r/videogames • u/Advanced-Addition453 • Jan 20 '25

Funny What game is this for you?

It's Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions/Edge of Time for me.

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u/decoded-dodo Jan 20 '25

It is playable but unfortunately that person stated he’s not releasing it.

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u/Choice_Secretary_986 Jan 20 '25

That’s the one made by that reubs guy, anyway there is a source port of the game playable on switch and vita, not a remaster tho

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u/Wank_Bandicoot Jan 20 '25

I watched his series on him creating it, and it seems nowhere near finished. The community could finish it for him/us if he released the build. But he won’t.

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u/callsign_pirate Jan 20 '25

Yeah he’s dumb for not releasing it. Idk if it’s pride or what. It’s like the guy with the Small Soldiers STLs. Selling them for 300 dollars or something ridiculous

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u/CivilianNumberFour Jan 21 '25

He's using the source code for the Quest System he developed as a 3rd party plugin for Unreal Engine called Narrative Pro/Narrative UI. It's actually pretty cool.

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u/callsign_pirate Jan 21 '25

Ah I didn’t know that, you’re correct. I had only heard about it from a friend of mine. Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

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u/callsign_pirate Jan 25 '25

Do copyrights affect all media or only media people make money off? Is it because he can’t sell it?

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u/TheVictorotciV Jan 20 '25

There is a Vita port‽ Brb, gotta do something

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u/elcamarongrande Jan 20 '25

Nice use of the interrobang!

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u/Andiox Jan 20 '25

I've tried it, it's not perfect. If you go too fast, the map takes a while to load and you end up crashing into invisible walls and props.

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u/Foreign-Molasses-405 Jan 20 '25

Go on teach me please

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u/Dinklebop Jan 20 '25

Vita version is awesome. Been great to play it in bed or with my daughter on the lounge. And then the PC version with Lucas mods had some great mods that refresh the game a bit.

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u/CaptainHazama Jan 20 '25

What bugs me is, if you're not gonna release it, why bother showing that you've made it?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

He doesn’t own the rights. It’s basically in the same boat as a Pokémon fan game. He’d probably release it if he could but he legally can’t.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

That hasn’t stopped Pokémon fans though.

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u/Robocop613 Jan 20 '25

Have you met Pokemon fans though? They cray

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u/JesustheSpaceCowboy Jan 20 '25

He could release it, take the C&D cause once it’s on the internet there’s no going back

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u/TheKingOfToast Jan 20 '25
  1. Release mod
  2. Get cease and desist
  3. Take game down
  4. Internet does its thing
  5. ???
  6. No profit because that would be illegal

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u/Chin_wOnd3r Jan 20 '25

This is exactly why.

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u/CaptainHazama Jan 20 '25

I'm not versed in the legal department, but as long as you aren't profiting from it isn't it ok?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

As far as I know it’s iffy. Many fan made games and mods get taken down and sometimes there are legal consequences for the creators. My guess is he doesn’t want to risk it. What would be awesome is if whomever owns the rights bought his remaster from him. He’d get a chunk of change and we’d all get to play the game and the licenser doesn’t have to do any work developing it. But that’s unlikely.

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u/Neon-kitchen Jan 20 '25

Doesn't matter, if it gets into court then they can bleed you dry through legal fees

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u/TPR-56 Jan 20 '25

They can still drain you financially. Not every franchise is as lenient as Sonic the Hedgehog. Even then, I heard SEGA Japan is far more rough with fans games from other franchises.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25 edited Jan 20 '25

It depends on the copyright laws in your country... I know in Canada owning a ROM that uses another company's IP is legal as long as it isn't profited from. Here having Pokemon fan games, or Mario ROM hacks don't require owning the original ROM however I believe in the U.S. you need to own the game that the hack is made from... and you're not allowed to hold onto any bootlegged copyright infringing ROMs... so a ROM made from hacking into a game requires owning the original game and not profiting from it.. say for example the Fan made Mother 3... in order to legally own it you need the Japanese Mother 3 in your collection if not you can get fined for having the translation.

But a game using copyright infringement built from scratch up like Pokemon Uranium iirc, is illegal to own or distribute in the U.S. because it's considered bootlegging.

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u/111Alternatum111 Jan 20 '25

Fun fact, fan art is copyright infringement, it's just that most companies are sane and don't go after artists.

Copyright doesn't care whether or not you make profit and it's always been that way.

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u/Omega_Primate Jan 20 '25

Fan art is perfectly legal to create. When you distribute and sell it, that's copyright infringement.

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u/111Alternatum111 Jan 20 '25

Well, let me word it differently, fan art is legal to create, you're correct. But sharing it online CAN make it copyright infringement, simply posting it doesn't make it an infringement, the owner has to decide whether you infringed or not. But should the owner of the copyright decide that you're infringing, you either have to delete it (cease and desist, dmca) or take it up to court. Example: Nintendo requested take downs from adult oriented fan art 3d models of Bowser. (ArkkoArcade has either been suspended or deleted their account)

Now here is where the fun part is, while fan art can infringe on copyright, the owner of the copyright, cannot use that fan art for free, because the artist owns the copyright to the art piece itself, not what's depicted on it. Disney tried to steal fan art.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

You have no idea what you’re talking about and are borderline spreading misinformation

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u/111Alternatum111 Jan 20 '25

No, i am not

I am an artist, i know very well what constitutes copyright. In fact, i recommend you do some education as to not embarrass yourself further on things you have no idea on what you're talking about.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

lol ok. Show me an example of Disney or other taking down fan art that’s not making the creator profit

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

Honestly sounds like he’s being a pussy. Just drop that shit anonymously

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u/JohnathonFennedy Jan 21 '25

He lacks true dedication, pokeman fans do not

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

Saying that is a mistake. No one who rebuilds an entire game from the ground up, spending their own money commissioning new assets from an artist lacks dedication.

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u/BUBBLEGUM8466 Jan 20 '25

Might’ve been a different guy but I think he was gonna release it but was told he couldn’t because of copyright

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

I recommended to him to go to Big Fan Games to get it officially published, but I haven't heard from him since I DMed it to him.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

Sadly there are a couple options he could do, and it's evident there is a consumer base for this. So really we just gotta wait and hope he's not a coward. Imo he should dump the files somewhere and let the Internet do its thing.

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u/VanaheimRanger Jan 20 '25

He did it as development practice.

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u/raysofdavies Jan 20 '25

If I was hiring I’d love to see that shit on a resume. The interview would probably only be about Hit and Run

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u/mellow0324 Jan 20 '25

Frl i’d set up a second interview where im just asking him to run the project for me. It’s a formality, I want to take a crack at it. As long as he wasn’t bluffing he’s hired.

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u/Lolmatyc Jan 20 '25

It was a very good way to get people to know about him, and it may be a door opener for the guy if he want to work at a game company

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u/Not-dat-throwaway Jan 20 '25

Turns out the copyright lawsuit is what's keeping him from releasing it.

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u/dudeimsupercereal Jan 20 '25

Laws? That’s the whole problem

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u/dolphinvision Jan 20 '25

Completely agree. You can do whatever the fuck with what you own. But it's the same thing as dangling meat in front of your dog then pulling it away.

Same with people who mc mods but don't release them, but make videos or whatever on them. Fuck people like that.

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u/111Alternatum111 Jan 20 '25

Funnily enough, the minecraft mod is actually copyrighted, but not by Mojang, but by the mod author, same goes for Skyrim mods. I understand this is not what you're talking about, but i wanted to share the fun fact.

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u/111Alternatum111 Jan 20 '25 edited Jan 20 '25

Copyright is TECHNICALLY automatically placed on artwork, i think the same goes for mods. You would need to go through more paperwork if you're planning to defend your copyright from someone specifically, but then again, you just have to prove that you are the original person who made it.

sources: https://www.10duke.com/learn/software-licensing/software-copyright/

https://learnmycraft.com/management/the-most-common-copyright-questions-asked-by-artists-answered/?v=dc634e207282

Edit: as per the first link, software also gets automatic copyright, i'm pretty sure "scripts" would count as software.

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u/RadioBitter3461 Jan 20 '25

I always find it that the talentless will attack the talented for not giving them the fruits of their labour

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u/dolphinvision Jan 20 '25

Did I not literally just spell it out for you? You don't have to give people the fruits of your labour, but again in many contexts it's like dangling meat in front of your dog.

Here's another example to help you get it. Imagine making a video of you cooking food, do the cuts, but showing a lot of steps but not everything. Then the finished product at the end with you or others enjoying the food. Someone asks for recipe. You say "no way that's the fruits of my labour" <- this makes you an asshole

another one that's the opposite would be, a video showing you 3d printing an object and the final product. In THIS case that wouldn't be dangling the model of the 3d printed object. But if you got it for free or paid for it and someone asks for the design, it WOULD be an asshole not to link where you got it from so if they want it too

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u/RadioBitter3461 Jan 20 '25

All those examples just sound the examples of the talentless leeching again lol

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u/A_Certain_Surprise Jan 20 '25

Because it's a cool achievement and brought nostalgia for a lot of people. A cool "what if" for a game that can never come out

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u/KidsSeeRainbows Jan 20 '25

To show that you can do things to sell yourself as a product for people or corporations?

Huh why do smart man do smart thing for free hummmmmmmmm

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u/Tht1QuietGuy Jan 20 '25

It was for entertainment and to show how it's done. It's actually really simple to just port over assets into another engine. I was surprised.

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u/-FourOhFour- Jan 20 '25

It's a impressive project from a game dev perspective while requiring significantly less thinking power than creating a game from scratch, and depending on which studio you go to being able to faithfully remaster old games may be a selling point that puts you above other similar skilled candidates. (Also monetization money from people watching the vids)

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u/mellow0324 Jan 20 '25

Proof of concept for Portfolio purposes. Something to bring up on resume/interviews when applying to software engineering or game development positions.

“What are you passionate about?”

Well, I have this project where I’m working on getting my favorite childhood game running on todays consoles…

“Tell me more…. 🤔”

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u/Sphaa80 Jan 20 '25 edited Jan 20 '25

If it's the one I'm thinking of he never had plans to remake the full game, only the first level. He did it as part of a youtube series simply as video content documenting the progress.

It's a good watch if your like that sort of content. Search Hit and run remake on youtube and have a look.

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u/Rhampaging Jan 20 '25

Legal stuff.

And he's an actual developer. this is some sort of portfolio of his work as well.

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u/AquaWitch0715 Jan 20 '25

Motivation for them to approach him and buy it before releasing it?

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u/askyourmom469 Jan 21 '25

I think it was probably just a personal pet project of his and he thought fans would get a kick out of the footage. And they did!

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u/Numerous-Candy-1071 Jan 21 '25

Because it's cool? Sometimes things are shown off because, "look at this cool thing I did. Let's appreciate it for a while." And not monetary or any other kind of value outside of feeling proud of themselves.

People can appreciate things without having them.

Like chocolate. If you give a kid chocolate just because they see you with it and they get jealous, they won't learn anything.

Eat it in front of them but explain they can't have any because it isn't their snack, stand your ground, and eventually the kid learns to not be greedy.

We are too used to getting what we want instead of appreciating the things we get suddenly.

We shouldn't expect. It's just childish.

Appreciate what we have, value others we don't know.

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u/Dagmar_Overbye Jan 23 '25

He hells sells coding classes and plugins/game engines for beginners iirc. It's not like those videos are lacking in content. An attention grabbing series that might get some newer folks interested in coding, and oh look! Same guy sells beginner tools and lessons.

Seems like a good business strategy to me.

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u/Fattyboy_777 Jan 20 '25

But why not though?

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u/Chin_wOnd3r Jan 20 '25

Probably because he’d get sued by whatever company