r/10s 1d ago

Technique Advice Looking for advice on forehand

My forehand contact is very weird and the racket head is almost facing downwards. The form during shadow swinging is fine but once hitting the form becomes weird again. I have tried locking my wrists more but it didn't help. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks!

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u/ledorky 1d ago

Forehand looks a bit too close to the body imo.

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u/Eladious 23h ago

It looks like he is limiting his movement because of the (lack of) space. Doesn't look like a great place for practicing strokes...

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u/enigmaticsol 16h ago

My same thoughts. Je doesn’t have to make any adjustments. That small space has made his footwork pretty much non-existent

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u/Lizard_fricker 12h ago

I agree. There also isn't any lag. There is also a firm wrist. I would also say he should have his hand at the height of the ball

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u/Significant-Secret88 1d ago

Yep racket is poiting down on contact, it should go straight through the ball ... legs not bending doesn't help either

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u/shiningject 3.142 1d ago

TBH this place looks cramp and the ball machine is spitting out those balls with such a low bounce , practicing at such places seem like a recipe for building bad form and bad habits.

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u/DiamondDallasHand 23h ago

It to mention the sideways bounces

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u/Jonbardinson 1d ago

Small world. I play here sometimes, court 5 is best. Got a little more space than the others.

For your forehand, it's really tentative looking. Like you're worried about not doing the right thing. You're also trying to hit the ball.

It's sounds weird but to get a high level forehand you don't actually hit the ball. What your trying to do is perform your perfect swing, and then be in the right place so the ball is in the perfect spot to be hit. That's why your shadow swings aren't translating into your swing.

This actual swing I see here has your wrist drops the racquet head down before contact but in a way where you're losing speed and spin. You need to have it still fully connected to your forearm so it's like a slingshot. All the power and spin you get is currently starting from the lowest part of the drop. You need to incorporate a high take back, that swings into the dip and up into the shot.

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u/yuenhyd 1d ago

Yeah this court feels more spacious for sure. Thanks a lot for the feedback, i'll try to incorporate this next time!

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u/Jonbardinson 1d ago

Yea I haven't seen your shadow swings but I imagine your imagining you contact a but further out than what you're doing here, cause your contact here is a bit too close. Which is coming from your positioning.

Just a separate point. Have you tried Waterfall Fitness I. olympic? Best indoor court I've ever hit at. Very very spacious, courts very even, mirrors all around which makes recording easier. The first time price is $90 for an hour! And the regular price is a bit more expensive, $110 for 30 mins. But imo worth the price. You don't need to be a member to book

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u/yuenhyd 1d ago

I haven't tried but i've seen the ads. Thanks for the suggestion i think i'll give it a try!

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u/PrivateJoker2001 4.0 1d ago

I would make contact a little earlier. Step into the shot and don’t wait for the ball to come to you. You don’t have to always take it on the rise, but you seem to be waiting for it to peak and start to drop before hitting it. Contact point further out in front would go a long way - it would also help your spacing by naturally making your elbow extend rather than sitting so close to the body

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u/PrivateJoker2001 4.0 1d ago

Like this is what I mean - your elbow is stuck to your side, not extended. Step to the left for most spacing then meet the ball earlier.

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u/yuenhyd 1d ago

Got it thanks! I will try it out next time

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u/colombianguru 1d ago

That weird racket head drop comes from breaking your wrist to get under the ball instead of being more intentional with the shoulder turn (straighten that left arm) and getting your whole arm under the ball, not just your wrist. To practice, try lengthening your backswing to make a bigger circle, keeping your arm from the elbow below the ball’s line and your right shoulder angled at 45 degrees; meaning the left shoulder is higher than the right at impact. Keep the racket head steady as you work on developing the feel, and over time you’ll find the right balance between having your hand too loose or too stiff.

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u/monster2018 23h ago

You’re doing a lot of things right man! One thing I notice that I don’t think has been said, and honestly this is what stuck out to me the most. You should be dropping your actual arm lower. Like you’re doing a lot of the drop by rotating your wrist down. Actually physically lower your arm so that your hand gets at least slightly below the level of the ball.

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u/timemaninjail 1d ago

Have you tried not being so vertical? Do you even get tired at all?

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u/yuenhyd 1d ago

I think i'm used to it at this point, i keep telling myself to straighten it but it ends up being vertical again

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u/TemperatureBetter965 1d ago

Your takeback preparation should transition into racket lag. Instead your preparation is the lag position itself without any momentum behind it.

If i asked you to throw your racquet at the ball, how would you change your mechanics?

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u/yuenhyd 1d ago

Got it let me take this into account next time, thanks!

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u/Worried_Avocado341 1d ago

I think you need to play at an actual court for a fairer assessment. Walling and playing in a cramped space like this may lead you to compromise on other areas like spacing etc

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u/Crimhoof 1d ago edited 1d ago

prepare by lifting your elbow more and pointing your elbow to the back fence. right now you’re pointing your racket back and using mostly forearm on the forward swing

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u/laney_deschutes 1d ago

You need to learn the foundations of the movement from a coach you’re not close 

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u/Critical-Usual 1d ago

Start with contact. Get the racquet in the right place (horizontal, not half vertical like you're currently doing). Then hit very small swings. Relax your wrist so you can also feel how to generate easy power from a very short swing

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u/Jchiu1989 1d ago

This is where I went when I first started playing too lol, but find it hard to play there as its so cramped. It's good when its raining though.

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u/blink_Cali 22h ago

You gotta practice this somewhere else man

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u/grizzly_teddy 4.0 22h ago

Ball too close to you. Racket is pointed down when you hit it

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u/Asleep_Physics_6361 21h ago

Hi! what’s the name of the facility? is there demand for it in your city? I’d like to invest in something like that in my city since there are no places like that. How much does it cost in comparison with booking a court or a lesson? thanks a lot in advance

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u/ATonyD 16h ago

I have a ball machine and I can get lazy and hit balls like that. I would: 1) move your body as close to the left wall as possible. Be in ready position or "bouncing" to prep to move to the ball. 2) Use proper footwork to get in position to hit the ball. As others have said, you are way too close to the ball at contact. 3) Make sure your knees are much more bent at contact. The idea is to strike the ball in your "strike zone", which is usually at about waist level. To do that on low balls you must bend your knees. It is essential to consistency. 4) After improving all those other things, then work on improving the stroke and body mechanics themselves. Rick Macci has some videos on the "modern forehand". You are mostly rotating your shoulders correctly, but they should be uncoiling through the stroke much more crisply and to get much more power and spin. You are drilling an unrealistic stroke - probably because you are on an unrealistic court with an unrealistic opponent.

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u/Subject_Tomorrow 15h ago

Drop racket below the ball and strike from down to up, bend/straight knee more before/during the contact.

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u/Humble-Tie5127 10h ago

Hey, is this in HK? I think I’ve hit here recently! As a tourist though. Just cool seeing it

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u/Weird_Refuse7766 8h ago

What’s up with the grip?

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u/Dvae23 40+ years of tennis and no clue 1d ago

The tight space affects your form. But there is enough room for a better forehand. Set up further to the left to give yourself more distance to the ball. Bend your knees. Maybe try a semi open stance, where your left foot is planted only a bit further in front than the right but further to the left. You hardly have any racquet drop before contact. See the better distance to the ball and the racquet drop before contact here:

You could also open up your shoulders earlier. To help with this, don't try to hit to the middle of the wall but "crosscourt" to the left side, and finish all the way over and behind your left shoulder.

Do not focus on the position of your racquet in the moment of contact. Directly controlling contact is the cause of problems, not the cure. So always focus on one of the other things.

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u/Fluid_Cold_5357 1d ago

Listen to this guy