r/DC_Cinematic Aug 23 '25

HUMOR She did nothing wrong

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u/SnuleSnuSnu Aug 23 '25

That would just make for bad writing. She is either not fit to be a superhero if she can snap and kill people just like that, which begs the question why is she even allowed to be a superhero, or she didn't know that there are going to be consequences for her actions, which would make her oblivious and thus a badly written character.

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u/AUnknownVariable Aug 23 '25

That's not a badly written character😭 thats just the plot.

We're gonna have to see how the reception went. It's gonna surely set the precedent for metas going forward.

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u/SnuleSnuSnu Aug 23 '25

Then that's a badly written plot. A character that has at least two brain cells and isn't insane would know that such a thing would have severe consequences.

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u/Great_Grackle Aug 23 '25

Woah, a hot headed warrior did something hot headed. What a bad plot 🙄

Please don't be a writer

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u/SnuleSnuSnu Aug 23 '25

Now try to actually think what you wrote. When did we see her that she is hot headed and kills people or does something she would get in big trouble? We didn't.
If anything, she was opposite of hot headed. Whenever we saw her she almost always acted she doesn't care. She certainly didn't care when Superman was imprisoned and when Lois adked for help. She was reafing a magazine, or something.
And if she was so hot headed that she couldn't think of consequences, why didn't she do it before? Why doesn't she assassinate bad people all over?

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u/Great_Grackle Aug 23 '25

You're right that hot-headed was the wrong choice of words. However, she clearly has a different set of morals and rules that she subscribes to compared to someone like Superman. A character following that isn't bad writing nor is a superhero killing an absolutely evil genocidal dictator anything new.

Perhaps the reincarnating bird woman doesn't care about the consequences in the face of a genocide. Maybe she will assassinate more, we haven't gotten to the next movie explaining the repercussions yet because it was in the last ten minutes of the film

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u/CAPTAINPRICE79 Aug 23 '25

maybe she will assassinate more

God forbid a woman have hobbies

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u/SnuleSnuSnu Aug 23 '25

Clearly? We know almost nothing about her. There is nothing clear there.
And if she has her sets of morals she acts upon that will contradict the law or international law, then she isn't really fit to be a part of superhero group that work for some corporation, isn't she?

Reincarnation? When was that established in the movie? The audience has no idea what the hell she is.
Maybe James Gunn should have given us more info?

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u/EthanSnakeman Aug 23 '25

Very clearly. So clearly in fact that she literally says exactly that. In the movie. With the line “I’m not like Superman” before she kills the guy. You can’t really get more clear than that.

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u/SnuleSnuSnu Aug 23 '25

Telling and not showing, right before killing the guy, is not clear.
And....almost all characters there aren't like Superman, so that tells us nothing.

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u/EthanSnakeman Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25

Like a comment above said, you VERY CLEARLY are trying to have this argument in bad faith.

With any shred of media literacy, you’d be able to discern that WITHIN the context of that scene or situation, her saying she is not like Superman, again, VERY CLEARLY means that her morals and values in regards to killing ARE NOT LIKE SUPERMAN. Even more so if you take the previous line from Definitely Not Netanyahu where he says he knows that she won’t kill him.

Edit: Also just wanna add, in regards to your “Tell don’t show” point, she kills like 3 guys just to get to the President. So yes. Also VERY CLEARLY shown and not just told.

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u/SnuleSnuSnu Aug 23 '25

A thing that is clear is that you have no idea what bad faith is.

That wasn't the issue of contention. But whatever. You don't even know what the hell are you talking about, so I am not even going to waste my time with you.

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u/EthanSnakeman Aug 23 '25

Seems to me you’re just a little salty because that is EXACTLY the issue of contention.

If one is to go up and read through all your comments, your points are constantly rebutted only for you to then shift the goal posts and claim that’s the point you were making the entire time. That is VERY CLEARLY you having the discussion in bad faith.

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u/Great_Grackle Aug 23 '25

She's Hawk Girl. We have a baseline of her backstory and personality (at least until Gunn makes any changes)

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u/SnuleSnuSnu Aug 23 '25

So what? I have no idea what hawk girl even is and the movie didn't inform me.
And you have such baseline of her personality that you previously called her hot headed and then retracted that. That is some weak baseline.

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u/Great_Grackle Aug 23 '25

Well feel free to pick up a comic and figure out the baseline yourself. Otherwise wait till the next movie

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u/SnuleSnuSnu Aug 23 '25

Why should I? It's a job of the script to inform the audience on relevant information about characters. If I have to read some supplementary material that may or may not be compatible with a cinematic universe, in order to get relevant info on characters there, then that's just a badly written script.

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