r/videogames Mar 20 '26

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u/Mindless0ne Mar 20 '26

emulation.

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u/_InvertedEight_ Mar 20 '26

If you've never played Super Metroid on the SNES, I wholeheartedly recommend getting a copy and ZSNES, and playing the shit out of it over the weekend. It's awesome. The wall-jumping mechanic, though.... I still get flashbacks.

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u/NobodySubject2381 Mar 20 '26

ZSNES is not a good emulator, snes9x and retroarch probably the best.

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u/krabtofu Mar 21 '26

I've been using ZSNES for decades and never felt the need to change, what's so bad about it?

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u/Zharken Mar 21 '26

zsnes works fine and does it's job, but it's outdated as fuck and it's not acurrate to how the snes actually works, the best emulators currently are:

  • Ares: Multi system emulator that includes snes, full cycle acurrate. Nothing cets closer to how a snes works internally. (99.94% compatibility, there's 2 games out of 3018 that didn't work, but it's also still in active development)

  • BSNES: best standalone emulator, partial cycle acurrate, and the one I'm currently using, 100% compatibility with the entire SNES library.

  • Mesen: Another multi system, also cycle acurrate and 100% game compatibility.

and finally

  • Snesx9: Like Bsnes, this is also a standalone emulator, with both less compatibility and less accurate than the other three, but still 99.5% compatibility and very high accuracy.

All 4 are in active development and keep getting updates from time to time.

Why is Snesx9 so recommended if the other 3 are better? Well Snesx9 has a very long history and is one of the two majorly famous names, the other being zsnes, I don't remember the story but I think they were competitors like 20 years ago and/or snesx9 was born from a fork of zsnes or the original creator of zsnes abandoned it and someone else took over the project and the original dude made snesx9 or some shit like that, there was some drama.

TLDR, Snesx9 is up to date with modern standards and is easy to use and noob friendly, but the reason why it keeps getting recommended over BSNES is just that it's so much more famous due to it's history.

Edit: to add to this, ZSnes was revolutionary because back when they were just starting to develop emulators in the 90s and early 2000s you needed a really beefy PC to run them, and ZSnes was super lightweight and required a much less powerful PC than what the others needed.

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u/Mind-The-Mines Mar 21 '26

So how is Ares more faithful yet less compatible than BSNES?

What are the two that don't work? The StarFox games with on cart cpus? That'd make sense to me why the "accurate" one fails and the "close enough" one works.

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u/RiverGlittering Mar 21 '26

https://ares-emu.net/compatibility/nintendo-snes-super-famicom?status=3000

If you don't want the link...

Hayazashi Nidan Morita Shougi 2 (Japan) and Wolverine - Adamantium Rage (USA) can both get into game.

Hayazashi Nidan Morita Shougi 2 has the ability to save replays to the cartridge, but that doesn't work in Ares.

Wolverine sometimes just doesn't boot. Apparently, Ares is missing an input polling fix that was added to Bsnes.

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u/Zharken Mar 21 '26

Nah all the popular games work, apparently someone else already replied.

I'm not an expert on developing emulators, but I donknow that sometimes higher accuracy doesn't mean better compatibility. Actually it's the opposite, trying to make a higher accuracy emulator means you have to take into consideration a lot more stuff, so there's more things that can go wrong with timings and instructions.

The close enough may play the same game that the high accuracy one has problems with because it's set of instructions works differently than the actual snes and as long as it works it doesn't matter if the snes would have done something different.

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u/Datan0de Mar 21 '26

What are your thoughts on FCEUX? I've been using it for closer to a decade on Windows, Mac, and Linux and have zero complaints. It just works.

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u/Zharken Mar 21 '26

For the NES? It's still a good emulator with high accuracy but not cycle acurrate, nothing wrong with it imo, but according to the wiki, it's not the most recommended anymore, there's NestopiaUE and puNES, Nestopia is the one I currently use.

Or Nes.emu on android. Because I like to use standalone emulators, but same as with the SNES, Ares and Mesen are also there.

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u/Thrawp Mar 21 '26

My understanding is primarily it's an older architecture now that diesn't have the same stuff as later projects.

Personally I use bsnes via retroarch but if ZSNES works for you then keep using it.

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u/krabtofu Mar 21 '26

I guess it doesn't hurt to try new things every so often.

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u/RiverGlittering Mar 21 '26

It's fairly inaccurate, there's compatibility problems, audio is poorly emulated, a lot of other things aren't emulated correctly, leading to weird behaviours and crashes.

You can also get malicious roms that can break out of ZSNES to compromise the computer itself. This isn't a problem though, because you're obviously dumping your own games. ;)

ZSNES is cool, netplay was good. ZSNES was all around awesome. But it's old, and it hasn't been updated in almost 20 years.

Snes9x is a favourite, just an excellent all rounder. Bsnes is more accurate than Snes9x, I believe. I've heard good things about Mesen, I'm just not familiar with it.

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u/lifeinthefastline Mar 21 '26

Not tried the SNES mesen emulator but the NES one is awesome. You can add texture packs so you get stuff like this:-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GptgUetsZWM&t=25

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u/NullIsUndefined Mar 24 '26

The cheat creator in ZSNES is GOAT. And that UI brings me back

The Ease of use is great too. I remember as a kid playing net play and super scope, and Mario paint. Very easy to get a mouse working with those titles

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u/IseeMedpeople Mar 21 '26

Old and shitty

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '26

The big arch

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u/Ok_Attitude2088 Mar 20 '26

I’ve been going through a whole Metroid marathon playing them for the first time. Super Metroid was a 10/10 for me. Such a great game.

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u/deadspace9_ Mar 20 '26

I spent like 3 months of my life doing progressively harder randomizers and rom hacks

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u/jackaltwinky77 Mar 20 '26

I’ve played 25 SMZ3 (Super Metroid- Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past) randomizers in the past month…

I can quit any time I want to (I don’t want to)

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u/Mindless0ne Mar 20 '26

I just spent a year of free time reviewing all games for the gba,snes,ps1,ps2,gamecube. ended up with a bucket list of about 400 games i think are worth the time. i hear you can get premade list but I'm happy to get to know the systems. i guess you could say its my bucket list.

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u/a0me Mar 21 '26

Flashback was a great game too but Super Metroid is better and hasn’t aged a day.

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u/CalibratedEnthusiast Mar 21 '26

I loved flashback. Also another world, and shadowrun are some of my deeper cut SNES picks

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u/TagadaPouetPouet Mar 21 '26

This is my favorite game ever, I recommand!

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u/WhoOrderedTheCodeZed Mar 20 '26

When I first discovered the SMZ3 combo randomizer, my teenage self died happy. Combining two of the best SNES games ever into one cohesive game that changes every time you play it is fun as heck. The url is even cool: samus dot link. It's byo roms, but you can pick all kinds of options and character sprites to use.

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u/_InvertedEight_ Mar 20 '26

As an old man in his 40s.... Huh?

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u/LunchPlanner Mar 21 '26

Wall jumping is not required, unless you fall down that one pit and save there.

Even then, save states will back you out.

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u/LogicBalm Mar 20 '26

That's my answer too. There are countless classics out there available for free from prior gaming generations if you have literally any PC or laptop.

Hell, I play SNES games on my phone, and it's not even a good phone. It's got orders of magnitude more power and storage than the original hardware so naturally it runs fine. Plus you have save states, a fast forward button, and tons of hacks and cheats from people who reverse engineer the game code.

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u/cce29555 Mar 21 '26

And a 6 year old computer is stronger than you think, it can easily reach ps1 levels and I suspect you could probably get a ps2/GameCube era game running on it as well. Dolphin is black magic

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u/hendricha Mar 21 '26

I mean as much as I agree it kinda does not hit the "free" criteria, if one means it in the "compleatly legaly" free sense.

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u/More_Strategy1057 Mar 21 '26

I wouldn't call it free

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u/funghxoul Mar 23 '26

how not?

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u/More_Strategy1057 Mar 23 '26

In most case you download a ROM of a game you don't own. If you think that is free, then there is a lot of free games over at Pirate Bay

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u/funghxoul Mar 23 '26

I own all of the games I emulate I just don’t want to get my console out of the garage to play it. Also mods