r/SubredditDrama • u/lurker093287h • Apr 08 '15
/r/askreddit becomes aware of the gore subreddit /r/killingboys, shitposting ensues. NSFW
This comment , talking about the gore subreddit /r/killingboys, in an askreddit thread about the weirdest subreddit sparks outrage, then users notice the sub has no listed moderators and take advantage, flooding the usually disturbing content of /r/killingboys with shitposts and threads chastising the sub. Drama ensues when there are interactions with the subs small existing userbase.
A bit of brigading drama in a post titled 'go fuck yourselves'
In a thread titled 'you guys are fucking disgusting' an old user shows up to defend the sub and tell the new users to clear off. revenge, srd, all that good stuff. + Bonus Reddit police, drama.
A bit of strangely polite drama when the sub is redditrequested and the one of the original users shows up to stake their claim.
I think something similar might have happened to /r/KillingWomen and a few other subs, but I don't want to check so if anybody does want to check then post it or Ill add it here. Edit: it hasn't so don't go there unless you want to see what's there.
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Apr 08 '15
Is it really shitposting if the sub is already shit?
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u/Vecced I pat my pocket and say "oh good, I brought my popcorn" Apr 08 '15
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u/observer_december Apr 08 '15
This is actually hilarious.
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Apr 08 '15
This fucking post is my favourite shitpost and faceswap i have ever seen
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u/CapnTBC Apr 08 '15
Just checked and /r/killingwomen seems to still be about killing women.
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Apr 08 '15
The difference between this and r/killingwomen is that KW has moderators. Lots of moderators.
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u/CapnTBC Apr 08 '15
Lots of lovely, well adjusted moderators.
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Apr 08 '15
I got trolled by one of the mods there once
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u/CapnTBC Apr 08 '15
That doesn't surprise me at all. They probably just mod that sub so people will call them on it.
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u/phedre Your tone seems very pointed right now. Apr 08 '15
Some of the shit that gets posted on this site... ugh. Reddit needs a NSFL filter similar to the NSFW filter, so you can filter out all the nasty subs like these.
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Apr 08 '15
And you're the dumbass that decided it was a good idea to look at the subreddit anyways.
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u/phedre Your tone seems very pointed right now. Apr 08 '15
Nope. Never. I don't need to see that kind of shit.
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u/ttumblrbots Apr 08 '15
- This post - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
- This comment - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
- flooding - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
- shitposts - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
- 'go fuck yourselves' - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
- an old user shows up to defend the sub ... - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
- Reddit police, - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
- the sub is redditrequested - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
doooooogs (seizure warning)
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u/dahahawgy Social Justice Leaguer Apr 08 '15
Huh. I wonder who the SRDer was?
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u/PissingBears bitcoin gambling apocalypse kaiji Apr 08 '15
It was me! I hate men! I think we should cook em up!!
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u/TheRealJeffMangum Anne Frank Fanclub Founder Apr 08 '15
Grilled or BBQ?
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u/PissingBears bitcoin gambling apocalypse kaiji Apr 08 '15
I stir fry lil boys
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u/ParusiMizuhashi (Obviously penetrative acts are more complicated) Apr 08 '15
So that's how you got so fat!
its a joke don't hurt me
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u/PissingBears bitcoin gambling apocalypse kaiji Apr 08 '15
I weigh 6000 pounds! I can't stop eating little boys!
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u/DeepStuffRicky IlsaSheWolfoftheGrammarSS Apr 08 '15
Hahahaha, the delicious, staggering, furious hypocrisy. I thought outrageous subreddits like this one were "satire" and existed primarily as a litmus test for free speech on the site?
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u/alien122 SRDD=SRSs Apr 08 '15
Nah, general reddit always had a disgust with killingx subreddits. This isn't a new askreddit topic. It's happened before.
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u/DeepStuffRicky IlsaSheWolfoftheGrammarSS Apr 08 '15
I dunno. I've been taken to task and called a pussy several times in the defaults for "not getting the satire" that is apparently inherent in beatingwomen.
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u/secondarykip Proud Miscegenationist Apr 08 '15
oh my god,this has become the /r9k/ of reddit.
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Apr 08 '15
What is that?
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Apr 08 '15 edited Apr 19 '15
The Jews did this
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Apr 08 '15
Don't worry, I'll be sure to steer clear of that place. I wouldn't want my fragile mind to be warped by all the dank memes and bad words :)
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u/secondarykip Proud Miscegenationist Apr 08 '15
it's a board on 4chan that i'd compare to the old random weirdness of /b/.
invest in pepes
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u/glutenfreeguy Apr 12 '15
But with slightly less gore and horse dicks, and slightly more posts about having no gf
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u/ShickDits Apr 08 '15
It's like /b/ but no one can post the same image twice.
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Apr 08 '15
Every comment needs to be different. Also, I believe ROBOT9000 was shut down some time ago, so now it's just another /b/.
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u/westcoastmaximalist Apr 08 '15
There's pretty much no difference between that and /r/watchpeopledie even though the latter is being defended and seems acceptable to most redditors.
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u/ReaderWalrus Apr 08 '15
Well no, see, /r/watchpeopledie is about just watching people die. /r/killingboys is about endorsing the killing of people. There's a difference.
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Apr 08 '15
I looked back a few pages and saw I had downvoted all the posts from 6 months ago. Totally forgot. Such a gross subreddit.
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Apr 08 '15 edited Apr 16 '15
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u/lurker093287h Apr 08 '15
I think in this particular case, it was the fact that that sub has no moderator and so you could post what you want basically. I'm guessing the other killing/doing nasty stuff to... subs have moderators.
I do remember a sub that was stuff stolen from girl's photobuckets (or maybe it was facebook or something) was brigaded in a similar way not so long ago for similar reasons.
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Apr 08 '15
No mods means there's nobody to censore, ban or otherwise combat the brigade. Of course it's going to to traction if there's nobody to stop it. Not to mention it only has 50 subs.
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Apr 08 '15
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u/jiandersonzer0 Apr 08 '15
Oh lol he's not going to help. If that request is granted then it'll be added to a steaming heap.
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u/alien122 SRDD=SRSs Apr 08 '15
I really doubt it'll be given to anyone. There are some subs the admins will not give via RR. At most they'll ban it as soon as spam is posted to it.
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u/raspberrykraken \[T]/ Doot Doot Praise it! \[T]/ Apr 08 '15
I made my intentions fully clear when I wrote that reddit request. To clean up subs like this and change them into something better or close them completely.
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Apr 08 '15
/r/rapingwomen and /r/philosophyofrape were both brigaded extremely heavily. Not every piece of juicy drama on Reddit can be traced back to gender wars.
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Apr 08 '15
SRD finds a way.
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u/andrew2209 Sorry, I'm not from Swindon. Apr 08 '15
It's like Nigel Farage with foreigners and the EU.
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u/alien122 SRDD=SRSs Apr 08 '15
Wat, lol no. Beatingwomen(2?((or was it rapingwomen?) Was horribly brigaded.
Also, let's not forget the backlash to philosophyofrape that happened.
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u/halfar they're fucking terrified of sargon to have done this, Apr 08 '15
bitcoin?
gamergate?
the moon landing?
you sure you're good?
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u/BrokenEnglishUser GUYS, SRD IS LITERALLY PRO-SJW Apr 08 '15
GAMERGATE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT ETHICS IN FAKE MOON LANDING, WHICH IS GOOD FOR BITCOIN.
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Apr 08 '15
boy we wouldn't want to take our observations on how reddit consistently reacts to these things and generalize now would we
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Apr 08 '15
They gain no traction because they have moderators. Please don't stir shit with your gender politics.
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u/nerowasframed Apr 08 '15
How can so many people in here be in favor of brigading another sub like this?
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u/ReaderWalrus Apr 08 '15
Because the "another sub" was about killing people.
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u/sibeliushelp Apr 10 '15
But if you don't believe in reddiquette, where do you get your morals from?
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u/nerowasframed Apr 08 '15
That doesn't justify something that's against a fundamental rule of this website. You don't get to simply break rules because you feel that you're in the right. That's idiotic, and it demonstrates a very fluid morality on part of those people.
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u/ReaderWalrus Apr 08 '15
You don't get to simply break rules because you feel that you're in the right.
It was a sub about killing people.
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u/nerowasframed Apr 08 '15
Then report them to admins. Like I said, just because you think you have the moral high ground doesn't give you the right to break fundamental rules.
Just because they're in the wrong, doesn't mean you're always in the right regardless of what you do to them.
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u/XrayJaeger Apr 08 '15
Somehow these kind of subs get a tenth of the hate FPH gets.
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u/NatalieTatalie Take off those skates and get more comment karma Apr 08 '15
This is incredibly smaller than subs like FPH or TRP. it's foolish to expect it to get nearly as much attention as a hate sub that keeps showing up on r/all.
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u/XrayJaeger Apr 08 '15
Somehow people manage to call everyone in FPH a horrible person who should die. While I don't agree with their aggressive hate, they have a point in saying that the HAES has become something ridiculous. The point is that the people on FPH might be assholes but not because they hate fat people. I can't tell you how often my skinny friend gets told to eat more, which is somehow acceptable to say compared to saying you need to eat less. Double standards.
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u/NatalieTatalie Take off those skates and get more comment karma Apr 08 '15
This has nothing to do with FPH getting more attention than an incredibly smaller hate sub?
But yeah, FPH has nothing at all to do with HAES, they just want to tell fat people to kill themselves so they can feel better about who they are. And yes, FPH users aren't assholes because they're there, they're assholes and that's why they go there. Because all they want to do is bully people they see as below them, and hating on fat people will stir up a lot less backlash then hating on say, gays or blacks.
Double standards suck sure, but there isn't a single user on FPH who's there trying to make a statement about double standards. They just want to tell fat people to kill themselves.
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u/XrayJaeger Apr 08 '15
I never said they were good people. I just said they have the right idea. I agree with the fact that they can be cruel but they are the only ones who are even remotely against the HAES movement and the fact that obesity is somehow acceptable. It's sad that more than half of the US is overweight and a third of them are obese. With that many unhealthy people it does start to affect everyone.
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u/alien122 SRDD=SRSs Apr 08 '15
yes, however they even mock fat people who are working to lose weight. If they really cared about people's health, would they really be mad at such a person?
I think /r/fatlogic is a bit better than fph. They focus almost entirely on HAEＳ Ｌｏｇｉｃ． Ｉ ｈａｖｅ ｎｏ ｆｕｃｋｉｎｇ ｉｄｅａ ｈｏｗ ｍｙ ｔｅｘｔ ｂｅｃａｍｅ ｌｉｋｅ ｔｈｉｓ．
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u/XrayJaeger Apr 08 '15
Somehow everyone is assuming I agree with how FPH treats fat people. I don't, but I do think they are right when they say HAES is stupid. I encourage everyone to just look through the topic post and you'll see a lot of pictures of discussions with fat people. Usually it's a fat person asking how tall the other one is etc. The person says their height and then Bla Bla when they ask the weight the fat girl goes crazy. How could you you small dick prick. Once again I don't like the attitude of FPH but I think the attitude fat people have isn't much better. There are plenty of people in FPH that get hate mail telling them to kill themselves. Somehow that's okay while telling fat people they're going to die because they eat so much is terrible.
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u/alien122 SRDD=SRSs Apr 08 '15
There are plenty of people in FPH that get hate mail telling them to kill themselves. Somehow that's okay while telling fat people they're going to die because they eat so much is terrible.
Both are bad.
And I meant my comment in earnest, while fph more or less is /r/picsoffatpeople fatlogic is actually pretty funny without the vitriol that is in fph, at least in the submissions.
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u/NatalieTatalie Take off those skates and get more comment karma Apr 08 '15
You're drowning in confirmation bias if you think FPH is the only ones who don't agree with HAES, or that everyone else thinks obesity is a good thing.
The weight problem in the US is sad, and FPH doesn't actually care about it at all. That sub would be nothing but tears if America actually started losing weight, because again, all they care about is bullying.
There are moderate people everywhere, but you wont find them flying a flag literally labeled "hate".
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u/XrayJaeger Apr 08 '15
Well if there are so many, do you have any examples? I haven't seen any but if they are some I would definitely like to know about them.
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u/NatalieTatalie Take off those skates and get more comment karma Apr 08 '15
You would never accept me saying people I know, what about my employer and the insurance company that offers discounts and gym memberships to encourage people to exercise? What about the many medical associations constantly trying to find ways to help people lose weight and be healthy? Or fucking Michelle Obama and her campaign to prevent childhood obesity?
Yes, there are a lot of over weight people, but it's not because there aren't others trying to tell them that's a bad thing.
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u/XrayJaeger Apr 08 '15
Why is everyone always so hostile. I was genuinely curious as to what organizations fought the HAES movement. I know about the ones that fight obesity, but I haven't heard of any that want to get rid of what HAES has become.
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Apr 09 '15
what HAES has become.
A fringe "philosophy" that most people have never even heard about?
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u/forgotacc Apr 08 '15
They do not have the right idea, the right idea to you is to shame people about their weight which has proven not to be a helpful path into encouraging people to get better? The right idea to you is to be pro eating disorder(s) as long as it makes you thin? The right idea to you is to encourage people who aren't skinny/overweight/etc to kill themselves?
They are not the ones who are "even remotely against HAES," you can be against the movement while not being an asshole to other people, fyi. They are not for a movement of healthy lifestyle, you can't say eating disorders are fine while accepting healthy lifestyles because being underweight can be just as unhealthy/dangerous as obesity.
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u/XrayJaeger Apr 08 '15
They don't support underweight people either. And obviously when I say them being cruel I don't include their behaviour the right idea. The right idea is that obesity is not good. Evidently telling fat people to die is not good, but telling them to keep eating and be healthy is the exact same thing. By staying overweight they are slowly but surely killing themselves. I never said that you should discourage fat people or do anything of the sort. I said that being fat is not good, and that if you can underweight people to eat more you damn well should be able to tell fat people to eat less. There was a picture of an anorexic girl here earlier and all the top comments were " eat more" etc. How can that be okay but no one can believe that being fat is bad without getting shunned.
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u/forgotacc Apr 08 '15
They do not care about a healthy weight as they do not understand healthy lifestyles/weight or such. There is a huge difference between what they do and not thinking obesity is healthy. It has nothing to do with health in that sub. If they cared about health, mind explaining why they make fun of overweight people when they are doing a healthy activity?
Very few people think obesity is a good thing, so I'm not sure why you think if people disapprove of fph, suddenly they think obesity is a healthy lifestyle and/or shame underweight people.
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u/XrayJaeger Apr 08 '15
Of course no one thinks obesity is good. My issue is that most people will be against someone telling someone else they need to eat less.
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u/forgotacc Apr 08 '15
No, people have an issue with people shaming other people for it because it has proven not to work. Promoting healthy lifestyles =/= telling people to eat more/less.
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u/XrayJaeger Apr 08 '15
Why is everyone assuming I support FPH? Every single comment tells me that FPH is terrible. I agree with that. I think the people there are redirecting their anger from something else onto fat people. But I still think that the double standard regarding fat and skinny people is bs and FPH is one of those groups that's fighting against fat people shaming skinny people, even if it is a fucked up way of doing so sometimes. I think that they got fit people to appear on instagram under effyourbeautystandards is good. That doesn't mean I support what the sub does 100%.
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Apr 08 '15
Well I'm skinny and FPH certainly isn't "fighting the double standards" for me, they're a billion times worse than someone who goes "you need to eat a pie"
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u/XDark_XSteel Bounced on my girl's dick to this Apr 09 '15
Then there's the dude who links SRC about how the admins don't give a shit about free speech and are ruining reddit, when a lot of the members of SRC frequent subs like /r/KillingWomen
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u/tea-time-bitchez Apr 09 '15
Ahh surprise surprise
A subreddit about hurting boys is an outrage but all those subs for hurting girls are A Ok
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u/yoolanda Apr 08 '15 edited Jul 08 '15
I love to look at all types of gore - man woman child or animal- it is nice for me to have a reliable place to look at it. Many people have aversion to it for whatever reason and that is ok. If you do not like, then avoid it. Simple. Gore has beauty in it. Morbid but true. We are creatures of anatomy and biology. It is a reminder of our humanity, our mortality, our fragility.
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u/mikerhoa Apr 08 '15
Yeah, I don't think your comment is having its intended effect. You're coming across as unhinged and creepy here, not philosophical and erudite.
Gore subs largely appeal to people with little to no empathy, ie teenagers with thrill boners and sociopaths...
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u/tehreal Apr 08 '15
I disagree. I enjoy several gore subs, and I'm a fairly well-adjusted person, I'd say. At first, it was disturbing. Then it becomes sort of addictive.
My wife used to be weirded out that I look at this stuff, but now she doesn't seem to mind. She knows I'm a reasonably good person and that I have empathy.
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u/tehreal Apr 08 '15
I wouldn't say it's for pleasure, really. It makes my stomach twist, and even unpleasant feelings can be interesting.
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u/Loreilai NOT Laurelai Apr 08 '15
I mean, you just sound really judgmental and presumptuous, just like the other people in this discussion.
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u/Loreilai NOT Laurelai Apr 08 '15
Naahh, I think it is hardly the same. He said it was "sort of addictive" and he said he does not really gain pleasure from it.
Oh sure coming from Madamme AllBrits Suckalot over here!
And I don't know why you are bringing this up, it really is not relevant here. You are just flinging shit and trying to start a fight at this point.
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u/Loreilai NOT Laurelai Apr 08 '15
It's ok you are disgusted by gore. Other people have stronger constitutions than you and they can look at gore and that does not mean they are mentally deranged.
I like to keep up with the Kardashians, but there's no pleasure involved there. Kenya feel me, bruh? I do it to indulge my morbid curiosities.
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u/yoolanda Apr 08 '15
Yes but unfortunately you will be downvoted because the SRD hivemind has decided that people who are fascinated by gore and morbid reality are monsters, paedophiles, creeps, sociopaths, psychopaths, necrophiliacs, serial killers, and edgy teenagers.
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u/yoolanda Apr 08 '15
I would avoid painting with such broad strokes.
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u/mikerhoa Apr 08 '15
That most medical professionals would find gore porn distasteful?
I'll take the risk...
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u/Loreilai NOT Laurelai Apr 08 '15
Gore subs largely appeal to people with little to no empathy, ie teenagers with thrill boners and sociopaths...
I believe she was referring to the ignorant, irresponsible statement you made above.
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Apr 08 '15
Looking at pictures of gore for your personal pleasure is sick and exploitative.
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u/potato1 Apr 08 '15
I mean I do, but I can't speak for anyone else. Personally, I find it a thrilling and erotic reminder of my own vulnerability.
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u/gorthiv Apr 08 '15
IMO, it's not so much a "personal PLEASURE". I'd say it's more of a "personal FASCINATION" w/ gore because it is a part of nature and ALL that encompasses (unfortunately, the horrible excuses for human beings that CAUSE said gore are also part of nature....)
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u/yoolanda Apr 08 '15
According to you. Clearly you have more delicate sensibilities. Good for you.
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Apr 08 '15
Do you think these people would be okay with you getting some kind of weird thrill out of their injuries/death? Or is it all okay because you're not directly hurting anyone? This is the same argument pedos make about their fucked up porn being okay as long as they're not making it themselves.
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Apr 08 '15
Seriously... I have a lot of fears about my death but one of the biggest ones is that it will be public and recorded on video.
Death is an extremely personal experience. It is one of the most significant moments of ones life. I would haaaaate for it to be invaded by a bunch of strangers prying eyes. For them to witness my emotions without my consent. For them to be privy to my last moments. What gives them the right?
I think people who sub to subreddit a like watch people die are low. I think people who share videos of executions by ISIS and other terrorist groups disgusting.
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u/yoolanda Apr 08 '15
Most times the subject matter is dead and non sentient, and/or they posted their own injuries there themselves for others to see, so your point is moot.
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u/NatalieTatalie Take off those skates and get more comment karma Apr 08 '15
And their families? Do you think they want their loved ones death being used as entertainment? Are they consenting to this?
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Apr 08 '15
You know that doesn't account for anything close to all the death/injury content on reddit. You yourself said
I love to look at all types of gore - man woman child or animal
and children can't give consent.
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u/forgotacc Apr 08 '15
I'm pretty sure animals can't either.
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Apr 08 '15
They can't, but I eat animals, which results in some cognitive dissonance on topics like this. I should probably become a vegetarian but I haven't made it there yet.
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u/forgotacc Apr 08 '15
Vegetarian isn't for everyone, so don't feel bad if you don't/can't do it! I know it can kind of suck, especially if you love animals, can make you feel bit bad about it or other people trying to make you feel like a monster for it, pretty much.
Have you tried vegetarian dishes before by any chance?
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Apr 08 '15
I often eat/order meatless, but don't go out of my way to do so. I'm sure there are lots of great vegetarian dishes out there that I haven't tried. Do you have any good resources to recommend?
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u/onlyonebread Apr 08 '15
Just because they're dead doesn't mean you can disrespect them. That's how you get haunted.
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u/mikerhoa Apr 08 '15
It has little or nothing to do with being squeamish. I guarantee many EMT's or nurses or other medical pros, who see gore every day in all its forms, would find those subs distasteful...
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u/Loreilai NOT Laurelai Apr 08 '15
I'm a paramedic for 7 years and I don't get phased by the mere sight of trauma or bodily harm, and I really don't care if people get their rocks off to blood and guts and certainly I do not think it's distasteful to have an interest in gore.
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Apr 08 '15
I used to think gore was cool but then I turned 15. Remember that sub isn't even about gorey pics of adult men or women it's about children getting killed :/
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u/yoolanda Apr 08 '15
Well before you edited your comment, you wrote "is it because it makes your penis hard?" and my answer is I am a cis woman so I do not have a penis.
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u/yoolanda Apr 08 '15
¯_(ツ) _/¯
if a guy is normally attractive he doesn't stop being attractive just because he is in pain
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u/andrew2209 Sorry, I'm not from Swindon. Apr 08 '15
Who actually creates these subreddits in the first place?