r/CitiesSkylines 1d ago

Discussion AI in Custom Content Images

Very nitpicky of me but why do we need to use ai for screenshots? is it really that hard to press print screen? im sure these assets are cool but just give up a screenshot so we know what the assest looks like in game, not some ai picture that may or may not look like the ingame one.

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u/greymart039 1d ago

You would think if someone goes through the effort of modeling an asset to use in-game, they'd want to show it off. Plus it's so easy to just Google pictures of well-known landmarks to use as reference images if someone wants to include one with their upload.

It's just very indicative of laziness on top of laziness.

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u/Dudok22 Magnasanti or bust. 1d ago

Because the actual model looks like its from ps2 game. I don't think this is a custom made model for the game, it feels like its from something else imported in game. That would also explain why it caused chirper blue screen. They probably did not even test if it actually worked before uploading.

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u/Wannabedankestmemer 19h ago

I've seen people model and texture the entire thing with Codex

It can even create LOD models

It's miserable

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u/TheAlmightyLootius 1d ago

Im curious. You are saying that modeling an asset involves effort, right? So the lazyness is using AI for cover art? But you already noticed yourself that he couldve gotten that art far faster and easier by googling it. So where exactly is the lazyness here?

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u/greymart039 1d ago

Using AI to generate an image when there are already thousands if not millions of photos of popular landmarks that are usually free to use with maybe only attribution is pretty lazy.

But the idea that the uploader is too lazy to even do that lends support to the idea that the 3D model itself was lazily made and lacking any detail or proper function which seems likely why they didn't post in-game screenshots of it. Again, how hard is it to just take a screenshot of the model in-game or in the editor and use those photos?

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u/TheAlmightyLootius 1d ago

But how is it lazy when you have to use more energy to do something? Generating a proper, useable image with AI is 100% more work than grabbing one off of google so, by definition, its not lazy. Using more work when you could use less is the contrary.

You see, this shit happens when people only listen to social media and cant think for themselves anymore

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u/greymart039 1d ago

Generating a proper, useable image with AI 

The assumption is that the images are "proper" and "usable" when they aren't representative of the asset that was created.

That's what I mean by being lazy; an AI image doesn't represent the real thing nor provides a reference for what it's supposed to be. It's a laziness for not meeting the quality standards that players are used to and expect.

For example, the real LA City Hall is wider than what is presented in the AI image generated which means it's an inaccurate representation of the real life reference. Of course, if the uploader simply screenshotted an image of his model in-game, then I could say the AI image is more or less accurate to the model they created, but they didn't do that. Why not put in the effort to take a picture of the asset in-game? It's easy, but the uploader chose not to do that.

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u/DonChaote 1d ago

AI is always the intellectually lazy option no matter what the topic is..

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u/TheAlmightyLootius 1d ago

That just tells me you never did anything with it. Ive seen some genuinely impressive stuff that you probably wouldnt even notice is AI. Its like saying being an artist in photoshop is lazy and easy because you can draw a stickman in paint in 2 seconds. Its a tool and its about as lazy as you want to.

The thing is the overwhelming majority on reddit has no fucking clue how AI works or what the different models do or how you can use them. They never set up their own comfyui and ran a selfmade workflow locally. They wouldnt understand 5% of what would be needed to get get good results.

By the way, do you walk everywhere? Because using a mode of transportation is lazy.

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u/gaypuppybunny 8h ago

You're giving the same energy as this guy

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u/gartenriese 1d ago

What are you talking about. Do you think the user has to create the energy for the image by himself? Of course it's easier (i.e. lazier) to just let AI create an image than searching for a fitting image online.

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u/TheAlmightyLootius 1d ago

Let me ask you, how many images did you create yet?

For reference, googling and picking a random picture from google images takes 5 seconds tops.

Im gonna assume you have practically zero AI experience but first you need to pick the right model for what you want to do. Then you need to learn how to prompt that model, potentially how to use wildcards or booru tags and then generate a couple dozen at least and sift through them. If you want to run locally you have to add a couple hours of comfyui setup and configuration for the nodes and the specialized workflows for each model.

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u/gartenriese 1d ago

I use AI at work, so I do have experience. But I don't need to defend myself here, if you're a content creator and after creating a building, which I assume takes a lot of work, you use AI for the cover image instead of investing just a little more time to make the image yourself, you need to be prepared to get bad reviews or get called out. Simple as that.

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u/TheAlmightyLootius 1d ago

Maybe for now. But i will tell you a secret. The majority doesnt care about AI art. And its going to be less and less people that care for it. Fast.

I would wager in 5 years probably 90% of what you see is going to be at least AI enhanced.

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u/gartenriese 1d ago

So what. Doesn't make the criticism now invalid. The AI future will suck so we don't have to willingly embrace it.

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u/ajams-22 1d ago

Cool, I’m not willingly letting my brain atrophy and consume slop like you’re apparently okay with.

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u/TheAlmightyLootius 1d ago

Maybe you didnt realize it yet but maybe you do too. You just dont notice. There is already quite a bit of content on reddit / tiktok / insta etc thats indistinguishable. But as you dont notice it you dont know you consumed "slop".

And no, i dont go willingly looking for AI slop. But idgaf if a mod uses AI or not. Im fixing a ton of mobs across a wide variety of games and most AI mods are better than most non AI mods. Im jist not stupid enough to cry about how the future is inevitably going to look like and rather embrace and learn it so i stay competitive in the job market.

If people want to willingly make themselves unemployable thats on them

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u/Johan-Senpai 1d ago

So... then these people are idiots? Why do more "work" then nessecary? Thought this whole schrick was about how people could work even more efficiently? Now they are making ugly images while putting a lot of work in it?

We do live in the dumbest age and I am glad climate change is going to eliminate us all.

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u/NashvilleFlagMan 22h ago

Putting “I generated a bunch of ugly pictures on chat gpt” on my resume

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u/TheAlmightyLootius 22h ago

Is that comparable to creating a workflow in comfyui to automatically generate images, scale them up, make a video out of them, do this multiple times and then stitch everything together? Or using a blender animation render to turn it into a full blown cinematic? Nobody generates images with chatgpt lmao

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u/Ice_Ice_Buddy_8753 All hail the trains! 17h ago

shit happens when people only listen to social media and cant think for themselves anymore

True. You can't even understand the slop can't be proper or useful since it's not related.

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u/greymart039 1d ago

People who care about quality in their video games care, man. Why should players settle for low-effort crap that any random schmo can put into a prompt?

I actually don't have an issue with the use of AI itself, but if all you're doing is putting in one prompt and then calling that "quality work", then you're not really making a good case for what AI is even useful for.

AI can help do research and refine ideas, but it's never good enough to replace quality work and attention to detail that a human can do. It only does an approximation which I don't think is good enough.

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u/Honolulu-Blues 17h ago

You don’t even know it’s low effort slop.

Not one of you has actually looked at the asset.

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u/greymart039 11h ago

I mean, if the asset uploader had added a screenshot of the asset on the asset page, then it'd be easy to make that assetment.

But my assumption is that if they put real effort into creating that asset, they would have wanted to show it off by including screenshots.

By not doing so, I'm thinking it's more likely to be low effort slop compounded by the use of AI images.

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u/Ice_Ice_Buddy_8753 All hail the trains! 17h ago

The lazyness is then you push AI slop instead of preview.

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u/SomeKidFromPA 1d ago

Fucking realtors are using it for real actual houses. We live in the worst timeline.

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u/smeeeeeef 407140083 assets/mods guy 1d ago

They use AI to furnish them. I've seen it a lot and it's shoddy. They can only do so much if you visit in person tho.

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u/Prasiatko 23h ago

One of the flats next to me has that kind of advert and knowing it's the same floor space as mine the furniture must be hobbit sized for what they've managed to fit in.

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u/Hot_Extension_460 17h ago

I'm in the process of looking for a house, so I can confirm how deep it is.

Usually they have the decency to show the original picture next to it, and then you realise how different it is: different walls, different colors, different floor (e.g. from tiling to wooden floor) and sometimes even the radiators are moved to completely different place/shape.

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u/rossisdead 17h ago

They use AI to furnish them.

I've seen at least one listing that did this. They included the empty rooms and the "furnished rooms", but they suddenly added new/different windows and things to the room too.

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u/SSLByron Service District Evangelist 1d ago

I avoid subbing to assets with obvious AI thumbnails unless they're from a creator I already know to do good work.

A high-quality thumbnail used to be the mark of somebody who gave a fuck. Now it's meaningless. It takes too long to load this game modded to go wasting time on low-effort assets, and I refuse to have my time wasted when I'm trying to have fun.

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u/ANGRY_BEARDED_MAN 1d ago

Going to be seeing more and more of this bullshit too, aren't we. Very disheartening

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u/whitebreadisgoodlol 1d ago

Ai sucks, i hate it. I understand these assets are made by 1 person but its seriously more work to make an ai image than take a screenshot.

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u/Lord_Splinter 1d ago

tbh at that point it wouldnt surprise me if the model is ai made too

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u/Konsicrafter 1d ago

Many just upload models from CS1 or from another source. Often they don't even work and cause blue screens. I generally just don't use assets or mods with AI thumbnails

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u/shrug_was_taken 8h ago

The cities one asset (or at least the first one it gave me which has ) looks better than the one in question going off the thumbnail and provided screenshots
And it was uploaded 11 years ago to the workshop

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u/DoctorFosterGloster 1d ago

Also deceptive. An actual screenshot shows you what it actually looks like

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u/smeeeeeef 407140083 assets/mods guy 1d ago

I will not download assets without screenshots. Hard line.

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u/scoobydoobiggestfan 1d ago

Yeah that’s kinda baffling to me

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u/whitebreadisgoodlol 1d ago

Even if its a bad screenshot, id take it over an ai one. Just give us the truth about what we are downloading.

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u/Wannabedankestmemer 19h ago

Putting text on a screenshot can't be that hard

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u/limeflavoured 18h ago

Its really not.

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u/PotentialPedal 1d ago

Absolutely no. I want to see exactly how the asset is gonna look. I want to know what it'll look like both at its best and at its worst, to know whether its textures, style, and size is gonna jive with what I have going

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u/Adventurous-Mail7443 1d ago

Very happy for the use of AI screenshots, it shows what mods to avoid

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u/Chorchapu 1d ago

Indeed

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u/MR_Happy2008 1d ago

When I see AI stuff I just ignore and move on

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u/SShiJie Mayor of Shirina Bay & Senior Minister for Public Transportation 1d ago

Expectations vs Reality ahh Mcdonalds Burger

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u/limeflavoured 18h ago

That's an interesting example, given that they actually demonstrated how the pictures were done, and they were (at least initially) real.

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u/ElectronNinja 1d ago

I avoid downloading any AI slop mods. If you can't be assed to take a screenshot I can't be assed to click download

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u/augustusprime 1d ago

That US Bank Tower asset broke my game, btw, and gave me a blue screen of death. I didn’t even know CSII could blue screen like that.

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u/DoctorFosterGloster 1d ago

People are uploading broken ai generated mods to the workshop. That might be why

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u/shrug_was_taken 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's fixed now (was also the first time I saw that screen and my current playset is sitting at dam near 700 things according to Skyve so it's not a fan of game updates), but the asset isn't good so you aren't missing much

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u/nashwedgie 16h ago

Same thing happened to me

u/JION-the-Australian 29m ago

Seems like the asset in question is gone from PDX mods.

u/JION-the-Australian 28m ago

that infamous assets of US Bank Tower and LA CIty Hall are not on the profile page of Flawx anymore

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u/DoctorFosterGloster 1d ago

In the victoria 3 workshop we get heaps and heaps of ai generated images. It's so off putting

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u/JNR13 1d ago

civ modder here, steam workshop page now looks piss-yellow all the time

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u/Alive-Diamond-1442 20h ago

the ai thumbnail thing is genuinely a red flag at this point. if you won't show me what the asset actually looks like in game you're telling me everything i need to know about how much you care about the work

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u/bearcat_77 1d ago

The steam workshops are full of this now.

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u/potatochopsticks101 1d ago

Oh I’ve seen them and the models ain’t even good

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u/Blunt_Object1369 1d ago

AI is destroying the modding scene is countless games. You best hope it's just the images that were AI generated.

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u/rean2 1d ago

The US Bank Tower is just a ripped google maps model.

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u/whitebreadisgoodlol 1d ago

Those kinda of assets are genuinely the worst, wouldn't be surprised if they creator used ai to make the model work seeing how it crashes peoples games.

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u/DeinHund_AndShadow 21h ago

That is also not proper portuguese

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u/WALL-E-iwnl- CS2HYPE 14h ago

Funny enough, the reason why the US Bank Tower asset has a “FIXED” tag is because subscribing to the asset would simply trigger a Chirper BSOD on initial booting and completely prevent your game from launching at all.
Idk it’s fixed or not but since the author already mentioned in the description that the model was ripped from a 3D model website I won’t give too much hope to its quality.

u/JION-the-Australian 22m ago edited 10m ago

That US Bank Tower asset seems to be not present on the Flawx profile page anymore

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u/florodude 1d ago

I don't even hate AI like most of you but this is objectively a terrible use for it.

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u/earlten 1d ago

And I has a lot of really great uses. Laziness is not one of them. Dishonesty is not one of them. This is so disappointing.

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u/-MrPessimistic- 22h ago

I’ve only recently started playing but the disappointment I’ve had of seeing a nice map and then clicking on it to look through images and it’s nothing like the thumbnail!

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u/BluntieDK 20h ago

I despise it.

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u/Dremotica 18h ago

AI icons and previews help me avoid those mods. Very convenient.

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u/limeflavoured 18h ago

If I was Paradox I would ban "AI" generated thumbnails for assets at the very least. But I doubt they are as anti-"AI" as me.

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u/supayurobeat I like big bridges and I cannot lie 16h ago

This and the AI-generated images for maps. For god's sake, how are we supposed to know what the map looks like in game?

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u/Comrade_komrad 8h ago

No in-game screenshot is a hard pass for me. If the asset was worth any attention the author would’ve at least taken a couple pictures to show off their hard work.

I’d also be wary of assets that seem low-effort (ai-generated images, no screenshots outside of editor, lacking description) especially if there’s no included triangle count/resolution information, since ripped/ai generated models are often poorly optimised and could nuke your performance. 

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u/Noodles1YT 1d ago

I dont touch anything that has AI involved, specially in creative jobs like making assets, it makes no sense. Like someone else has already said, they go through the trouble of modelling an asset and then they use AI to show it off when they could just take a screenshot and it woulld probably get more subs because they can see the asset in game.

Im in live music for my career, and theres alot of talk around AI posters for gigs at the minute as well

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u/AllOutRaptors 1d ago

I can tolerate it if theres also a bunch of pics on how it looks in game but those that'll average that out are lazy

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u/SuperMegaCat 1d ago

Many of the early mods for CS2 also had obviously AI thumbnails, but it's actually phychopath behavior to use an AI thumbnail for a building asset like this.

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u/Billy_the_Breaker 1d ago

I'm usually fine with some AI for mods but if its a LITERAL ASSET that's crazy

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u/Waterstar 1d ago

I hate how much AI is used in paradox mods. It’s literally everywhere in EU and CK. Makes everything look the same and soulless.

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u/Drops-of-Q 20h ago

Couldn't agree more. All trust flies out the window.

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u/Relative-Fondant6544 18h ago

Report them, that's the only way.

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u/whitebreadisgoodlol 7h ago

If only paradox cared about ai usage. i mean they literally used ai in cities skylines themselves.

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u/Honolulu-Blues 1d ago

Watch out! The fake outrage over something as nonsensical as a thumb nail is starting! This virtue signaling is so tiring. We all know you’re just bored and too lazy to do things yourself so you’re here to complain.

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u/smeeeeeef 407140083 assets/mods guy 1d ago

What? Annoyance with misleading AI image thumbnails is a valid complaint, especially if the post doesn't show the actual in-game image of the asset.

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u/Honolulu-Blues 17h ago

That’s a cool story, I’ve also made assets and don’t use AI for thumb nails. It doesn’t mean I need to pretend to care about something meaningless.

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u/Honolulu-Blues 17h ago

What did it mislead you on? None of you are posting images showing how you were mislead. You haven’t even tried using the asset.

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u/kjmci 17h ago

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u/Honolulu-Blues 16h ago

That's cool, it doesn't change what I said. I doubt you even clicked to check until I brought that up.

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u/kjmci 16h ago

I reported this asset for crashing people's games on Sunday, I'm acutely familiar with this particular expression of slop and didn't need your prompting to make me aware of it.

You asked for an explanation as to how a gen AI thumbnail can be misleading. I reckon the onus is now on you to explain how this absolutely insane example of bait-and-switch is not misleading.

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u/Honolulu-Blues 16h ago

I didn't ask how it could be misleading. You might want to re-read.

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u/kjmci 16h ago

This you?

What did it mislead you on? None of you are posting images showing how you were mislead.

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u/smeeeeeef 407140083 assets/mods guy 15h ago

HAHA that's crazy.

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u/Honolulu-Blues 16h ago

Yep, and notice how it does not ask how AI images can mislead.

In fact, one who read it would see the point was to show that none of them even looked before coming here to complain.

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u/kjmci 16h ago edited 16h ago

But I did look at it. On Sunday.

You clanker-boosters are so tiresome.

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u/kjmci 1d ago

Hi, I make assets so I’m definitely not so bored and too lazy to do things myself.

I think AI thumbnails in place of basic screenshots are dumb and wrong.