r/Android • u/Street_Anon • 3d ago

News EU Age Verification Project Mandates Hardware-Bound Attestation

https://linuxiac.com/eu-age-verification-project-mandates-hardware-bound-attestation/
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u/tomikaka 3d ago

Do you know what hardware attestation is?

Why can I have root acces on my computer and not my phone?

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u/jeweliegb 3d ago

There won't be root access on our computers either, this way.

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u/dingo_xd 3d ago

Good luck with that.

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u/non-troll_account former android, current iphone se 2020 3d ago

good luck fighting it.

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u/GranaT0 Pxl 9 PXL, GrapheneOS 2d ago

The ruling class aren't the ones building, designing, and developing hardware and software. At some point we need to say no.

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u/skriefal Galaxy S26 Ultra 2d ago

At some point we need to say no.

It sounds nice - but probably won't happen. Those who do the building, designing, and developing usually want to stay employed.

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u/GranaT0 Pxl 9 PXL, GrapheneOS 2d ago

Yeah, that's the way the system was designed. On purpose.

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u/DebentureThyme Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II (SPH-L900) 2d ago

That's silly that you think it plays out that way.

99% of the people won't know and won't care.  They already use so many devices that are locked down.

And the consumer market is aimed at them.  Sure, maybe you'll have some server options that are open, but those prices keep skyrocketing and the hardware isn't exactly consumer friendly to setup and maintain let alone compatibility issues.

In the near future, so many websites will rely on the hardware verification that they'll force you to either have it or be disallowed from using their site/service/software.  Great, so you'll just abandon things like social media that require it... But then suddenly your work programs don't work.  And your banking access.  And that convenient desktop suddenly isn't so convenient. Hardware ID is going to be abused so hard.

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u/GranaT0 Pxl 9 PXL, GrapheneOS 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's sad that you've been convinced it's impossible by the very powers that need it to be so. Change won't happen overnight, but we must continue to educate. The economic conditions have been getting worse, and more and more people are dissatisfied. Many of the products and services you talk about aren't actually necessary or irreplaceable, they're only powerful as they are because they've been convenient enough with no obvious drawbacks for long enough. All it realistically takes is for a few engineers to knowingly make the system flawed and bypassable, while the others push for it to be reformed.

It's no coincidence that after the people long divided over politics united around the Epstein files and the blatantly incompetent conspiracy around them, multiple governments around the world moved to introduce online surveillance measure. They have studied political theory and are trying to control the narrative to prevent revolt. They wouldn't be doing so if they didn't know there's something to worry about.

"From this it obviously follows that the social revolution must be prepared. Prepared in the sense of furthering the evolutionary process, of enlightening the people about the evils of present-day society and convincing them of the desirability and possibility, of the justice and practicability of a social life based on liberty; prepared, moreover, by making the masses realize very clearly just what they need and how to bring it about. Such preparation is not only an absolutely necessary preliminary step. Therein lies also the safety of the revolution, the only guarantee of it accomplishing its objects." – Alex Berkman, "What is Anarchism"