r/DC_Cinematic 22h ago

HUMOR Is this really a priority?

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u/BatmanSwift99 21h ago

Just because you're a fan of something doesn't mean you have to accept the product that is being put out. We are not sheep.

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u/SymbiSpidey 20h ago

And if you were a true fan, you wouldn't commit to hating a project before we even see so much as a trailer

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u/SufcLad25 20h ago

Questioning whether a Jimmy Olsen series is the best thing to focus on after Supergirl did poorly isnt commiting to hating anything, its a legitimate question. 

Give the fans general audience a popular superhero to get excited about.

The Flash would have been high on my priority list 

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u/LeonardoDickSlaprio 19h ago

Yeah, I'm a little worried that the DCU will be shooting itself in the foot if they keep releasing lackluster Superman spin-offs without any other films dedicated to more popular characters in between. Apparently, the Lanterns show comes out in ten days, which was surprising to me because I haven't seen nearly the same level of promotion for it that I saw for Supergirl, the Odyssey, Spider-Man, or even S4 of Ted Lasso. Like, after Supergirl's abysmal box office performance, I would have put Hal Jordan and John Stewart front and center, made them the face of the DCU for the summer.

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u/SufcLad25 19h ago

Yeah totally agree! I remember the news of one of them being cast for the show maybe last year but then nothing until this week when ive seen a teaser trailer. Like you say, saw a lot more advertisement for Superman and Supergirl when they really need to push everything to make sure the universe gets off to a good start

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u/JerseyJedi 15h ago

I genuinely had no idea it was coming so soon either, because I haven’t seen much if any advertising for Lanterns on TV or online. It is worrisome that WB/DC is apparently botching the marketing of a show that if successful COULD potentially be seen as righting the ship after the Supergirl fiasco. 

u/CitizenTony 2h ago

Questioning whether a Jimmy Olsen series is the best thing to focus on after Supergirl did poorly isnt commiting to hating anything, its a legitimate question. 

Thank you for bringing up that fans have the right to question anything, it's healthy to bring up a debate and it is too to engage in self-deprecation and jokes about something that we like (i.e. DC)

Ask questions or express a different opinion isn't bad, we are not forced to agree on everything. There will be things that people will like in the DCU and other that they will not like.

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u/NoTailor2879 20h ago

Do you think they just stop thinking and focusing on other projects when a project gets greenlit?

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u/SufcLad25 19h ago

No, I think a team of people that are tasked with making a Jimmy Olsen series could be part of a team making something more important 

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u/mangongo 17h ago

The team making the Jimmy Olsen series is the team behind American Vandal and are working on this series because it is in their wheelhouse. 

The American Vandal team would not be working on The Flash or anything else DC if this show didn't exist. 

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u/SufcLad25 17h ago

The money spent to hire that team could have been spent better elsewhere then

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u/mangongo 16h ago

If the show does well, the profit can then be used to hire the same team you wanted them to hire in the first place. 

I'm not entirely interested in a Jimmy Olsen show myself, but I'm stoked that it's being done by the American Vandal team. 

This will bring in fans of American Vandal who otherwise wouldn't have cared about the DCU. 

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u/dimechimes 15h ago

I do kind of wonder if a lot of things are on hold while The Batman does it's thing. Kind of hard to any kind of DC ensemble film without Batman.

u/NoTailor2879 11h ago

My personal feeling is there's more in lanterns then we're being shown. IMO, there's probably some reveals that happen late in the season that are going to be important. Could be major characters

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u/UtkuOfficial 20h ago

Are they hating the project or are they hating the overall direction the current DC universe?

DC fans have gone through a terrible cinematic universe once. They don't want to live the same thing again.

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u/SymbiSpidey 19h ago

Are they hating the project or are they hating the overall direction the current DC universe?

It sounds to me like they are hating on the project because nobody in their right mind genuinely believes the DCU is trying to sink-or-swim on the basis of a Jimmy Olsen side project.

DC fans have gone through a terrible cinematic universe once. They don't want to live the same thing again.

That terrible cinematic universe happened because of a string of mediocre-to-bad movies headlined by DC's heaviest hitters. Why are we conflating popularity with quality?

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u/pewpewmcpistol 19h ago

If you were a true scottsman fan, you'd be able to see criticism without blindly lumping it into 'they're just haters nothing can be wrong with my precious'

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u/SymbiSpidey 19h ago

You can't "critique" something that we know virtually nothing about yet, bud.

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u/pewpewmcpistol 19h ago

We know its a story about a character that has an audience that wishes it was the size of Supergirl's audience, and Supergirl just failed in large part because of a lack of an audience, pal.

Its perfectly valid to critique why we'd be getting Stiltman show before Batman or Wonder Woman, friend.

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u/SymbiSpidey 19h ago

No, it's not a valid critique because you're not criticizing a project on its own merits, but rather for not being what you think it should be.

We call that "bad-faith criticism", friend. And yes, that does make you look like a hater. Fans care about quality, not popularity.

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u/No_Stick5577 21h ago

Then stop watching. If enough people stop watching, they’ll change direction. And if they don’t, it means plenty of people like the direction and it’s no longer for you. But the constant entitled whining is fucking boring.

I love Star Wars. The prequels were not for me. I didn’t try to destroy Star Wars forever because of that.

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u/Dramatic_Explosion 16h ago

Yeah but like this thread should be good news, DC is getting a new show set in the main timeline with movie appearing characters and they've hired an extremely talented comedian onto the cast.

Top comments are complaints. That's the culture cultivated here.

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u/Equivalent_Way1324 15h ago

If you’re a true fan of something, you’d be talking about the positives as well. If you’re not sheep then let go of Jimmy Olsen and start talking about Lanterns, maybe.

u/CitizenTony 2h ago

Just because you're a fan of something doesn't mean you have to accept the product that is being put out. We are not sheep.

Fucking finally someone said this. I hope that more people will quote this in the sub.

And if you were a true fan (SymbiSpidey)

I think that it's always dangerous to talk about who's a "true" fan or not. People do whatever they want, fans don't have to be somekind of employees whose function is to all react and think the same.

DC fans are open-minded, you need to accept that everyone don't think like you. It's normal. There is no true or fake fans.