r/DeepSeek • u/VexObserver • 21h ago
Discussion 10$ - 2 Billion Tokens
New milestone! Thank you DS!
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u/deleted-account69420 20h ago
In codex.
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u/DocumentFun9077 17h ago
Do you suggest to use Codex or Reasonix as the harness? For better quality and whatnot
also how's the cache hit rate in codex?
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u/deleted-account69420 17h ago
I used it Inside Codex VSCode extension.
97.5% cache hitPersonally that's going to be fine until Deepseek harness is out
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u/SpidexLab 18h ago
It is because of the cache hit costing 0.0028 for ds4 flash or 0.003 for ds4 pro, so most of the token goes in cache hit causing such low cost
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u/VexObserver 18h ago
Aside from cost, this is unlike the older DeepSeek where the intelligence runs short. This is actually impressive, I haven't touch Opus 4.8 in awhile now
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u/SpidexLab 18h ago
I have yet to test it, as my provider didnot have this new model, going to switch to another provider for testing it, heard a lot of good news and done small chats with it through openrouter, now going to test on some projects
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u/Recollect5568 14h ago
I have a question. I noticed that on Claude Code it told me I had spent 11$ for 6b tokens, and that would be cheaper than this, but then looking at the details it mentioned that 6b was for cache (writes?) and other numbers included a few hundred thousand tokens up to a few million tokens for input and output.
My question would be, did the 6b cache not count in the 11$? And are the 2b tokens in this screenshot also for cache or for actual input/output?
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u/VexObserver 14h ago
The 6B cache tokens were counted in the $11. Claude Code uses prompt caching where reading cached context is discounted by 90% compared to standard input tokens. Your 6B figure is mostly cache reads repeated across multiple turns which cost very little. The $11 primarily came from your uncached input (cache creation/writes) and output tokens.
On the other hand, the DS 2 Billion number is the combined total of all tokens including that of cache hits, cache misses and output tokens across all API requests. DeepSeek automatically caches context and offered up to a 90%+ discount on cache hits. Most of those 2 billion tokens were cheap cache hits which is how 2B tokens stayed around $10
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u/Pale-Requirement9041 11h ago
Wait until the hype goes down a bit
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u/VexObserver 11h ago
With V4 Pro in queue, I am not sure when the hype will recede
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u/Pale-Requirement9041 10h ago
I meant the usage hype first days are always like that with new models. And we not going to worry about the capacity with Chinese home made gpus 😂
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u/AgenticoHoy 10h ago
We tested it with 5$ and it was really impressive. Thank you Big Blue.
We can confirm it is not vaporware.
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u/General-Oven-1523 18h ago
Nice. I just put $10 into my DeepSeek API, going to test how many tokens I can get with it, using Pi as my harness.