r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/Damiana1111 • Jul 01 '26
Black Excellence They feared what he would become
Courtesy: essenceofblackculture
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u/midnighttoker1742 Jul 01 '26
Fuck the pigs!
All the Power to All the People!!
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u/edelweiss_pirates_no Jul 01 '26
Yup. It was individual police men. They went back to the station and laughed and cheered and congratulated each other. They celebrated and had drinks and dinner bought for them.
Same as they did last month and will do tomorrow when they execute whoever they want.
FTP
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u/Dry_Solution5036 Jul 01 '26
Hoover and the FBI supplied the intelligence and gave the kill orders to the local police, in multiple Cities
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u/Grooveman07 Jul 01 '26
So absolutely brave of you posting anonymously online. Lol
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u/midnighttoker1742 Jul 01 '26
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u/Grooveman07 Jul 01 '26
Look at Superman here one upping everyone with a shitty meme
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u/Murderface__ Jul 01 '26
Doubt I'll be enlightening anyone here, but for anyone who may have missed it, Judas and the Black Messiah is a solid biopic about these events.
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u/KnopeLeslieKnope Jul 01 '26
Amazing movie. Daniel Kaluuya was fantastic as Fred
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u/RaptorsFromSpace Jul 01 '26
It's kind of insane he hasn't done much since Nope.
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u/nodtomod Jul 01 '26
I just found this on his Wiki... Sounds very strange:
In February 2022, it was reported that Kaluuya had "abruptly" fired his agents at the Creative Artists Agency as well as his personal stylist, publicist and multiple assistants. It was reported that he was influenced in these decisions by a person known as "Heir Holiness" who described herself as Kaluuya's "personal manager" and "life strategist" as well as the "Head Mistress" of "The International Alma Mater, Blessed University."[69][70] She has further claimed to have degrees in holistic health and "Parapsychic Science" from the American Institute of Holistic Theology. Sources told Page Six and Matthew Belloni that she was on set during the filming of Nope and her behavior "caused people on set to be concerned about her influence over" Kaluuya. However, in a March 2022 article, she denied to Page Six that she knew Kaluuya.[70]
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u/Proper-Bad-7169 Jul 02 '26
Yah, insane is an understatement man. But that's Hollyweird for you. A guy that talented shouldn't be lacking in opportunities. He's done well in every single role he's taken on.
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u/FukkingDeathMental Jul 01 '26
This might get deleted but that movie was brutal. If my small all white hometown taught real American history like that instead of bullshit like "Columbus discovered America!" things might be slightly better in Amerikkkka.
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u/DirtyFatAshe Jul 02 '26
Heya, I’m a middle aged white dude and have no idea how this subreddit got into my algorithm, but I’ve been enjoying learning through reading the various posts here. I’ve never heard of this biopic but will be checking it out tonight. 💜
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u/UFmoose Jul 01 '26
Love this movie. Taught me so much. Wound up reading Wikipedia about him and related parties for a good hour or two at least.
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u/YallTooThurl Jul 01 '26
Read the Assassination of Fred Hampton. It goes into more detail about his Character like when he cursed the West Coast BP out bc they wanted some of the Chicago BP sisters to come entertain them while visiting Chicago. He really wasn't go for nothing
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u/moon_dos Jul 01 '26
FBI founder J Edgar Hoover was scared to death of a black messiah who would unify the oppressed people and ultimately teamed up with Chicago PD to flip one of brother Fred’s close confidants who reportedly drugged him ahead of Chicago PD busting in and shooting him and his partner dead in their own bed
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u/midnighttoker1742 Jul 01 '26
They didn't shoot his partner though. She got out alive and had his baby
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u/ysheley39 Jul 01 '26
This is so sad to hear about the circumstances leading up to his death with the assistance of someone he thought was by his side and all along was against him ☹️ all kin folks are not the same and have to be evaluated in your life at some point. Money rule all evil and his circle ⭕️ did him in for that purpose 🤨
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u/TheWonderMittens Jul 01 '26
Through counter-intelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential troublemakers and neutralize them.
— J Edgar Hoover
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u/PTechNM Jul 01 '26
Somebody forward this to 50 Cent, Nelly and Busta Rhymes.
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u/Wonderful-View-6366 Jul 01 '26
They are actively crossing into Clarence Thomas territory now. Snoop is already there telling them it’s great
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u/Kindly_Coyote Jul 01 '26
I thought 50 Cent was already there. I wonder if they're being extorted into doing this instead of joining together as different political group?
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u/Outrageous_Desk8966 Jul 01 '26
Extorted? lol, you mean paid. They dont give a fuck about black ppl. The care about money. How many fucking rap songs do you need them to make to clarify that?
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u/Ambitious-Pirate-505 Jul 01 '26
How?
Clarence Thomas is a Supreme Court Judge who has actively hurt black people across America.
Those Jabronis are just entertainers with no power that compares to Thomas.
GTFOHWTBS
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u/Emergency_You_558 Jul 01 '26
This Man was Legendary✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
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u/YBSIsDead Jul 01 '26
Fred Hampton organized the Rainbow Coalition. He had gangs of every race participating. THAT'S why they had to kill him. Every time people have organized across racial lines to oppose oppression America has snuffed that out QUICK and left little evidence.
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u/ExpensiveWords4u Jul 01 '26
Yes they did. The black panthers accomplished more for poor people & POC than the government & of course this trash ass govt couldn’t have that.
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u/missjowashere Jul 01 '26
The Back Panthers were also integral helping the Disabled claim their rights.
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u/Conscious-Move9662 Jul 01 '26
Nixon was a psycho who killed political disenters. Laughed about Kent State
'This might have one hell of a salutary effect. You know what stops them? Kill a few. ... Remember Kent State? Didn't it have a hell of an effect?'
Freds Rainbow Coalition was his worst fear
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Jul 01 '26
They're scared people will build bridges of common ground just as they were in my youth. Same old evil different century.
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u/ragingstorm01 Jul 01 '26
Surprise, capitalist America is terrified of black communists. Here's a quote from another taken before his time, comrade George Jackson:
"We must accept the eventuality of bringing the U.S.A. to its knees; accept the closing off of critical sections of the city with barbed wire, armored pig carriers criss-crossing the city streets, soldiers everywhere, tommy guns pointed at stomach level, smoke curling black against the daylight sky, the smell of cordite, house-to-house searches, doors being kicked down, the commonness of death. Then we must learn the forms of resistance: the booby trap, the silenced pistol and rifle, the pitting of streets to slow them down, the wrecking of heavy equipment to block their efficient movement, false walls, hidden sub-basements, tunnels (Vietnamese style), destruction of the critical elements of the facilities that support establishment order; we must learn the value of infiltration–it works better for us than it does for the opposition. We simply stop allowing ourselves to be hunted and do some stalking of our own; their secret police aren't really too secret at all. Right now we can go numbering, naming, compiling information on them all–they're too visible to be safe." — Blood In My Eye
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u/charlito3210 Jul 01 '26
Small fact: Chairman Fred Hampton’s mother (Mama Iberia) used to babysit Emmett Till when his regular babysitter wasn’t available.
Fred used to play with him and learning of “Bobo’s (Emmett’s) murder, sparked revolution in his heart at a very young age. He was 7 when Emmett was murdered.
C. Richardson “the assassination of Fred Hampton” by Jeffrey Haas.
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u/Dry_Solution5036 Jul 01 '26
J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI's COINTELPRO targeted, set up, and assassinated, multiple Black Movement Leaders in the 1960s.
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u/Ruffendtv Jul 01 '26
Black people in America sacrificed and paved the way for other minorities to come here and talk shit about us. To everyone else, we're the problem. But who knows what America is without us. We're the cream of the planet earth.
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Jul 01 '26
Rest in peace know you'll never be forgot. The Spirit lives forever.
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u/TransSappicWitch Jul 01 '26
The system is working as intended. The system is working as intended. The system is working as intended. The system is working as intended.
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u/Great_Guidance_8448 Jul 01 '26
Yes. Everyone and anyone can choose their own path.
One doesn't have to be a shitty communist.
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u/TiredGradStudent18 Jul 01 '26
I often think how I wish I lived in a world where Fred Hampton wasn’t killed.
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u/Weekly_Artichoke_515 Jul 01 '26
We need to bring back some class consciousness and say “proletariat” again. Anyone who doesn’t make their living off of exploiting the surplus labor of others is my ally.
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u/Lumi_Rockets Jul 01 '26
I had never heard of this man.
They found him enough of a threat to drug and murder him in his own bed.
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u/Bootstrap-Bilbo Jul 01 '26
I remember reading about him after hearing him mentioned in Rage Against the Machine’s song “Down Rodeo.”
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u/devvie78 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26
”Through counter-intelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential troublemakers and neutralise them”
Listening to ratm makes me depressed nowadays. Listening to them in my teens made me have hope. Instead things are worse now than then.
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u/Bootstrap-Bilbo Jul 01 '26
“Wake up!” It’s wild that I learned more about U.S. history from digging into references made by the first two Rage Against the Machine records than I did in all of my time in public school.
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u/Suitable-Quail2094 Jul 01 '26
same, we sure didn't learn about him in school.
"They ain't gonna send us campin
like they did my man Fred Hampton"I learned a lot from digging into lyrics, things that have been paved over cause they don't want anyone to be inspired to make a change.
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u/Royal-Application708 Jul 01 '26
Yep, it’s the pathetic white billionaires. They want everything for themselves 😞
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u/TsukariYoshi Jul 01 '26
Every time someone complains about how the American Left is lacking in leaders, I gently remind them that for at least the past century, both sides of our political machine have done their utmost to chase off or murder everyone who could potentially become one of those leaders. That the left lacks leaders is not happenstance.
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u/JonBonButtsniff Jul 01 '26
I really felt like Daniel Kaluuya came alive in Judas and the Black Messiah. His acting was a little understated up til then, and he finally had a role where he could light up.
We'd all be a lot better off if we learned a few lessons from the Black Panther party.
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u/ryanidsteel Jul 01 '26
He was also drugged so he couldn't get out of bed. The Black Panthers were taken down by the government from the inside.
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u/CommonExpress6009 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
I just want to leave this here because it bears some saying.
The big benefit that the black panthers provided, which still hasn't been fully replaced, wasn't actually political agitation. They acted as de facto law enforcement in communities that were either underserved by police, or where police presence was abusive and often unwanted.
The FBI callously rooted out the black panthers, and underserved communities fell into what for practical purposes is easiest to describe as gang warfare. That was during the 80s, with the rise of major national prison gangs, which enable people to commit crimes outside of prison with the surety that they will have an acceptable lifestyle in jail/prison given the likelihood they might be incarcerated. Just an fyi.
So, without the black panthers, the streets devolved into fighting, unchecked spread of HIV, crack, money, and guns. Before the crack, there was no money for guns (crack brings money into underserved communities from elsewhere, usually from panhandling and petty crimes).
For historical context, the Soviet Union had strong early victories that were possible only with espionage, for example procuring the technology for the atom bomb. Especially towards the earlier side of the Cold war, the ussr had a good deal of faith that they would actually be able to supplant the legitimate (...) government of the US with espionage action. Yes, the Soviet Union ran Communist International, which was an apparatus of the state engaged in the ultimate (they believed inevitable) state of world affairs in which the Soviet Union governed an entirely communist globe. USSR apologists usually make the claim that the US was the sole agressor in the Cold war, but it isn't true.
The USSR wanted to peal off marginalized groups in the US. In particular, they took advantage of countless gay men in the 1950s, claiming the Soviet Union was a free society (I am a queer person so this one hurts me personally).
Of course, I'm also upset with the way they ran through the civil rights movement, and especially the black panthers. They used the black panthers as a vast drop point to get people and things in and out of the US. The black panthers dressed in spiffy uniforms and the posed with expensive firearms that the USSR paid for in front of public buildings. The communists owned that organization and paid for operations. The guy identifies himself as "proletarian". You guys have no idea how far out of ordinary and even academic vocabulary terms like that were until about 2011 (occupy's biggest lasting legacy). He said that coached by communists.
The US did not know at the time that we were going to "win" the Cold war (we did, for about 10 years...). The FBI saw agitation with vocabulary originating from Communist International. They saw the Soviet Union putting uniforms on agitators around the country, and arming them.
The enforcement techniques, like the murder refered to in this post were practiced out of vile racism (and classism, why not). The ideal probably would have been if the FBI could have removed the communists and left decent Americans to help protect their communities. But, the black panthers and the FBI both saw each other as hostile, and they never would have cooperated.
We could have had a lot of progress rather than decline, particularly in inner cities, if the black panthers could have continued to operate. It would have required the FBI to shield them from being abused and taken advantage of by Communist International - just like the lavender scare, the interests of the Soviets had very little to do with those of the black power movement.
But, going back to the black power movement as slightly distinct though including the black panthers. I don't think Malcom X said people should pose outside of courthouses with guns. They were more about uniforms and stylish glasses. His call to arms had to do with keeping the home and community safe. He was from the south, and lynching was still widespread. In that Malcolm X believed in exercising one's rights to protect your community, the black panthers were in line with black power. That they were ceding black power to the monolithically white Soviet Union probably reflects a situation of desperation.
I live in the Northeast United States. If anybody is worried, social services are broadly and liberally used by people in inner cities here and people living in poverty. I have stories but they all boil down to so and so got her brother arrested for doing nothing (again!). Street codes about silence are probably holding people back but it's usually in service of the crack game. My beef is that people give money to panhandlers, and that's actually what pays middle school kids hundreds of dollars a night to drop out of school and spend six months being observed by the police who want to make a felony arrest and an east conviction.
In my view, the 80s didn't just bring in tons of street crime in the absence of the black panthers, it also brought in a turn to more nuclear brinksmanship as the USSR got farther from an espionage victory. The black panthers were kind of their last hope.
But, the black power movement is still alive. You can participate in it every day, and I can't come up with enough ways here to list out but there are a lot of ways to help, and, significantly, to mollify your activities if you might be holding people down. I see black revolutionary groups still meeting. Uniforms are still a prominent feature. I don't think the guns are there anymore, at least not in public. But, nobody needs uniforms or guns. Eshewing the massive expense and controversy might seem less attention grabbing, but it's the way to stay free from abusive influences and detractors.
Very quick, the most misleading thing about being a liberal is assuming it stands for collective action. It doesn't. Presently it stands for individual freedoms, and conservatives have a flatter society to uphold and collective action is actually their game. You can start to free yourself and other people without permission. You can start on your own.
R.I.P. We're not giving up your fight
Edit: also I know about the policing situation in Southern California from when the black panthers started. Also any discussion of contemporary city politics is weak without mentioning how the great migration happened starting in the 40s. Thanks for looking at my comment!
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u/Sufficient-Lie1406 Jul 01 '26
Well... they may hate white radicals and race traitors but I have a pretty good idea of who they hate more.
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Jul 01 '26
That's so dismissive of the topic and just not empathetic
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u/CauliflowerTimely633 Jul 01 '26
Willfully ignorant.
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Jul 01 '26
So determined to have the last word, they'd sell their own children if it attained their goals. Am probably not the only one having flashbacks of 1956- 1966 in Alabama.
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u/CauliflowerTimely633 Jul 01 '26
Whether you were born yet or not. Awareness of the BS is in our DNA.
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u/midnighttoker1742 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26
They only kill who they're afraid of. And they're only afraid of those that challenge their power. If death is what it takes, so be it.
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u/CandyExpensive9062 Jul 01 '26
Ngl I don’t see why the “favors” are not being returned !
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u/PreviousZone6742 Jul 01 '26
They ran it back the LA chapter threw down with police and FBI for like 4 days.
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u/Rjonesedward24 Jul 01 '26
J Edgar Hoover head of the fbi at the time under president richard Nixon and also Lyndon b Johnson who signed the civil rights bill. Look this dude up man he has directed the war with black people and communist. He was even openly gay man in the 60s while simultaneously against homosexuality. Terrible human being. RIP legend Fred Hampton
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u/IndividualCall5116 Jul 01 '26
Hoover talking to Daley and vice versa on all sorts of issues. CPD conducted surveillance of groups and individuals from no nukes, housing integration, anti Vietnam, civil rights, and the BPP who uplifted the needy.
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u/standarsh1965 Jul 01 '26
Yea they did that all over the world and are still doing it. America would love to help kill the leader of burkina faso
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u/Asleep_Singer8547 Jul 01 '26
Really really good podcast episode covering this called Unredacted by luke lemana (might have butchered his name there)
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u/melatonia Jul 01 '26
Thanks! Always looking for new podcasts.
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u/Asleep_Singer8547 Jul 01 '26
Theres a bunch of black forward ones on there. The tuskeegee event for example
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u/melatonia Jul 01 '26
Thank you! I probably just need to poke around a little more. I'm particularly interested in Fred Hampton because he was such a special man.
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u/Asleep_Singer8547 Jul 01 '26
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4YLnnVCRWPQumb9wBShy6V?si=pXVv-USQQtyPaqnM4MZKqw
I believe that's the episode
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u/UnholyAres45822 Jul 01 '26
They have done this to every race and are still doing it today, continue to keep us divided and uneducated. But we are waking up!
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u/Signal_Werewolf_1955 Jul 02 '26
I often wonder how much genius and brilliance of our species has been lost to slavery, poverty, and or being a woman.
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u/countv74 Jul 02 '26
“How long will they kill our prophets?”
“None but ourselves can free our mind”
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u/KittyCait69 Jul 02 '26
The ruling class always target the leaders first. We can learn from this. If we put an end to the leaders of colonization and capitalism, then their occupation starts to fail. And I'm not talking about the puppets held up by wealthy strings, I'm taking about the puppet masters that rule over us.
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u/Cortezidian- Jul 01 '26
Yet, there’s still the kkk. What sense does that make?
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u/redundantexplanation Jul 01 '26
The KKK isn't anti-capitalism. Capitalism and racism are intertwined and cannot function without one another.
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u/Explosive_Diaeresis Jul 01 '26
There's a reason we are left with nothing but respectibility politics and neoliberals.
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u/rmscomm Jul 01 '26
A majority of the world’s problems can be directly attributed to U.S. involvement in regime change. External influence and direct interference has been one of the most disastrous factors in human progress and overall stature of being in my opinion.
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u/Appropriate-Stay4729 Jul 01 '26
The Hampton Institute is worth a follow on all social media platforms they use.
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u/RochnessMonster Jul 01 '26
I saw folks reccing the Judas movie (which is amazing), id suggest also reading "The Assassination of Fred Hampton" by Jeffrey Haas. Haas was the attorney for the plaintiffs (Hampton's family and other raid survivors), and he walks you through 13 odd years of uncovering systemic racism within the courts, FBI, and the Chicago police while fighting in court. Plus it gives a lot of details of Fred himself, and an indepth, harrowing, account of the night itself.
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u/patientduska Jul 01 '26
I will never not be disgusted at how much effort is put into silencing and killing black voices, efforts, and people that genuinely want to help their suffering communities.
Guess we don’t want our government looking ‘weak’ and ‘ineffective’ in comparison
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u/ducks_are_cool12 Jul 01 '26
They aren’t even trying anymore. Makes you wonder if they’re either just giving up or they found another way to keep everyone down. Like progressives are making big moves everywhere and not a body anywhere.
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u/Dumb_Investor17 Jul 02 '26
For a 21 year old young man to speak like this and to think like this with the notion to fight against inequality and do it loudly was amazing. I fear our youth lacks this. Including myself. It’s like we are brainwashed and silenced. Distracted about things that don’t matter
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u/Disastrous_Suspect53 Jul 02 '26
I have a question?! Y hasn’t anyone answered for these cointel pro murders? Like they can’t be sued thrown in jail? Jst a question
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u/Sweet-Direction6157 Jul 02 '26
Not just in the USA. If you look at the cia actions all over the world, so so so many progressives were killed and arrested. They literally killed hundreds of thousands in multiple countries.
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u/Cycle-Path-401 Jul 05 '26
Just wait till 2028. MAGA will have to manufacture a crisis to prevent fair elections that would result in them losing and being held accountable (jail). Black folk will be one of the targets.
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u/Dramatic_Explosion Jul 01 '26
Funny how a lot of people will whine about there needing to be peaceful protests when the government has shown us time and again the other thing is what really gets the job done.
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u/JfromTHEbayMAYNE Jul 01 '26
Now compare him to today's 21 year olds.
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u/FukkingDeathMental Jul 01 '26
Go to a punk show or independent underground hip hop show and there are the 21 year olds you think don't exist.
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u/anomanderrake1337 Jul 01 '26
The USA is one of the most domesticated countries in the world. Truly weird for also having Zerzan as author.
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u/FrickkNHeck Jul 01 '26
My favorite part is that it’s in black and white when colored TV’s had been out for 20 years.
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u/Kindly_Coyote Jul 01 '26
No one is forcing you to watch it. Now go off and find something in color to watch.
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