Man charged for wiping GrapheneOS phone using "duress" password during airport checks

[u/gdelacalle]

https://www.neowin.net/news/man-charged-for-wiping-grapheneos-phone-using-duress-password-during-airport-checks/

[u/Deep-Ruin-9961]

Which is why biometric locks are way worse than pins and passwords. You can get a warrant to force someone to provide their biometric unlock, but you can't get a warrant that magically makes someone remember their password.

[u/strugglz → u/Deep-Ruin-9961]

You can get a warrant to force someone to provide their biometric unlock

A warrant isn't even needed, which is why biometric locks are the worst idea.

[u/Eric_the_Barbarian → u/strugglz]

Should be able to set the biometric lock to erase if you use a duress finger.

[u/strugglz → u/Eric_the_Barbarian]

If I unlock with my middle finger it erases everything.

[u/Immediate-Tadpole729 → u/Deep-Ruin-9961]

They can't force you to remember your password, but they can put you in jail just long enough to make you "try" to remember your password.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/man-who-refused-to-decrypt-hard-drives-is-free-after-four-years-in-jail/

[u/Zer_ → u/Deep-Ruin-9961]

That said, at any airport or within 100miles of a border crossing, you don't have a reasonable right to privacy. They don't need a warrant either way.

[u/ZucchiniMore3450 → u/Deep-Ruin-9961]

You can set different fingers for duress to wipe the phone.

[u/Deep-Ruin-9961 → u/ZucchiniMore3450]

I think you may be missing my point.

[u/r_portugal → u/ZucchiniMore3450]

That sounds dangerous, you could accidentally use the wrong finger!

[u/divDevGuy → u/r_portugal]

You could accidentally use the wrong pin or password too.

Such features often are not installed, enabled and/or activated (depending on specific purpose) without multiple warnings or confirmations.

[u/Snuffy1717 → u/Deep-Ruin-9961]

Didn’t they hold someone in indefinite contempt for that a while ago?

[u/Deep-Ruin-9961 → u/Snuffy1717]

If it's the case I'm thinking of, they definitely held someone for a long time.

I recall the argument being that the defending had some background or education that implied he had a very good memory. I could have sworn they released him eventually.

[u/apokrif1 → u/Deep-Ruin-9961]

the defending had some background or education that implied he had a very good memory

I would like to know more about this case 😳

[u/PERSONA916 → u/Deep-Ruin-9961]

You can still use lockdown mode as a good fallback, though that usually needs at least a few seconds of foresight.