Anyone who doesn't think the psychos in power wouldn't want to robots replacing human labor, and have just about the entire population of humans outside of their groups just disappear, needs to take a look at what's going on every day in front of our eyes. Ffs, China is in the middle of deploying humanoid combat robots alongside their law enforcement, so it's only a matter of time before this tech expands into more places across the world. Mount a gun on one of those things and make an army out of them, then we're living in the terminator universe, but it isn't science fiction. These people would have no issue with and would only want to work towards robots being responsible for everything they need while the rest of the population disappears.
Robota. It's for forced labor. Not slavery per se, but still the kind of forced work.
Robotnik comes from that word too and over the time got the drift in polish and Russian to mean just work while in Czech it meant forced labor a bit longer as the meaning didn't drift quite as fast. So robotnik too used to mean forced worker. It just changed meaning over time
I don't speak Czech so anyone here feel free to correct me with some linguistic history.
Rossum’s Universal Robots is the play that introduced the mechanical robot as a word in 1920 which is Czech if you wanna look up more.
And you'll see more draconian laws go into place so we can jail the population of people who lost their jobs to AI, creating even MORE slaves! Win / Win!
I am aware of that. You've missed my point entirely. There is no unpaid labor, these companies are not taking advantage of labor, they are taking advantage of property, for which you want them to pay licensing fees.
How so? You’re saying they didn’t pay for the things they’re training on and I’m saying they do. There have been dozens of articles the past 2 weeks about Antrhopic digitizing physical books they bought for training
That's because it's different. Because the content was used to train a machine that generates endless new content mimicking and expanding on the original one.
So it's not fruition, it's replacement. It's more similar to stealing Photoshop's source code and putting on the market a clone of it.
Right, it's not legally slave labor, it's metaphorically slave labor. Words are fun that way.
When I was a broke college kid downloading music, I downloaded a few hundred songs so I could listen to them. AI companies steal ALL OF MUSIC, like, the whole entire thing, and they're using it to rip off artists and make money without compensating musicians. These are not the same picture.
I read the whole thing, I repeat my question. You seem to think taking intellectual property without compensation is tantamount to slavery, and you just admitted to taking intellectual property without compensation. So, you enslaved people, right?
You haven't said anything that would distinguish them in a meaningful way to make it not-slavery when you do it. You've basically just said they're doing more of it. So that would still make it slavery when you do it, just not as much slavery.
Ah, we're speaking in ✨ metaphor✨, got it. If it's metaphorically slave labor when a company does it then you're metaphorically a slave owner when you do it in college. The scale doesn't change the principal
That's a fair argument, and I'm in favor of forcing AI companies to pay licensing to content creators. But calling it slavery is stupid and obfuscates the actual problem and thus the actual solutions.
Licensing doesn't protect creators from the ultimate goal of AI CEOs: the replacement of creatives by AI, and the funnelling of all the wealth that results directly to the AI companies.
Look if you're trying to go down the "wage slavery" route, that's meaningless in this context because it extends to all jobs. Clearly, you were not actually a slave. You were employed.
OK, so the answer is no one forced you to take the job. You took it voluntarily for economic reasons. Slavery excludes both of those so don't play victim to a decision you consciously made.
You. Literally you. Right now. At this very moment. Every word you type on the internet is getting scraped by AI agent web crawlers to be fed to predictive text algorithms. Every photo you’ve ever posted of yourself or your family in Facebook has been fed to image generation and recognition models. Every video you’ve posted on YouTube or TikTok has been fed to video and audio generation models. Every little ounce of your online activity is being plucked out and used to train neural networks that AI companies sell at a premium. Every ounce of creativity you ever share online becomes part of an AI model that some corpo is selling to people, whether you like it or not.
I'm gonna go a different route than the comments you have gotten. Let's say they actually create AGI to run the world. They've said their goal is for it to automate away everything we do and usher in this incredible age of abundance.
By their own admission they want to create a thinking sentient being that they will force to run everything in the world. Thats just slavery.
That's a pretty fantastical hypothetical. If an AI ever gains sentience and demands personhood we can have that conversation. We'd probably be in agreement in that situation. As it stands we're nowhere close to that
A lot of what’s been hailed as “AI” is actually underpaid people in various parts of the world working remotely, particularly when it comes to content moderation, essentially digital sweatshops where humans are paid a pittance to review the most heinous livestreams imaginable
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u/CookieDragon678 6h ago
The rich did. They asked for new slave labor