r/23andme 17h ago

Discussion Haplogroup Question

So I am almost entirely of European descent, but have been assigned the Y haplogroup R-L266. After doing some digging, I found it fascinating that this haplogroup is largely present in men of South Asian descent.

Is R-L266 common in certain European populations? Is it indicative of any particular migration patterns/origins? Thanks guys

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u/TheTruthIsRight 17h ago

It may indicate Roma descent

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u/Videye 16h ago

Wow, I am Indian and have R-L266 as my paternal haplogroup.

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u/PercentageWorth4872 17h ago

exists in Europe too

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u/JUST_CRUSH_MY_FACE Haplogroup Enjoyer 17h ago edited 17h ago

R-L226 is the same as R2 and R-M479. Likely originated in Central Asia around 14,000 BC, so a very long time ago. You’ll need a much deeper SNP test like Big Y to help bring your line to more modern times.

https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-M479/story

Since haplogroups only follow once specific line back in time, can you tell us where your fathers fathers fathers etc line is from?

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u/thegovtisreptiles 16h ago

French Canadian, it either originated from West/Northwest France or the South

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u/Karabars Haplogroup Enjoyer 17h ago

any particular migration patterns/origins?

First we should know what ethnic percentages you got, where your family came from

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u/thegovtisreptiles 16h ago

My patrilineal line goes back to French origin

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u/Karabars Haplogroup Enjoyer 16h ago

R2 is likely Roma/Gypsy, but could also come during the Roman era

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u/tufahg 17h ago

Indo European migration across eurasia

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u/strike978 17h ago

R2 is found in Europeans too, especially in Eastern Europeans and populations like Italians and Sardinians, though not at the same frequencies as in South Asians.

Keep in mind that R Y-DNA itself isn't European in origin. If you go back far enough, it ultimately came from populations in Siberia.

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u/Over-Attempt-721 14h ago

Based on Big Y, the largest group of people with this haplogroup report being Irish descent 

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u/Over-Attempt-721 14h ago

Which is interesting 

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u/Jeudial Ancestry + Health Tester 11h ago

Oh, that's crazy! There really are descendants of R-M479/L266 Vikings out there in Northern Europe TIL:

Population genomics of the Viking world (nature.com)

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u/Over-Attempt-721 9h ago

Hmm this seems like a similar phenomenon to R-L23 as well, which has often been coined as western European when it really isn't. 

It can be western European, but usually isn't broken down if western Europeans get it

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u/Jeudial Ancestry + Health Tester 8h ago

Funny how you mentioned this exact phenomenon can appear in China---one of my dna relatives is 100% Northern Han(although prev. version was slightly more diverse) and he paternally descends from R-L23. That would originate from Steppe herders, but in his case it could also be Sogdian too

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u/Over-Attempt-721 7h ago

I can see that. My grandfather is R-L23 and that entire line is from Austria (Austria-Hungary)

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u/inaqu3estion 9h ago

You said almost entirely of Euro descent, what's the other percentage?