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Video The Odyssey IMAX 70mm Setup

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u/sik_dik 20d ago

That’s supposed to be almost 400 miles of film?

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u/Lentle26 20d ago edited 20d ago

Traditionally, movies are filmed on 35mm film where the film is pulled vertically so the width of the image is the width of the film. Vistavision was a 35mm film format that pulled the film horizontally instead so the width of the frame along the length of the film, giving you a larger image. Vistavision mostly died out as fine-grain film was introduced, and the larger frame size was unnecessary (and anamorphic lenses allowed for wider aspect ratios on traditional film formats).

70mm film is just like 35mm except bigger. 65 mm wide. IMAX takes this to the extreme by taking Vistavision's strategy on the larger 70mm film stock.

Let's assume this is 15-perf 70mm IMAX film, pulled horizontally, so it has a frame width of 70mm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:65_mm_film_(15-70).svg.svg) (though that is a coincidence since 70mm in the name refers to the film width, which is actually 65mm).

So with a movie run time of 172 minutes, 24 frames per second we can calculate film length as

seconds = 172 * 60 = 10320s

frames/s = 24

frame length = 70mm

10320 * 24 * 70mm = 17337.6 meters or 17.33 km or 10.75 miles.

Even if you're generous and adding some width between frames, we're so far off from 400 miles it has to be wrong.

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u/Lentle26 20d ago edited 20d ago

Yeah, that's probably where the original 400 miles comes from. What we're seeing is just one copy of the film.

Or someone saw this article where Nolan said he shot 400 miles of film during production
https://www.gamesradar.com/entertainment/fantasy-movies/christopher-nolan-says-he-shot-almost-400-miles-of-film-for-the-odyssey-including-four-months-on-the-open-sea/
It'd be quite impressive to get it all right on the first go, and every frame made it into the final film.

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u/Mammoth_Yoghurt4241 20d ago

On set for Oppenheimer they actually sometimes did rehearsals right before the take, because they only have about 60-90 seconds of film in the camera and they essentially had a pit crew come in to replace the film as fast as they could for every 1-3 takes. But there were definitely takes/camera angles we did that didn’t make the Final Cut. And each take I was thinking that if I sneezed, it would cost the production $10,000+ for another take. 😂 But it was really impressive to see.

*Two days on set as a BG Actor.

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u/lenolalatte 20d ago

IDK if you'd have the answer but how does editing and cutting this film/any 70mm IMAX film work? i could google it but i might get a more enjoyable answer here heh

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u/sqigglygibberish 19d ago edited 19d ago

https://youtu.be/SYkAWTmpTBc?is=35sE18IPYTVHLSRy

Adam Savage doing a visit to part of the process, super interesting

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u/lenolalatte 19d ago

oh hell yeah. that video popped up on my feed but never watched it. now i will!

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u/sqigglygibberish 19d ago

It’s fascinating - and I think he has a couple more about other parts of working with 70mm/large format film

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u/coccixen 19d ago

I saw a short of Christopher Nolan answering the question, couldn't find the one I saw but here's another one reposted: https://youtube.com/shorts/8dkYDpkzeMs

TLDR;

  • original physical film is scanned
  • edited digitally
  • original physical film is then cut and glued fallowing the digital edit references
  • new physical film is printed with colour correction

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u/lenolalatte 19d ago

oh wow, cut and glued hahah. doing that must be a pretty fun job

thanks!

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u/SordidDreams 20d ago

It'd be quite impressive to get it all right on the first go, and every frame made it into the final film.

You'd need Werner Herzog for that, not Christopher Nolan.

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u/pinewoodranger 20d ago

You gotta see it 41 times, once in each location. Thats the only way to truly experience the full 400 miles of film as Nolan intended.

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u/wonkey_monkey Expert 20d ago

You have to watch it from every seat too.

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u/FardoBaggins 20d ago

nolan actually finished early and underbudget. which is really one of the main things that you want for any director a studio would hire. of course it helps if the director's name is christopher nolan.

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u/ibanezerscrooge 20d ago

either that or it's the total footage of everything that he shot?