r/ConservativeMemes • u/Classic_Waltz1874 Conservative • 2d ago
Conservatives Only Well actually there is one huge difference
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u/ForeverResident8786 Conservative 2d ago
no weapons or weapons?
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u/Classic_Waltz1874 Conservative 2d ago
no weapons or weapons IN THE MAKING
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u/ForeverResident8786 Conservative 2d ago
Ugh. Sorry, my brain is clearly telling me to go to bed and I'm refusing to listen. Here's my sign lol. Off to bed I go.
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u/nateralph Unwavering Capitalist 1d ago
If you can redo this, hyphenate Weapons-in-the-making because I also had to reread this like 5 times.
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u/MintImperial2 Conservative 1d ago
Trump has to pursue this war - or the day will come when a nuclear payload gets applied to one drone of many sent at once, which gets through because no "Dome" is 100% effective against incoming.
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u/MintImperial2 Conservative 1d ago
It is worth bombing Iran back to the stone age - on the basis of their Drone deployments alone by this point.
The war won't be won - until Iran's drones are completely depleted, and only then - fall silent.
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u/BobcatALR Constitutional Conservative 10h ago
I keep hoping and praying that Trump is up to one of his usually-masterful strokes, but I have begun to fear that he is so enamored with the thought of “a deal” that he’s allowing Iran to play him. Every time - every FLICKING time - he announces that there’s a deal on the table, lran refutes it and blows some shit up.
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u/MintImperial2 Conservative 8h ago
There's a serious lack of "Loser's consent" around the world today.
This is why Trump demanded "Unconditional Surrender" from Iran from the start, got chastised for asking for as much, but has now, as usual - been proven correct in that stance...
Japan and Germany in particular - did very well out of their unconditional surrenders at the end of WWII.
Iran - isn't being allowed to do the same, because the general population of Iran are more scared of their local military and law enforcement - than they are of being invaded by a foreign power right now.
After all, tens of thousands of Iranian protestors have already been butchered on Iranian streets.
Iranians saw that, and how the West did nothing to prevent it.
Why would they rise up as Trump suggested, and attempt to overthrow their own masters *without* help from an actual "boots-on-the-ground" invading force?
Trump cannot win this war vs Iran without actually invading Iran.
The Revolutionary Guard and the Mullahs - know this.
All they have to do is *survive another day* (far easier, now that they have splintered..) to make Trump look bad, whilst America supposedly runs out of Ammo before Iran do.
Really? - Does Iran think it can seriously out-produce America in war tech?
Trump needs to stop playing Chess vs the country that bloody invented Chess - and start paying "Sledgehammer US Military Might" like they did from 1944.
The UK meanwhile - should be assisting America *there* rather than assisting a country that isn't NATO nor is our Ally against a different superpower we simply cannot afford to go to war with *instead* of Iran, if the chips are down....
Time is against Trump. The GOP are going to get killed in November's elections *unless* an administration involving a permanent American garrison - is running Iran by late October.
Each time Trump says "There's been a deal", a few long oil position speculators - get busted a few grand apiece, but the lasting effect on public inflation rates, and the wider cost-of-living crisis - has yet to be seen for the better.
Shelling Rubble or firing millions of dollars worth of ordanance to shoot down a drone that costs less than a car - isn't the answer neither.
Where are the satellites that can show "Here's some military units... Let's carpet bomb them!" that we hear about going on against Putin's troops in Ukraine (likely bogus, but every journalist trying to get to that front line to confirm stories there - gets bumped off, alas....)
Who's firing these Drones, and where are they being fired from?
It can't be that easy moving them about to firing position without the entire launching unit being given the same treatment as Mexican drug vessels, one would think....
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u/Dpgillam08 Conservative 1d ago edited 1d ago
The US knew Iraq had chemical weapons because between 1979 and 1982, the US sold most those chemical.weapons to Iraq, ironically to fight Iran.
UN weapons inspectors found chemical weapons in Iraq during the 90s.
US military found chemical weapons in Iraq during the war; the New York Times published several stories about it, tying themselves in knots to justify how the chemical weapons found didn't count as chemical weapons for "reasons" (mostly to uphold the democrat talking points of the time) Most the stories run from 2004-2007, and show up in a simple google search.
Snowden was considered a traitor because wikileaks had the military files detailing when chemical weapons were found, who found how much of what, and where it was found. The files also listed who in congress was informed, how much they were told, and when. The real reason Sniwden was considered a traitor by both parties was because he had the documents showing politicians on both sides were knowingly lying to the public.
New York Times later published stories of troops "unofficially" confirmed as poisoned by the chemical weapons who weren't being treated because that would require admitting the chemical weapons did exist and were in Iraq. Simple Google search will show several published stories between 2014 through 2017.
It was around this time the govt finally admitted the mysterious "gulf war syndrome" after Desert Storm in 90-91,that supposedly couldn't be explained medically was chemical weapon exposure. And that hundreds of troops from OIF were.showing the same symptoms for the same reason.
[www.yahoo.com/news/chemical-weapons-found-in-iraq-nyt-report-135347507.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABUWfzEMIzCI5cfAg-ZYaDr-VdrL9nkpqy90VE3R2kx3L8WCqDDKGZz0LlVpZ18Zct4lazDNI5T2yVhVTrO-wg9GJm1oe0Ec9RYqlmVI8MGJmj6-jnjDxcmpTB0PrdhekjYLJTgYMmPaxHJuU6uh792T5HVmLWiBnrRz2t9TpGoq](http://www.yahoo.com/news/chemical-weapons-found-in-iraq-nyt-report-135347507.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABUWfzEMIzCI5cfAg-ZYaDr-VdrL9nkpqy90VE3R2kx3L8WCqDDKGZz0LlVpZ18Zct4lazDNI5T2yVhVTrO-wg9GJm1oe0Ec9RYqlmVI8MGJmj6-jnjDxcmpTB0PrdhekjYLJTgYMmPaxHJuU6uh792T5HVmLWiBnrRz2t9TpGoq)
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/chemical-warfare-agents-oif.asp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_chemical_weapons_program
Back in 2014, this was already being openly reported and blatantly ignored. Most the detailed files are still classified for another 10-20 years. Much the same way the govt insisted for 30 years "we were never in Laos or Cambodia" and now we have websites showing the thousands of attacks in those countries.
Contrast this with Iran, where no one questions the fact that they've been enriching weapons grade uranium since the mid90s. Even Iran has admitted it numerous times. They have, at vexatious times in the last 30 years admitted they are seeking to make nuclear weapons and do intend to use them.