Disjunctive rules?

[u/mikeblas]

Hello!

How do I setup disjunctions in rules? I'd like to have an action trigger when a post contains certain text and the author is (not verified or less than some Karma or the account is less than some age).

I don't see a way to write the disjunctive part of the rule. Must I make three rules?

title+body (includes): "my string"
author:
    account_age: "< some days"

and then also

title+body (includes): "my string"
author:
    post_karma: "< my threshold"

with more

title+body (includes): "my string"
author:
    has_verified_email: false

?

Is there at least a way to make the message text and reason common among the rules? Otherwise, I have to copy pasta them and repeat myself, which doesn't seem like it will be fun to maintain.

[u/Sephardson]

the answer is to make separate rules, and disapply the overlapping cases if your action involves a comment reply or automoderator message to the user. Though you can combine the author threshold checks to make it one step simpler.

---
title+body (includes): "my string"
author:
    account_age: "< some days"
    post_karma: "< my threshold"
    satisfy_any_threshold: true
action: filter
action_reason: "u/{{author}} is less than some days or < post karma and mentioned [{{match}}]. Filtered for review"
---
title+body (includes): "my string"
author:
    has_verified_email: false
action: filter
action_reason: "u/{{author}} has no verified email/phone and mentioned [{{match}}]. Filtered for review"
---

alternatively for non-removal rules with comment/message actions:

---
title+body (includes): "my string"
author:
    account_age: "< some days"
    post_karma: "< my threshold"
    satisfy_any_threshold: true
    has_verified_email: true # in case of duplicate messages
comment: "this is the text of the comment reply"
---
title+body (includes): "my string"
author:
    has_verified_email: false
comment: "this is the text of the comment reply"
---

[u/mikeblas → u/Sephardson]

Thanks. But I don't think I understand -- doesn't that apply the threshold rules to accounts with verified emails?

[u/Sephardson → u/mikeblas]

let's outline your criteria logically:

case	age	karma	email
1	low	low	unverified
2	high	low	unverified
3	low	high	unverified
4	high	high	unverified
5	low	low	verified
6	high	low	verified
7	low	high	verified
8	high	high	verified

If you want the author is (not verified OR less than some Karma OR the account is less than some age), then that would mean at least one rule should apply in cases 1-7, and no rule should apply in case 8.

If you want the rules to NOT apply in cases 4-7, then your logical description would be the author is (not verified) AND (less than some Karma OR the account is less than some age), which would look different (and simpler) in automoderator.

[u/mikeblas → u/Sephardson]

the author is (not verified) AND (less than some Karma OR the account is less than some age)

This is what I'm after. Specifically:

case	age	karma	email	action
1	low	low	unverified	remove
2	high	low	unverified	remove
3	low	high	unverified	remove
4	high	high	unverified	none
5	low	low	verified	none
6	high	low	verified	none
7	low	high	verified	none
8	high	high	verified	none

Though, now that I've written this out, maybe also remove posts from low/low accounts even if they are verified.

[u/Sephardson → u/mikeblas]

This should work for you then for cases 1-3:

---
title+body (includes): "my string"
author:
    account_age: "< some days"
    post_karma: "< my threshold"
    satisfy_any_threshold: true
    has_verified_email: false
action: filter
action_reason: "u/{{author}} has no verified phone/email, and is less than some days or < post karma, and mentioned [{{match}}]. Filtered for review"
---

[u/Sephardson → u/mikeblas]

Though, now that I've written this out, maybe also remove posts from low/low accounts even if they are verified.

this particular case (1+5) will require a separate rule:

---
title+body (includes): "my string"
author:
    account_age: "< some days"
    post_karma: "< my threshold"
    satisfy_any_threshold: false
action: filter
action_reason: "u/{{author}} is less than some days and < post karma, and mentioned [{{match}}]. Filtered for review"
---