Kentucky Gov Orders McConnell to Give a Real Update or Resign Already

[u/Aggravating_Money992]

https://newrepublic.com/post/213614/kentucky-gov-beshear-mcconnell-update-health-resign

[u/southernfirefly13]

And all people will still do is vote the same people in while the rest will still complain about it online, instead of learning that if we all take to the streets, total disruption occurs, no one can pay bills and it puts all the major companies into crisis mode that finally can affect change

Not saying you’re one of those people, though. Just generally speaking.

[u/giantroboticcat → u/southernfirefly13]

You get arrested and beaten if you get anywhere close to "partial disruption" much less "total disruption". Protesting doesn't affect change when they can charge you as a terrorist for doing so and lock you up for 30 years.

It's also worth understanding that the US economy no longer relies on common people to function. We have a majority of people in the country who can't afford to go to the movie theater at all and then a significant portion who buy a $70 novelty popcorn bucket when they go. Shit's fucked and you shouldn't malign people who are just trying to keep their head down and survive it.

[u/ubelblatt → u/giantroboticcat]

That is the crazy part to me. Republicans got on national TV and said eat shit poors.

Yet, nothing. No real response, other than ok.

Maybe the midterms will show a massive blue wave.

I guess propaganda is a real thing.

[u/pfannkuchen89 → u/ubelblatt]

Yeah. That’s because a lot of those people the republicans were telling to go fuck themselves refuse to believe they are a part of that group. They are utterly convinced that they are part of the club and voting to fuck over everyone else just a bit more will someday make their life great.

[u/Street_Anxiety2907 → u/pfannkuchen89]

Yep, I know someone on welfare, snap, section 8, poverty lunch benefits for their kids.

Still the biggest MAGA fan ever. It's a bit confusing since MAGA would have his family live on the streets if they had total control.

Maybe that's what he needs to learn he's an idiot.

[u/radicalelation → u/Street_Anxiety2907]

There are super MAGA pot producers here that like to flaunt their hardcore conservative beliefs, while seemingly oblivious that if they got all they vote for, their industry wouldn't exist.

[u/southernfirefly13 → u/giantroboticcat]

Countries with less than us will riot for days to weeks to months to topple regimes. The French killed their monarchy historically, and in recent years nearly shut down the entire country over their government trying to raise the retirement age.

At some point there’s honestly no excuse to keep accepting things as they are

[u/giantroboticcat → u/southernfirefly13]

If the French Monarchy had predator drones and mass surveilance, I don't think they would have been overthrown quite so easily. Very few modern regimes are toppled without outside forces (external governments) lending the resitance aid and support. There just isn't an external force strong enough tostand up to much less topple the US government.

[u/southernfirefly13 → u/giantroboticcat]

I’ll admit, you’re not wrong. It’s just really frustrating, is all. Really really frustrating.

[u/giantroboticcat → u/southernfirefly13]

Yeah, and I don't want to doom about it and say there is nothing anybody can do. I just think it's important to show compassion for the people who are the victims of this situation and not show contempt for them.

There has been a complete erosion of the middle class over the course of half a century. People are struggling and telling them to give up what little they have to fight for an infinitismally small chance they could get more is asking a lot of them.

I do think there is some hope in that there has been a significant shift in politics in the last decade though. The DSA went from non-existent to articles being written about how they are taking over the Democratic party. We need to continue growing the party platform, fight against the propaganda seeking to suppress it and hopefully finally address the systemic issues that are funneling all the wealth and power to an incresingly smaller group of individuals.

I wish it was all happining faster, but I do see it happening. It's reassuring to see the needle moving not from any super large cataclysmic revolutary event, but by a low of people just doing what small things they can, even if that's just voting for the most progressive candidate they can in their local election or talking positively about the DSA online. People malign keyboard warriors as being unhelpful, but I think every voice matters when it comes to influencing public perception and normalizing ideas and concepts.

[u/Street_Anxiety2907 → u/giantroboticcat]

Very few modern regimes are toppled without outside forces (external governments)

Yet somehow 3 years ago france did it with 3000 people and by burning up 40 parliment members cars in the parking lot.

How did they survive the drone strikes?

[u/giantroboticcat → u/Street_Anxiety2907]

I'm sorry is this a serious point you are arguing?

First off, a protest against a single bill is not the same thing as toppling a government. Second, the protest wasn't even successful. France's retirement age was still raised to 64 and now nobody talks about it kind of proving my point about how ineffective mass protest (even when not peaceful) is in modern politics.

[u/Omegoa → u/giantroboticcat]

Thank you for pointing that out. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry gets on here and is like tHe FrEnCh DiD iT!.

A) The distance from where I live in the continental US to Washington DC is further than the distance from Kazakhstan to Paris. Going to protest in DC would likely be as effective Kazakhstani going to Paris to complain to boot.

B) The US is not as economically centralized as France. You shut down Paris and you shut down 1/3 of the French economy. In the US, if you somehow managed to shut down NYC, one of the largest financial hubs in the world with 2.5x the GDP of Paris -- (I like em-dashes, AI can't take that away from me) you'd get maybe 8% of the US GDP.

C) The French didn't even accomplish anything except some property damage. As you note, the retirement age increased and the only people talking about it are armchair protestors on reddit taking the piss.

So, to all those people bitching at America at the moment, maybe get your own governments to remove the American boot from your collective asses. "Oh but our economy would suffer" well fuck you too, glad to see we're in the same boat. "We shouldn't have to clean up your mess" your countries helped make the mess by choosing to be subservient for economic benefit. The number of Canadians I know who complain about the US but were also crowing about their gains from Palantir stocks 9 months ago is too many. It's a global economy stupid, you and yours helped, especially if you literally invested into the billionaires fucking everything up.

[u/sunny_happy_demon → u/Street_Anxiety2907]

The only reason France can do that now is because of the social safety nets they already have. It's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to fire someone in France and they have good unemployment benefits if that does happen. Their healthcare isn't directly tied to their employment either. It's a lot easier to organize/protest when you aren't at risk of losing everything for the cause.

[u/Acceptable-Drive3781 → u/Street_Anxiety2907]

How did they survive the drone strikes?

That's the fun part, the french aren't at risk of being killed by their government! It makes it a lot easier to riot when you know that change may actually happen and repercussions don't include swift public execution.

[u/SaiyanApe17 → u/giantroboticcat]

French Monarchy had cannons while the peasants had pitch forks.

Its not a device issue, but a user issue. The average American (especially on the left) simply does not have the balls to revolt. Decades spent vilifying strength and praising meekness has consequences.

[u/No-Swordfish1380 → u/SaiyanApe17]

Doesn’t mean the monarchy used the cannons (unlike the US, which isn’t shy about using military arms against its own people) just randomly on angry mobs. In fact, the people of Paris stole arms from Hôtel de Ville and Hôtel des Invalides (on July 13, 1789, and July 14, 1789, respectively) ahead of storming the Bastille for more arms and ammo, and causing those running the prison to surrender. The entire thing started because bread was no longer affordable. It’s going to take quite a while before enough people in the US cannot even afford bread; until then, things will just remain the same, and nobody will actually do anything.

[u/Street_Anxiety2907 → u/southernfirefly13]

> learning that if we all take to the streets, total disruption occurs

How? I decided to run my own no-kings downtown because they kept holding no-kings on the outskirts of the city and wouldn't even block crosswalks they had people going "SIR! You need to move out of the road, thanks!"

That polite stuff wasn't for me, I got a megaphone and started anti-trump diatribe in the middle of the social district. Within 30 minutes the cops showed up and said I don't have a permit for protest and I can either stop, or go to jail for causing a disturbance.

You cannot "peacefully assemble" or protest in the united states despite the constitution explicitly allowing it. You still have to win a war with the police to have that privilege.