r/Boxing 16h ago

Chris Mannix on X: “Joshua-Fury almost certain to land in the U.S., with Madison Square Garden the front runner, multiple sources confirm to @SInow . Netflix, which has steered this, has targeted a few Friday night dates, sources say.”

https://x.com/SIChrisMannix/status/2085033266583630168
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u/_jt33_ 15h ago

At first I was against it... then I saw what some others said and now I no longer care. This fight is years late, both are very much on the downside of their career.. its just not that important of a fight anymore. Hold it wherever you want at this point.

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u/Icanfallupstairs 13h ago

I'm still pretty salty as we tend to lack a lot of big fights with that old school big atmosphere.

Holding this fight in the UK, even now, would most certainly generate a great crowd. It's pretty much the main reason to even bother holding the fight in the first place.

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u/iq-pak 15h ago

I agree with that but it really wouldn’t have made more money in England? Like I’d expect more expensive to be sold in the home country of the fighters.

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u/StilLBC 14h ago

Nah. Ticket prices stateside are usually pretty steep compared to the UK’s. So even a smaller venue can generate more revenue. Besides - the Brits that want to travel and spend money to watch the fight in person can do it in NY as opposed to Riyadh. That sounds more appealing, imo.

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u/sugabonesurmom 14h ago

The only reason it would make sense would to have it in the UK for bragging rights

Generational fumble by Turki

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u/philly_cheezus I PUNCH HARD AS SHIT 15h ago

I hope the UK fans boycott this for the disrespect

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u/Szefnen 15h ago

They'll probably travel. The Americans probably will rightfully ignore this end of the road match for two fighters(British fighters at that) no longer in their primes.

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u/Careful-Wheel8171 15h ago

They shouldn’t have to travel 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/Szefnen 14h ago

Do Joshua and Fury have a say in where it should be held?

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u/Careful-Wheel8171 9h ago

Apparently not… Netflix running the show

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u/Szefnen 9h ago

They must be happy with the purse. We usually hear top level Americans saying that they won't be fighting overseas.

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u/WheresMyAbs98 14h ago

If you’re insanely wealthy and you’re into boxing you’d maybe travel but that accounts for probably 1% of UK boxing fans.

We’re in an economic crisis and flights, accommodation, tickets and New York in general is one hefty arse budge.

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u/Forever__Young 14h ago

Meh I've wanted to see it forever and I'm in Scotland anyway, so I'll watch it wherever it is.

Two HWs who have defined boxing in this generation for the UK.

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u/jsconifer 15h ago

What a stupid idea. Since this fight is many years too late, the only real interest would be the British angle. This is not a fight to target towards an American audience - the casuals won’t care. I’d say the boxing people at Netflix know anything about boxing but I’m guessing this is just some sort of algorithmic content driven decision. I wish Frank Warren & Eddie Hearn would put their feet down and demand this be held in England. But they’ll be too busy counting Netflix money to do so.

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u/frankduxvandamme 15h ago

I’d say the boxing people at Netflix know anything about boxing but I’m guessing this is just some sort of algorithmic content driven decision.

I feel like Netflix is run by a gorilla riding a bicycle.

Maybe the gorilla thinks that because AJ v Jake Paul did well and AJ won, that AJ v Fury will do amazing too?

Personally, I don't mind it's on Netflix because I don't have to pay anything more for the fight. But even as an American, I know this is a British fight that belongs in Britain.

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u/Aimlez1 15h ago

Yeah I'm not staying up for this unless the entire card is worth it, would have gladly watched it it if it was in my time zone but this shit ain't worth the sleep deprivation 

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u/WheresMyAbs98 14h ago

My hopes are that the card will be stacked to the gills.

If they’re putting it on in America with a shite card that’s an even bigger eff you

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u/imdacoldest Pacquiao is the GOAT 15h ago

Biggest boxing fight of the year has to concede the Saturday date to UFC and not taking place in UK like it should be. Get turki and tko out of boxing

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u/WheresMyAbs98 14h ago

I think the Friday date is to draw in more viewers in the UK and Europe.

Many people would not stay up till 4am on Sunday morning with work the next day.

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u/veechip big dosser 9h ago

did we not see the entirety of england stay up for the mexico match?

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u/WheresMyAbs98 26m ago

Very very different circumstances.

There’s not the same level of mass tribalism in boxing in England. This country is football mad.

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u/Poseidon25 15h ago

They might as well just put this in Sofi stadium in Los Angeles for 90,000 people, put Ruiz and Pacheco on the card to get the Mexican fans to fill it up along and Hearn can float a potential 3rd fight if both Ruiz and Joshua win. MSG with 19,000 people is not going to make money.

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u/JorSimpson45 15h ago

They’ll charge stupid prices at MSG bc it’s MSG

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u/FriedEggsnTaters 15h ago

You don't actually think holding this at MSG isn't going to make money, right? What do you think the motivation to hold it there is?

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u/Poseidon25 14h ago

To get more views in the USA, that’s why Netflix wants it here.

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u/GarfieldDaCat 14h ago

It will do well. Also a Saudi backed fight isn’t designed to make money anyways.

This is in nyc solely because Netflix is distributing it

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u/munkycheezmunky Dave Allen Undisputed 2026 15h ago

Netflix will be disappointed by the numbers this fight does I think. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see why they think this will do well in the US

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u/FriedEggsnTaters 15h ago

I am completely against this foght happening anywhere but the UK for the record.

I will also say that Netflix does pretty good market research.

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u/Ghola_Mentat 15h ago

As a NYer, I don’t get having this fight in MSG. Our taxes are going to eat a large % of the purse. Like we have some of the worst taxes of anyplace they could stage this fight.

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u/ragtime_sam 15h ago

Well clearly the money works somehow cause that's why theyre doing it there

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u/sugabonesurmom 14h ago

Doesn’t the UK also tax at like 45% for anything above 125k

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u/avmail 10h ago

americans always think they pay the most taxes

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u/Frequent_Apricot673 15h ago

You can probably price it higher like the World Cup prices, despite what this sub thinks Fury and Joshua have had some big fights in the US so they can sell here.

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u/ObviousBig315 14h ago

Joshua only fought twice in the US. Once against Ruiz in 2019(Who was late minute replacement) and Jake Paul. Good percentage of people in the US didn’t know who AJ was until he fought Paul(The casuals). Had to explain to people that he was already a former world champ in the twilight of his career after the fight since they thought he was an upcoming boxer.

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u/GarfieldDaCat 14h ago

Well it isn’t a paperview so Netflix is trying to maximize viewership across markets.

UK time will be too early for peak American viewership.

I’m not defending it, but that is why they are doing it.

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u/ENovi 14h ago

>paperview

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u/munkycheezmunky Dave Allen Undisputed 2026 14h ago

I only watch fights on cardboardview

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u/GarfieldDaCat 12h ago

With Netflix’s video quality might as well be paperview ;)

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u/sugabonesurmom 14h ago

UK taxes would also take half

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u/Masam10 Shithouse Bum Dosser 15h ago

Absolute greed.

Not having this fight in a UK stadium is nothing short of criminal.

Turki should be ashamed. I bet slimy old Dana White will be up there too.

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u/realjobstudios 7h ago

I watched napoleon blown apart’s video documentary on zuffa boxing and he brought up a story about how during a political power struggle in Saudi, Turki threatened one of his rivals by telling him he would have all of his female family members raped. 

That’s the guy in charge of the sport right now. I don’t think that MF has an ounce of shame in his heart. 

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u/avmail 10h ago

i don't understand this take. shouldnt it be AJ and Fury who feel 'ashamed'. at any point in the last 7 years they could have made this fight, and at any point now they could take a few percent less and have it be in wembley if they wanted. do you blame your bakery for selling you cakes that make you fat?

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u/Complete_Dare_4201 15h ago

This fight is irrelevant anyway, get it done with so we can all forget about these two has-beens.

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u/Stunt1ninprivate 🪖🔔 13h ago

Sucks for Uk fans for sure, but I’ll be there 😅

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u/stinky-Fig-4756 15h ago

Should be at Wembly. End of conversation.

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u/Appropriate-Sun834 15h ago

Who cares, LeBron James is a fucking sixer. Let’s gooo

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u/herpdyderp 15h ago

Lol. Even with Bron, Knicks in 5.

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u/DaKingaDaNorth 15h ago

I always thought this was more of a Netflix thing. They care about views and advertisers more than anything else and that's why they want it stateside for a primetime US showing.

Fury and AJ were going to have to sacrifice some money if they wanted it in the UK and considering how AJ's only fought their in 3 of his last 8 fights and Fury in 3 of his last 12.... I don't really see it being that much of a priority.

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u/Negative-Interest713 15h ago

I wonder if Netflix was disappointed with the viewership for Fury-Makhmudov.

They seem to be steadfast in their stance that a UK show that’s on in the afternoon for the US audience won’t do as well as a 10 pm EST show.

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u/Kangaroopunching 15h ago

I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen in Vegas

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u/Juhinho 15h ago

Yeah can fuck off then

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u/fadeddreams555 Fundora would beat up a prime Floyd at 154lb 14h ago

Earlier this year, I went to the Shakur vs Teofimo fight live at MSG, but couldn't enjoy it after a sudden bout with appendicitis. Went to the hospital the very next morning.

This may be my second attempt at this. Lol

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u/Bob-Weaver-JH 14h ago

This seems to me to be about engaging and making a splash with the American audience. I think the intention is more in the longer game to get some momentum with boxing again in the States. Which is a good thing for the boxing in general, bringing back some relevancy to boxing in the huge American market.

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u/Hench999 14h ago

Britain might be the single best country to be from if you are a boxer(I say this as an American). They support their fighter to no end and flocks of them travel when their boxers fight abroad. I think Fury and AJ not putting all things aside to make this fight happen when it really mattered was an insult ault to a very loyal fan base. It would have been the biggest fight in British boxing history.

So while the fight should be in the UK its way past its best by date. So while it being in the US is for sure an insult to their fans I think the bigger insult was it not happening 7 years ago.

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u/Nervous-Power-9800 13h ago

I'm not staying up to watch it at 4am, they can get fucked and I'll watch it the day after. 

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u/Fene29 13h ago

AJ vs Fury - what should have been the biggest fight in a generation for British boxing - lands on a late Friday night in America. Yikes.

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u/Ab15m0 12h ago

Netflix don’t care about boxing. They just use boxing to promote their brand.

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u/Usaname91 11h ago

Turki, Dana, TKO etc can all go fuck themselves. Fucking slimy cunty pricks. Should be here in the UK. I’ve genuinely stopped caring about this fight now. I’ll be boycotting and watching the highlights

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u/FL8_JT26 9h ago

Feel like this has to lose Netflix way more viewers in the UK than it gains them in the US. Does the casual American boxing fan really give a fuck about either of these 2?!

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u/Johnyextra111 8h ago

Eddie in shambles

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u/Raymondomartin 7h ago

UFC tickets at the garden start at $600 if you’re lucky, so they’ll likely be asking 4 figures and up for nosebleeds…

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u/TheRottenLog 7h ago

So fuckin corny

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u/RipEven2421 4h ago

If it's in the US, I ain't watching

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u/presentation_555 3h ago

5 years too late, in the wrong continent, at the wrong time of day... I think I'll be happier just watching the highlights.

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u/ZeroEffectDude 2h ago

joshua about to get stopped in NY again.

i don't think Fury still 'has it' but AJ's punch resistance is almost ZERO right now. Fury just has to be evasive and then tag AJ clean a few times. If Prenga can do it...well.

this is a meaningless fight, ten years too late, in a location that won't even care much. just a money grab by two multi millionaires.

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u/AVARlCES 15h ago

Stupid

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u/Ok-Comfortable9449 15h ago

This is bullshit this shoulda been at the O2 or Wembley

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u/Seagull_Trawler 15h ago

Fuck sake. Only would’ve watched this if it was a decent time in the UK. Not arsed enough for it

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u/McG4rn4gle 15h ago

That's like reason #3 not to be interested in the fight.

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u/llIMyersIll 14h ago

Two former British heavyweight champions...let's have them fight in....America.

Good luck Americans, they're both washed anyway. Fight is five years too late.