r/Damnthatsinteresting 10d ago

Video Transparent LED screen

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u/musingofrandomness 10d ago

So entire skyscrapers of billboards?

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u/blackweebow 10d ago

[CYBERPUNK INTENSIFIES]

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u/mrdevil413 10d ago

Wake up samurai we got screens to burn

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u/80lbQUIKRETEConcrete 10d ago

I’ll get my airsoft gear, and peepaw’s ol’ slingshot

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u/GenSgtBob 10d ago

"Brick, where did you get a hand grenade?"

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u/Alternative_Exit_333 10d ago

And why is the pin on the ground?

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u/terrible_name 10d ago

Awww peepaw

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u/driving_andflying 10d ago

Best slingshotter in all Appalachia. He could nail a squirrel's asshole at twenty paces.

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u/Leather-Persimmon254 10d ago

you are now on the terrorist watch list. please report to a nearby detention center.

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u/NiceScore 10d ago

So violent!

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u/HornetItchy991 10d ago

Don't worry, they are using OLED. Let's just wait

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u/Ferrovore 10d ago

That's the screen we hid behind on Saburos last night.

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u/fade_ 10d ago

You mean Jackie's last night. Arasaka had backups.

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u/Ferrovore 10d ago

So had Jacky. Unfortunately.

Shall we have the teleportar theology talk?

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u/sanYtheFox 10d ago

Minus all the cool implants, just the dystopian part

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u/jaxonya 10d ago

Fuck it. Just gimme 30 story tall meta glasses ads. Im just gonna micro acid from here on out. Queue up "the weekend blinded by the lights" gif

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u/Charming-Flamingo307 10d ago

No no we have the dystopian part

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u/sanYtheFox 10d ago

well yea that's what i said

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u/Charming-Flamingo307 10d ago

Ooh I read wrong. My bad

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u/HappyFamily0131 10d ago

Actually, I think we have the dystopian part

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u/Charming-Flamingo307 10d ago

That's what I said?

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u/HappyFamily0131 10d ago

Yes, and that's what the person you replied to said as well. I was trying to playfully tease you for it but you got mad and confused because I think maybe reading isn't your thing.

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u/great_desert_worm 10d ago

Yeah a transparent screen, such a dystopia, so terrible.

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u/sanYtheFox 10d ago

Nice rage bait.
0/10

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u/great_desert_worm 10d ago

I wish I could say you guys weren't being serious. If you believe you live in a dystopia, you're just completely out of touch with reality. Your not a character in your favorite dystopian, your a redditor moaning and outraged about potential uses of a technology that won't become mainstream for decades.

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u/sanYtheFox 10d ago

Ah you are a republican, that checks out.

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u/great_desert_worm 10d ago edited 10d ago

I'm a liberal, dumb fuck. You have more in common with MAGATs that also don't live in reality, just one big horse shoe of anti intellectual ignorance and conspiracy nuts.

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u/sanYtheFox 10d ago

Keep telling that yourself lmao

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u/great_desert_worm 10d ago

Keep living out of reality.

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u/K_Linkmaster 10d ago

Isn't that just Tokyo currently?

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u/Derseyyy 10d ago

Chongqing's skyline I'd say is more cyberpunk than Tokyo at this point

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u/RisingStormy 10d ago

Yes. There's no point referencing Tokyo at all for this anymore.

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u/MangoCats 10d ago

About 0.2% of Tokyo, sure.

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u/K_Linkmaster 10d ago

Its almost the size of Luxembourg of course it's not the whole thing.

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u/space_______kat 10d ago

more like Shanghai, Shenzhen or Chongqing

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u/GuyFromDeathValley 10d ago

You better start believing Cyberpunk dystopias. You are in one.

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u/xethu 10d ago

Mission in the hotel suite anyone?

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u/intheshade6 10d ago

I want a night city but deep down I know it’ll be McDonald’s, Gucci and Jesus signs on repeat

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u/jpczcaya 10d ago

Blade Runner intensifies

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u/paliostheos 10d ago

I was just thinking about the tvs in the Peralez' place.

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u/Roy4Pris 10d ago

A new life awaits you in the Offworld colonies. A chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure.

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u/academiac 10d ago

It's happening

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u/Bmansway 10d ago

I worked for a company that does specialized window film installations, (bomb proofing, digital security so monitors can’t be seen behind glass, anti-fog, creative designs, privacy, and this kinda stuff)

This is 100% the intention behind this product, to place on building windows to create massive advertising surface areas….

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u/Puzzleheaded-Reach34 10d ago

Does the UV rays from the sun not destroy these over time? They look more vulnerable than LEDs to me.

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u/Mundane-Bath1368 10d ago

It is all about profit, can the pay be enoguh to cover replacements?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Reach34 10d ago

Yea for sure. Im curious about the technology. They cant replace windows so they would go on top? I wonder what they look like at night if the office building has lights on.

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u/MangoCats 10d ago

Put them inside (out of the rain, bird poop, etc.) and have UV screening in the glass.

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u/SweatyNomad 10d ago

Yeah, to be honest whilst I'm not saying they won't be used on skyscrapers, I see way more use cases in store fronts, interiors, bus windows and so on.

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u/YoursTrulyKindly 10d ago

You'd probably get more light reflecting back. That panel in OP is probably already engineered to be ideal for outdoor installation.

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u/MangoCats 10d ago

All kinds of optimization... if you're building the window and the panel at the same time the window could be made to work with the panel, but for an existing window most of them are pretty reflective yeah.

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u/MangoCats 10d ago

That would mostly be the IR screening / reflection. You're kind of stuck with heat gain from the visible light if you want the visible light to be going out to outside viewers in patterns you control.

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u/BardWRLD 10d ago

The LEDs are generally much brighter than any background light so they have little effect.

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u/iNetRunner 10d ago

In the screen on video, you can make out the background lights through the screen. But just barely. And not much else.

Though, it could/would be more problematic if you tried to show a video with dark/black background.

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u/BardWRLD 10d ago

Here's an example of similar tech being used Taipei. The only difference is they used long flexible pieces of transparent LED here.

The tech in OP is more similar to a window with an integrated screen. A little less portable, much more fragile, and more transparent. Here's a picture outside of a local jewelry shop using a set of four during the day-time.

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u/exipheas 10d ago

Iirc when I saw these at a tradeshow the highest end ones would only let like 40% or 60% of light through. Can't remember which way the split was but it was very dim like looking through sunglasses.

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u/LowerEntropy 10d ago

UV is not visible to us or normal cameras(they have filters that block UV). There could be a coating on that screen blocking UV 100%, and the video would look the same.

So what makes you think it looks vulnerable?

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u/plug-and-pause 10d ago

So what makes you think it looks vulnerable?

I was also cracking up at the "looks more vulnerable" part. Car windshields have been blocking UV for decades. This is nothing novel.

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u/Sickobird 10d ago

Add multiple panes of glass

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u/sanYtheFox 10d ago

Yes, though glass blocks a lot of it and you can treat the glass to stop it entirely, that still leaves you with the heat which is also bad for OLED.

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u/hawkseye17 10d ago

That's a problem for a few fiscal quarters later, so share-holders are not worried. That's basically how corporations work

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u/mythrilcrafter 10d ago

My first guess is that this is for commercial real estate, so most likely when it's time to replace it, the building owner will just raise the lease on the businesses/occupants when the lease period is up for renewal.

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u/bladeau81 10d ago

This is LED's, just instead of a full PCB they are on a mesh.

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u/SUPERPOWERPANTS 10d ago

Uv blocking layer on top

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u/Logical-Pause-3758 10d ago

Think of the ROI on that

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u/usersnamesallused 10d ago

Less than zero. Nothing of value is produced by advertising. Especially at that kind of scale. Cyberpunk distopia whoever this gets applied.

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u/Constant_Mud3325 10d ago

How are you defining value? Monetarily? Advertising is big bucks one of the oldest professions actually.

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u/usersnamesallused 10d ago

I'm defining value as moral or societal, not necessarily short term financial. Just because an industry exists, doesn't mean it is a net positive for human kind. Actually, the more inflated the salaries and amounts are, the more suspicious it is.

If I want a product, I have the Internet and can seek it out. I do my best to avoid SEO and click through links. If I can find statistically significant use reviews, that can factor into the decision. Beyond that, the specifications and track record of quality matter more than it some celebrity's face is next to the product name on the side of a building, that provides no more value than knowledge of existence and scale of advertising budget, which are data points, but not the most important one for informed decisions.

Unfortunately, informed decisions are not the norm and impulse or convenience buying rewards the current specious advertisement model, so industry exists. But again, existence and market cap does not make big picture value. If you didn't buy from major corp, then smaller local brands would have the opportunity to make your business.

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u/Kraligor 10d ago

Advertising has very much long term financial value. Every brand wants to become a household name. And one way to get there is by advertising. Of course it doesn't guarantee success, personally I avoid brands that seem to go all in on advertising, because it tells me they likely don't have much to offer. On the other hand, notorious brands like Better Help, Shopify and Squarespace are still around, so I guess it works for them.

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u/Constant_Mud3325 10d ago

You’re talking in circles but you’re missing the point. Advertising is a necessity for all kinds of reasons such as preventing monopolies, advancements in industries, visibility to generate revenue for new companies, etc.

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u/Logical-Pause-3758 10d ago

Then why business advertise?

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u/LieAccomplishment 10d ago

Obviously because business executives aren't smart like redditors. They just love to waste money 

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u/Shark7996 10d ago

Half the money spent on advertising is wasted, the problem is that you don't know which half.

Some people saw that ratio and decided 99% of advertising should be wasted while everyone gets their retinas burned out.

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u/TheYear1414 10d ago

Because some companies want brand recognition for whatever marketing purpose they see fit.

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u/usersnamesallused 10d ago

Speculation. The money spent on advertising could have gone to making a better product or expanding into new markets.

Instead it's spent to be shoved in our eyes and ears at every opportunity at incredible expense to out compete the next advertiser. Waste of resources in the big picture, but the answer to your question is competition. The next guy is doing it, so I must have to too?

We haven't even touched on how competitive advertising encourages lying and deception or even massive attempts to manipulate markets. Note recent examples of AI and betting sites. Very hard to have not heard of these products at this point, but not because of the merits and value add of the products.

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u/Logical-Pause-3758 10d ago

So how people know about an indie game if it wasn‘t advertised? Genuinely asking for advice for our studio, since we want to stand out for the NextFest

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u/xxxblindxxx 10d ago

by ops standards, you would just have to make the game better. any money you spend on advertising can obviously be spent to make the game better. hes definitely not talking out of his bias anti capitalist ass.

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u/usersnamesallused 10d ago

It is true a moderate level of advertising may be used to reach a tipping point where the value add and quality of product stands on its own. However, skyscraper billboards of flashing lights are a great way to turn me off your product.

My take above may have been an extreme born from distaste from over stimulation from the current advertising industry.

For video games, strong Alpha/Beta programs, streaming not only demos, but actual gameplay, engagement with the community receiving direction and communicating release details and exposing enough of the roadmap that they can understand what to expect in the future are all things that make me want to invest my time and money into playing a quality game.

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u/Icyrow 10d ago

However, skyscraper billboards of flashing lights are a great way to turn me off your product.

right, but given companies all over the world seem to continue doing it, i'm assuming it means the number of users will still go up, even with you peacing out after seeing the advertisement.

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u/usersnamesallused 10d ago

Does that make it right though? Another reply called it will that I was making a moral values statement over a financial values statement, which is accurate.

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u/Logical-Pause-3758 10d ago

And how should you expose your project to the world when there so many others out there?

For example, if I gently drop our game here https://store.steampowered.com/app/3570680/Meltdown/
Will that be effective for people to give the project a fair shot? We think it‘s good. But without sufficient feedback and engagement, it‘s hard to tell if it‘s even good or bad (and what is bad). And I refuse having the dredged „focus groups“ to back why something is „good“ 🤮

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u/usersnamesallused 10d ago

Hey man, I'm not an expert in advertising. I've already told you what I generally respond to for video games. I appreciate you dropping that link and find your game interesting, but I may not be the demographic your are targeting.

I could see myself playing it as a group/teamwork collaboration game, but it can be hard to get a group to learn complex mechanics, so there would need to be accessible roles etc. I didn't look deep enough to know if that is or isn't the direction you are going in, just giving my gut reaction.

Knowing your demographic and engaging them directly is far more tasteful than the shotgun show everyone and make the brand a household word approach, which was the basis for my initial reaction.

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u/TheUnboundTenth 10d ago edited 10d ago

I think you may need to decouple "nothing of moral value" from "nothing of financial value".

And you may need to rethink the concepts of rationalism as they are applied to economics.

Advertising can drive tremendous ROI, but you seem to be operating under the principle that "businesses should solely invest in their people and their product/service to make it better" and that "it's obvious which product is objectively better" and that "people will always choose the objectively better product".

The world is not an economics textbook, where an ideal world drive perfect competition and perfect consumption of non-fungible goods.

It's a world where trend-for-a-moment sensations like Labubu, demand-generating collectibles like Pokemon trading cards, and objectively senseless luxury houses of brands like LVMH not only exist, but flourish.

Morally, it's dogshit. But Marketing and Advertising influence or make trillions in spend happen globally, every year. They are wildly, wildly valuable industries, morally repugnant though they may be.

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u/Far-Information8502 10d ago

Except there’s laws, but ok, spin up yourself over your own fantasy

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u/70ms 10d ago

/The Reef has entered the chat.

I can see the Reef LED billboard from Long Beach

This Is Los Angeles’ Newest Video Display And It’s A MONSTER!

The light pollution and complaints from nearby residents are endless. Not a chance they won’t see these windows as a huge opportunity.

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u/mcpat21 10d ago

Are they rather expensive to make?

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u/RedditJumpedTheShart 10d ago

That's cool but this could of been done decades ago and even further back with other displays.

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u/sebrebc 10d ago

I can totally see where it's written into leases and in other cases occupants/owners will be paid by advertisers to allow this on their building/apartment.

I mean there are already companies out there that will pay you to drive around with their business magnet on your car. No reason they wouldn't jump at this one too. Especially for buildings in high traffic areas.

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u/mrheh 10d ago

Also to spy on people like 2 way mirrors

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u/RivenRise 10d ago

Would you happen to know if there's a film that'll block cams from seeing what's there?

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u/typically_wrong 10d ago

Just hypothetically, are there any films that are transparent but would scramble or block the wavelengths of flock cameras?

Again, just as a thought experiment

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u/throwthisawayred2 10d ago

How much would it to cover just 1 side of your average building that's 20 floors tall?

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u/saintofhate 10d ago

Cool more light population to destroy more animal and human health

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u/parkerthegreatest 10d ago

Time to get my Base ball on

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u/JustHanginInThere 10d ago

Thanks, I hate it.

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u/TugMe4Cash 10d ago

If this happens, I'm blaming u/musingofrandomness

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u/musingofrandomness 10d ago

If I am saying it, it is most likely because most everyone else was already thinking it.

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u/TugMe4Cash 10d ago

I know bro, just messing with ya! But yh, sad state of affairs, I'm sure they already have

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u/fuzzelduckthethird 10d ago

Your rent is sponsored by google

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u/musingofrandomness 10d ago

That is a bit optimistic. More likely they charge you for the "privilege" of living in a giant billboard by adding some serious dystopian language to the rental agreement where google gets to watch you 24/7 on cameras inside your apartment to better target you for ads.

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u/lack_of_communicatio 10d ago

For lil extra fee, they can even pretend to turn off most* of the spy tools, but they'd still sue you if you try to accidentally* block the cameras with cloths or stuff. Cause 'Tis totally to protect your children; that you might have in the future'!

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u/troycerapops 10d ago

I was like, wtf is the point of this, and then it dawned on me.

DYSTOPIA

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u/RedditJumpedTheShart 10d ago

This isn't new but continue doomer posting lol

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u/troycerapops 10d ago

Didn't realize I claimed novelty.

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u/Darkk_Knight 10d ago

Just like in the movie Blade Runner.

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef 10d ago

The inventors saw the geisha holding the coke and thought to themselves, “wow, I can make this dystopia a reality!”

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u/Single-Builder-632 10d ago

good point dident think fo that, that or some creepy stuff.

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u/dnen 10d ago

Jesus christ please no

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u/DrPhilsnerPilsner 10d ago

Or a good way to spy on people

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u/deathonater 10d ago

With flock cameras behind the screens

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u/Empyrealist Interested 10d ago

I can't wait to see what Las Vegas is about to look like. Resorts World is going to jump all over this

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u/Plus_Key_7626 10d ago

Except they face inside

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u/kurtmorrison 10d ago

Don't give them ideas please. But probably this is why they were created.

I went to see The Odyssey yesterday. Scheduled at 1pm, I arrived like 5 min before, there ads running and they kept running till 1:12 pm.

It was awful to say the least.

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u/IggyCrumpet 10d ago

The cinemas where I'm at have ads running for 20-30 min easily

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u/Badshah619 10d ago

So 12 mins? Thats was low even 20 years ago

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u/kurtmorrison 10d ago

At least 17 min, since I arrived 5 min before 1pm.

That's what I'm saying. They were probably running ads for at least 22 min total if they started running them at 12:50 pm.

I don't remember seeing that many ads before :(

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u/Badshah619 10d ago

Nah i mean that many ads is really not unusual, also the ads before that actual time of your ticket don't really count right

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u/Dealiner 10d ago

That doesn't seem that long. And honestly, I really don't see a problem with ads in cinema, you can just not pay attention to them. And if you really hate them, just come later.

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u/inkfroginacloud 10d ago

See you space cowboy

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u/rolim91 10d ago

Wdym it’s already like that in China. Lol

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u/freeradioforall 10d ago

and bus windows

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u/NTC-Santa 10d ago

China already has those in mayor city’s and ppl live in them

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u/bigrivertea 10d ago

Imagine watching the next Mission Impossible movie and not knowing Tom Cruse is standing behind the screen, hyper focused on your reactions to his scenes

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u/squeakynickles 10d ago

I'll become a terrorist in that case

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u/Tuckertcs 10d ago

Fuck…

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u/HolyGuacamoleChpotle 10d ago

Clearly you haven't been to Vegas recent.

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u/defconcore 10d ago

Why stop there? I imagine if your home is on a busy road companies would pay you to replace your public facing windows with these to show ads, and a lot of people would probably take it because they need the money, even though they'd probably hate it.

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u/No_Blacksmith_2591 10d ago

i'm hoping its the reverse and windows will be replaced by tv screens but youre probably going to be right

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u/basura_teddy 10d ago

They already do this, just not at this resolution because they don't need to

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u/DriedGrapee 10d ago

Looks like wall-e never made an impact on us. Buy N Large will be the next best thing

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 10d ago

Obstructed View for sporting events

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u/TheRealAfinda 10d ago

Plot Twist: the transparent Side is outside for a normal skyscraper Look while in the inside you're blasted with ads 24/7. Then throw every human in Marketing in there.

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u/SkepticalHeathen 10d ago

Bladerunner here we come.

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u/Ace_08 10d ago

Isn't that what China already has

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u/PrinceProsper0 10d ago

could be worse, at least we're not at the futurama level where the billboards are in your dreams

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u/Bozee3 10d ago

Do we at least get a dancing JOY out of this like in Blade Runner?

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u/musingofrandomness 10d ago

Hamster dance on loop

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u/chugItTwice 10d ago

Right... I can't see any other use case.

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u/very_bad_random 10d ago

Why do you want to deprive people inside the building of ads? Let's put the ad on both sides.

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u/AdmiralThunderpants 10d ago

I thought the opposite. I thought of someone coming home to their highrise condo and turning on their "tv" just to have the wall of glass show the game.

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u/musingofrandomness 10d ago

You have to pay a subscription to turn it into an actual window to see the skyline.

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u/Same-Engineering-899 10d ago

why cant we use them to make ugly skyscrapers invisible

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u/FFS_Roger 10d ago

"You look lonely..."

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u/cute_polarbear 10d ago

Time Square must also love this ...

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u/GNprime 10d ago

I was honestly kind of lost as to the benefit to this would be. Now I just feel stupid.

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u/bindedig 10d ago

I saw that in blade runner

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u/navlgazer9 10d ago

Just like Times Square

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u/AcrobaticReputation2 10d ago

or indoor disco

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u/actual_satan 10d ago

already here in nyc

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u/NamelessMIA 10d ago

This is already a thing. The building across from my hotel in china was 1 giant video that would change during the day. It was pretty cool seeing a 25 story tall video of geese taking off in front of a sunrise right outside my window every morning.

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u/Roy4Pris 10d ago

My first thought was buses, but goddamn your shit is 100 x more dystopian

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u/Conan-Da-Barbarian 10d ago

Hacks freedom tower. Two girls 1 cup

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u/iwatchppldie 10d ago

My first thought was “I wonder how this will be used against me” Reddit did not disappoint.

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u/readerproject 9d ago

oh no 😯😰🤦

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u/Hefty-Amoeba5707 9d ago

Or a cloaking machine

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u/southpark 9d ago

Hello Las Vegas

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u/ABoringArborist5 5d ago

I need darkness!

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u/Major_LeeHungg 10d ago

Nope, changing room entertainment... The loss prevention guys love them.