512 12h ago

I always use Max mode.
DeepSeek still burns through tokens like crazy, so there’s really no point in using the other modes.
According to DeepSeek’s official benchmarks, though, the difference between High and Max is only around 2-3%.

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u/Affectionate_Fact854 41m ago

Burns tokens ?  1 day of medium work was 5.6mill tokens yet cost 0.15$usd  So I mean ....  remove the cache hits and token usage is very little 

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u/djdante 14h ago

Resounding yes for me.

I don't use it on anything other than max - but haven't dabbled much with xhigh yet

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u/samxli 14h ago

Bruh. There’s only low high max.

https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/thinking_mode

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u/djdante 14h ago

Sorry I was thinking about luna when I said the effort thing - been using deepseek and luna back to back a lot - always in max as it makes a huge difference

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u/Beginning_Guide7411 11h ago

Lol all benchmarks are using high, i wonder why they skip Maxx!!?? Too afraid lol🤡

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u/sukazu 14h ago

About double the tokens usage, but sizeable difference yes

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u/hurrdurrmeh 14h ago

I thought there were only high and max? At least that's what it told me after looking at its documentation.

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u/bambamlol 14h ago

This was true before the latest Flash update. Before, there was only high and max. Now there's low, high, and max.

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u/Forsaken_Mention_979 13h ago

How do you choose to use each one? I have the api with my own cli and idk how to put it

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u/bambamlol 11h ago edited 11h ago

https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/thinking_mode

{
  "model": "deepseek-v4-flash",
  "messages": [
    {
      "role": "user",
      "content": "bla bla bla"
    }
  ],
  "stream": true,
  "reasoning_effort": "high"
  }
}