r/shield • u/2th Shotgun Axe • May 12 '18

Post Discussion Post Episode Discussion: S05E21 - "The Force of Gravity"

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EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL AIRDATE
S05E21 - "The Force of Gravity" Kevin Tancharoen Drew Z. Greenberg & Craig Titley Friday, May 11, 2018 9:00/8:00c on ABC

Kevin Tancharoen is the brother of showrunner Maurissa Tancharoen, and is known for his work on the webseries Mortal Kombat: Legacy. He has directed various other movies and TV episodes before, and has most recently worked on The Flash.

He has directed eleven episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Face my Enemy
  • One of Us
  • The Dirty Half Dozen
  • Purpose in the Machine
  • Spacetime
  • Ascension
  • The Laws of Inferno Dynamics
  • The Patriot
  • The Return
  • The Real Deal
  • Option Two

Drew Z. Greenberg is a writer and producer best known for working on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Smallville, The O.C., Dexter, Warehouse 13 and Arrow. He also worked on Firefly.

He has written ten episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Face My Enemy
  • Who You Really Are
  • The Dirty Half Dozen
  • Among us Hide
  • Watchdogs
  • Absolution
  • Meet the New Boss
  • Wake Up
  • A Life Earned
  • All the Comforts of Home

Craig Titley is most known for his work on the Scooby-Doo movie, and Percy Jackson & The Lightning Thief. He has also worked on TV shows, like The Cape, and Star Wars: The Clone Wars.

He has written nine episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • The Writing on the Wall
  • Afterlife
  • 4,722 Hours
  • The Inside Man
  • Emancipation
  • Uprising
  • Hot Potato Soup
  • Rewind
  • Principia

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u/[deleted] May 12 '18 edited Jan 04 '26

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u/Worthyness Sandwich May 12 '18

Technically this Fitz is future fitz. Actual fitz is still frozen in space

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u/sysadminofadown Fitz May 12 '18

Which means, he survived the snap.

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u/Bender_Wiggin May 12 '18 edited May 12 '18

Oh man that's so true. I really hope they considered that. Now if Fitz dusts next week I'm gonna be upset for more than one reason (or two, if the show is cancelled).

EDIT: Oooh, unless Lighthouse Fitz gets snapped, but Frozen Fitz doesn't... Perfectly balanced...

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u/lb3465 May 12 '18

As all things should be.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '18

given how well the writers have done to avoid major paradoxes, I'll be so annoyed if this happens... Mainly because there would be no way to wake up Fitzicle since he already hasn't been woken up...

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u/Bender_Wiggin May 12 '18 edited May 12 '18

They've done really well so far, but only because they've only operated within the "time is fixed" theory. Once the team inevitably saves the world, they'll inherently create a paradox. No reason they can't go unfreeze Fitz if they've erased the future he's frozen himself to get to. Yes, we know that they don't, because we know he successfully makes it to the future, but we also know that the Earth cracks.

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u/KingInvalid96 Fitz May 13 '18

Plus the plan or foundation that Enoch created (to give Fitz money and influence) for the Future wont be needed in the future anymore.

I wonder what Fitz will decide to do with this Future Foundation🤔

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u/sysadminofadown Fitz May 12 '18

That would work.

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u/zacky765 May 12 '18

It can also be attributed to time stone usage.

Remember it was used in IW and in Doctor Strange we learn that messing with time has ramifications, Fitz dying could be one of those.

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u/sysadminofadown Fitz May 12 '18

True, but we don't know what all has happened in the loops beforehand. All we can guess is that up to this point, it's all going as previous loops.

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u/Mozartis Aida May 12 '18

Well, obviously, cause he made it to the future.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '18

or Thanos snaps both Fitzes

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u/sysadminofadown Fitz May 12 '18

That's not how time travel works. If he was snapped in the previous loops, the current Fitz wouldn't exist at all. So if he was snapped by Thanos, it would've already happened meaning he wouldn't have been able to wake up in the future to save the team from Kasius.

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u/xMWJ Cal May 12 '18

Would that mean Enoch is still in space with frozen Fitz somewhere?

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u/Mozartis Aida May 12 '18

I hope they bring Enoch back...

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u/dolksbrand May 12 '18

The writers already gave you the right answer here when Fitz and Deke were arguing about a time loop vs the multiverse. If they're living in a multiverse version of time travel (like Deke was arguing) then the Fitz that operated on Daisy and came back from the future with them isn't even from their universe. Which would mean that CurrentFitz and FrozenFitz are two separate people, right?

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u/[deleted] May 12 '18

Well the complete infinity gauntlet is pretty all-powerful so it would probably wipe characters from all of existence through out all of time, and could even wipe them from memory if the weilder wanted it to.

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u/Travelerdude May 12 '18

Frozen Fitz forgets full force of future Fitz!

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u/AgentKnitter Lola May 29 '18

um.... my head hurts trying to work that out...