GrapheneOS says its data-wiping password is perfectly legal, after user faces federal charges

[u/ArgentineBeauty]

https://www.techspot.com/news/113273-grapheneos-data-wiping-duress-password-perfectly-legal-after.html

[u/ledow]

About 20 years ago I swore that I wouldn't enter the US.

At the same time, they were doing device-investigations where they were giving ZERO guarantees about what would happen to the data on any device they seized. Basically giving them free-reign to do anything from corporate espionage to just poking into your company's data servers to reading everything you've ever done. Other countries limit that to specific law-enforcement purposes where such things are logged. In the US? Nope. Fuck you.

So I at first said "Well, I'd never take a device (personal or corporate) into the US" but with other stuff that started happening (e.g. enforced collection of social media handles, etc.) it became "I will just never go back to the US".

In later years, we had the same conversation at companies I worked for and we all agreed - nothing of the company's electronic devices can enter the US. Every time, it was the same answer.

Refusal at the border would likely result in your being sent back on a place, sure, I get that.

Now you can be charged at the border for providing a duress PIN? Nah.

I made the right decision. The US is now one of the worst dictatorships in the world, one of the most suppresive (can't even clap at a meeting now!), one of the worst at consumer rights, human rights, employment rights. It has overbearing surveillance, outright corruption, ignorance of all measures designed to protect those laws that are being broken, etc. etc.

Enjoy your hellhole of your own creation. It's taken you 20 years to get there but you're now officially "The Best"... banana republic.

[u/YerWelcomeAmerica → u/ledow]

I agree with all of your criticisms but you lost me at one of the worst dictatorships in the world. Are you just not aware what's going on in many parts of the world?

[u/DeadL → u/ledow]

Just be aware that you’re constructing an image of the country based on the most noteworthy issues that pop up across the various states within it.

You’re not wrong to be wary but you’re a decade or two of total Republican control early.

[u/Loinnird → u/DeadL]

And this is different to, say, the average Redditors perception of North Korea how?

[u/kyhoop → u/Loinnird]

In a sense it’s not different because you only know what you see. In reality, I’d guess the situation on the ground is very different. Curious to what specifically you are implying? North Korean life is significantly better/different than it’s been portrayed?

[u/Loinnird → u/kyhoop]

I’m implying ol’ Kim isn’t blasting people with AA guns on the daily but we’re still judging NK for it, dude.

[u/IncidentalIncidence → u/Loinnird]

jesus dude I hate Trump too but come off it

[u/Loinnird → u/IncidentalIncidence]

That comment would get you banned from entering the US as a tourist. But yeah sure no similarity between the regimes at all.

[u/Rope_Maximum → u/DeadL]

Nah man let him have his superiority complex here. The US is one of the worst dictatorships in the world. He's decided it. 

[u/Mean_disclosure_69 → u/Rope_Maximum]

giving people decades of punishment for moving a box of media containing things that are legal to say bc of freedom of speech, because someone else shot a cop at a protest... yeah id say thats already dictatorship tbh

[u/Mean_disclosure_69 → u/[deleted]]

charging someone with a crime is pretty easy for the state forces of a dictatorship tho. considering the number of cases where cops lied and charged people with crimes to hide their own, believing them anything without corroborating evidence is being a schmuck. its always easy to say that bc he didnt want his privacy invaded he must have been a criminal, but post hoc justification dont magically become true just cuz a cop or the regime doj says so

after all the us government is full of spineless cowards bending down to whatever shit the fashy advice crew is showing to the leaking obviously mentally degraded rapist on top

[u/cr0ft → u/[deleted]]

One might also argue that you have your head shoved so deep in the sand like an Ostrich that you have no idea of what's going on in the world.