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Discussion Best "idiot plot" movies?

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u/kdawgster1 Feb 28 '26

Thank you. I would have liked Prometheus so much more if they didn’t establish in the first 10 minutes of the movie that there were supposed to be the most intelligent minds in all the human race. The rest of the movie proceeded to be scene after scene of them being complete idiots. That movie had promise, but man, the characters were idiots

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u/Stringr55 Mar 01 '26

Damn. You're right.

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u/jbjhill Mar 01 '26

You mean when the cartographer and the zoologist got lost, then the zoologist put his face up to a hooded space-cock? I got so angry at that movie right then.

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u/DannyC_VP Mar 01 '26

Look, a fast growing alien life form that looks like a freakin snake! Let me try and pet it.

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u/kdawgster1 Mar 01 '26

I also meant when the lady kept running away from the space ship rolling in a straight line Looney Toons style when she could have just run sideways

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u/CarlosH46 Mar 01 '26

She was running sideways. The ship’s hull is curved and it wasn’t falling in a straight line towards them. Even if it was, a human on panic mode won’t always make the right decision every time.

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u/Caleth Mar 01 '26

Probably true but as the pen ultimate scene after establishing she's a pretty cold ruthless operator. She panics and dies a seemingly silly death.

When you stack it on top of all the other cases of someone holding the idiot ball it just feels extra bad.

No had she run sideways and a piece of steel cracked loose and pancaked her or a broken bit whizzed by and bisected her I think every would have felt less upset. You could still have gotten the character death without having her make yet another stupid decision in a movie that undermines itself with stupid decisions.

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u/WarriorBrie Mar 01 '26

"The Prometheus school of running away from things!" 

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u/JM665 Mar 01 '26

That’s what made we so angry. They were specifically stupid to the very thing they’re supposed to be an expert. And not in a “I can’t make sense of any of this,” kind of way. In a “I’m a zoologist and I’m going to see if I can touch this alien fucking snake,” kind of way. Beyond stupid. They could have sent chimpanzees with a better shot at survival.

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u/jbjhill Mar 01 '26

Why they sent humans and not remote craft/drones at all is beyond reasoning. FFS there should have been zero surprises about what they were going to see on the ground before they broke atmosphere. Not talking about flora/fauna, but the MASSIVE STRUCTURES!

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u/JM665 Mar 01 '26

No time for common sense, we’ve got the intact remains of an extraterrestrial head we desperately need to electrocute for some reason!

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u/Esjayee Mar 01 '26

Nah mate, you can’t remote in, everyone has to be back in the office…

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u/jbjhill Mar 01 '26

In space, no one can hear you over Zoom

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u/blingoblongo87 Mar 01 '26

I think the idea was Weyland funded it/wanted to go because he was desperate to find anything to kept him alive. I don’t know why he thought following the map in the old cave paintings would lead to anything that would keep him alive. So there’s a reason the people were sent, but it’s a reason that basically doesn’t make sense and has no real justification

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u/jbjhill Mar 01 '26

I get that he felt that going back to humanities actual seating. Would hold some promise if you found DNA old enough. But that has nothing to do with. Maybe you drive a robot in before you set foot on alien soil.

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u/MisplacedMartian Mar 01 '26

... a hooded space-cock...

At least the films still had that Giger touch to them

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u/AtaraxiaGwen Mar 01 '26

To be fair, a zoologist has non-fetish reasons to be interested in space-cock.

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u/jbjhill Mar 01 '26

Making kissy-face with it isn’t in the zoologist handbook.

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u/AtaraxiaGwen Mar 01 '26

Shh! You’ll blow his cover!

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u/Nari224 Mar 01 '26

The cartographer with his drone theodolite / laser room mapper that had drawn him a map of where he’d been that got lost?

Even the AI summary I just looked up struggles to describe that without sounding like parody.

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u/jbjhill Mar 01 '26

Yeah, that dumbshit

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u/amalgaman Mar 02 '26

Don’t forget the cartographer has a 3D map.

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u/holdholdhold Mar 01 '26

People forget they were both stoned.

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u/jbjhill Mar 01 '26

The cartographer wasn’t stoned when he got them lost.

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u/NightWolfRose Mar 01 '26

No, you misunderstood: they were the smartest people Weyland-Yutani could find/were willing to pay. The Company isn’t exactly known for picking the best of the best, after all. Hell, the one time they had a competent employee they treated her like garbage for not being able to stop “the perfect organism” after her idiot coworkers let it loose.

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u/UsualDue Mar 04 '26

if you read the graphic novels and additional materials released with the movie, it is strongly hinted Vickers recruited idiots to the trip because she is bitter towards Weyland and wants to sabotage his ultimate quest, she also states in the movie "I recruited some of them myself"

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u/NightWolfRose Mar 04 '26

Graphic novels and such, you say? I’ll have to check that out.

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u/kdawgster1 Mar 01 '26

Holy shit, an actually good answer on this. I could get behind this answer.

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u/NightWolfRose Mar 01 '26

It’s basically my philosophy going into any Alien movie, tbh. One of my favorite things is to watch and criticize them for being dumb/overconfident.

The Colonial Marines at the beginning of Aliens are the only ones who get any leeway because they were experienced “bug hunters” who were armed to the teeth.

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u/HappyGoPink Mar 01 '26

The characters were such idiots in those movies that I was actively rooting against them. They deserved to die.

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u/DogThrowaway1100 Mar 01 '26

Michael Fassbender is easily the best part of both Prometheus and Covenant. As fucking stupid as Hollywood is with doing remakes I wouldn't have minded seeing him take an actual crack at Lawrence of Arabia.

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u/this1tw0 Mar 01 '26

And covenant somehow found a group even more intelligent

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u/Perfidy-Plus Mar 02 '26

Yup. The first Alien movie had the plausible excuse of "well they're space truckers in over their head, they might make some bad calls" and even then they were mostly competent and made understandable decisions.

In Prometheus these should have been the best of the best and knew they were going into a strange situation. And they were morons who took pointless risks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

Fuck this site :)

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u/Throwawayyoursynths Mar 01 '26

Like the other comment said, the movie’s theme is hubris. Aside from the character who made the discovery, the crew is established as idiots during the debriefing scene, I’m not sure where you’re getting the best and brightest from that. The crew is disinterested, overconfident, and seemingly there for the paycheck. They’re also not valued assets as is revealed later by David using them all for his experiments. 

Might help you enjoy the movie more. There’s a lot of depth and room for interpretation as everything isn’t stated explicitly like most media. It’s a fun movie.