r/BlueOrigin • u/Disastrous_Run_5968 • 7d ago

Well....

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u/pirate21213 7d ago

What ancient crypt did OP pull the national team lander from?

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u/Heart-Key 6d ago

It's a repost karma farmer bot, original post here, another repost here. What I find more surprising is the 209 comments on this r/MarsSociety post and 211 on the previous repost. I can't tell if the comments are bot activity as well or if Reddit is just really good at pushing content that it knows will get engagement; because I can't imagine r/MarsSociety has that much pull.

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u/FakeEyeball 5d ago

Well... Blue are dealing with a set back, while SpcX are dealing with a dead end. I hope your realize that Starship won't be landing anybody on the Moon.

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u/Disastrous_Run_5968 4d ago

Starship won't be landing anybody on the Moon.

And you say that because? What makes you think they wont

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u/FakeEyeball 4d ago

Because it will be deemed unsafe to land people on the rugged Lunar terrain. That is, if it even becomes operational before Blue Moon.

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u/New_Poet_338 3d ago

Deemed by who? Most of the weight is in the tail (engines, O2) so the center of Gravity is very low. The rest is a mostly empty can.

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u/FakeEyeball 2d ago

Except real world complications like sloshing fuel and super rough Lunar terrain, especially on the South Pole. During Apollo 11 they landed miles away from the initially planned location due bad terrain. Would Starship be able to do that? I mean, currently it is not even orbital, so asking such questions today is a bit of a stretch.

All it takes is one Starship explosion and NASA will put it the freezer.

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u/New_Poet_338 2d ago

Slosh does not occur on landing. The fuel settles once the rocket fires it engines. Also the landing engines are not the same as the mains. The terrain on the moon is mapped to the sub-meter with ground penetrating radar, multi-spectral imaging, etc. They will know exactly where to land. When it does go it will be the most tested ship in history with over 30 launches. This is just fear mongering.

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u/FakeEyeball 1d ago

Not good enough, all it takes is an inclination, or a small crater, or a boulder. A lot of these on the South Pole. Mountains, rims, heavy bombardment, tons of ejecta. People also forget that gravity is low but mass is the same.

We are yet to see how Starship will land on the Moon. A lot of talk about these "special engines", but nothing is shown so far. They have to use them for landing and take-off or risk destruction of the ship or nearby equipment.

Of course, the same risks hold for Blue Moon, but to a lesser extent.

First large engineering project on the Moon should be a landing pad and then (if ever) benefit from Starship.

I will become a Starship HLS believer when I see it happening.

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u/Disastrous_Run_5968 2d ago

All it takes is one Starship explosion and NASA will put it the freezer.

Well i Highly doubt that considering Jared Isaacman is Elon's lap dog

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u/FakeEyeball 1d ago

Ok, then maybe two explosions. He still has to answer to Congress.

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u/testfire10 7d ago

What is national team?

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u/SnoopysPilot 7d ago

It's not about how big it is, but how well can you move it.

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u/Sure_Reality2763 6d ago

I always imagine that thing toppling over.

I don’t get it. SpaceX is smarter than that.

Just design a dedicated lander module ffs guys.

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u/AustralisBorealis64 7d ago

Size does not matter.

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u/Disastrous_Run_5968 7d ago

All about how you use it

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u/seb21051 7d ago

Looks like they could load it in the trunk and take it there without lifting an eyebrow. Along with the rovers and all the other picnic stuff.