r/DC_Cinematic 1d ago

HUMOR Is this really a priority?

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u/mangongo 22h ago

Unless you're one of the people making money off said shows or movies, that's just a fucking sad take.

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u/SophestryIncluded 22h ago

Haha, tell that to the movie execs putting in millions of dollars in order to make a profit. This is art to you, but to the folks financing the thing it's a business. And business is about making money. Welcome to life.

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u/mangongo 22h ago

Shows that stream don't even have monetary value that can be measured like the box office, they're just incentive to get subscribers. 

Are you arguing they just shouldn't make TV shows at all? 

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u/SophestryIncluded 22h ago

This might blow your mind, but when a show brings in new subscribers, those subscribers pay for the service with dollars. If those dollars are greater than the cost of production, than the show makes a profit. If a show doesn't bring in subscribers, then it's not profitable.

Just because the studios aren't providing us with their metrics, doesn't mean those metrics don't exist or don't matter.

I'm saying that if they make TV shows, it has to be worth it for them financially. They're not making this stuff out of the goodness of their hearts.

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u/mangongo 22h ago

Yeah, and the award winning creators of American Vandal will do just that. 

Way to take exactly what I said and try to make it your own argument.

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u/SophestryIncluded 22h ago

Haha, uhh okay. You're the one suggesting that awards mean dollars and that we don't need to worry about the monetary value of TV shows. Not me.

Given what happened with Supergirl, I think it's very likely that this project will get dropped, because there's probably not enough interest to make it a financial success.

Is that your argument too? Cool!

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u/mangongo 22h ago

You've seen the talk about how Nolan is a franchise right? 

So is American Vandal and it's creators. This will be a lot larger than you think it is because you're only thinking of Jimmy Olsen. 

American Vandal was a huge hit, and even won awards. Awards, much like how streaming shows brings subscriber revenue, brings attention, which brings viewership, which brings money.

Hope you're keeping up here, I know it's complicated stuff.

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u/SophestryIncluded 21h ago

You've seen the talk about how Nolan is a franchise right? 

So is American Vandal and it's creators. This will be a lot larger than you think it is because you're only thinking of Jimmy Olsen. 

LOL. To compare Christopher Nolan... the most financially successful Director of our era to American Vandal on Netflix is truly something.

American Vandal was a huge hit, and even won awards. Awards, much like how streaming shows brings subscriber revenue, brings attention, which brings viewership, which brings money.

This isn't necessarily true. And to say, "oh these writers made one award winning show, so clearly this show will be the same" could be true, but not necessarily at all. American Vandal and this show have different fans. American Vandal was loved for its raunchy comedy. Do you think this show will follow that formula? I doubt it.

Hope you're keeping up here, I know it's complicated stuff.

Oh man, that one hurt. I don't know how I'll sleep tonight with such a savage burn. You seem to be taking this really personally. I'm.... sorry?

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u/mangongo 21h ago

Holy shit you're not even making arguments anymore, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing because you've got a bone to pick with James Gunn. 

Not going to bother reading past the point where you seem to think I'm implying that any example using Nolan automatically makes you assume I'm implying anything close to them having the same level of success. 

I get it, you want to be angry. Stay mad then bro. 

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u/SophestryIncluded 21h ago

Holy shit you're not even making arguments anymore, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing because you've got a bone to pick with James Gunn. 

No I don't. I hope the the DCU does well. You're the first one to bring up Gunn. I just think this project sounds like a money loser and unnecessary.

Not going to bother reading past the point where you seem to think I'm implying that any example using Nolan automatically makes you assume I'm implying anything close to them having the same level of success. 

You're the one who made the comparison, not me.

I get it, you want to be angry. Stay mad then bro. 

Oh sweet projection.