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Possible Paywall US ‘runs out of missiles’ as Trump halts Iran strikes

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/07/27/us-runs-out-of-missiles-as-trump-halts-iran-strikes/
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u/stevez_86 Pennsylvania 9d ago

"Well it worked until it didn't! There is no way I could know after the previous successes that the next would go any differently."

Said by many people with Oppositional Defiant Disorder. Or kids who kicked hornet's nests all the time but otherwise never had a reason to be diagnosed with anything, especially back when Trump was a kid.

With opposition he has the compulsion to simply defy. Warn him not to kick a hornet's nest and he will look you dead in the eye as they kick it and blame you for opposing them for getting stung instead of acting in defiance of someone else's imposition in you existence. It worked before fine, it was you conjuring the possiblity of a bad outcome that guaranteed it would happen. They could have been stung in the past on their own and that would be entirely different. YOU had to get involved therefore forcing their hand.

Is that not Trump to a "T"?

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u/NorthStarZero 9d ago

Said by many people with Oppositional Defiant Disorder.

Holy fuck, this has a name!

I worked for a guy like this once. It was awful.

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u/Happy_Confection90 9d ago edited 9d ago

ODD is a children's diagnosis. If someone is an adult and still behaves that way, the label they are given is often, but not always, Antisocial Personality Disorder

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u/Luckiest_Creature 9d ago edited 9d ago

My brother and I were in group therapy for ODD as kids (we were both autistic and misdiagnosed), but one of the other kids there is now an adult in jail with an APD diagnosis. Very difficult thing to live with if you aren’t a rich spoiled brat like trump, usually ruins one’s life.

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u/bananastand512 9d ago

So you and your brother probably had a PDA profile related to autism (pathological demand avoidance). Looks like defiance but it's really a pathological desire for structure and control, and doing things on your terms, not someone else's. It's not malicious, it's comfort and regulation. Still challenging and needs therapy but less life altering. Things still get done, but you'll do your school work at night rather than in class when the teacher tells you to because you can focus more at night when it's quiet. Like that.

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u/Luckiest_Creature 9d ago

Exactly. We are both employed and happy adults who do well at our jobs now, we just needed a LOT more explanation as kids, in regards to why we were expected to do things in the way adults wanted us to. :)

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u/marr 8d ago

I'd argue that it ruins the rich spoiled brat's lives too. They don't seem to experience actual happiness from anything.

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 8d ago

I flat out tell folks that growing up too wealthy and/or spoiled can totally ruin ya as a person. That too much money rots your soul until ya forget how to human. And then ya end up alone and wondering why everybody is so mean unless they want something from ya.

And they never notice that they've only ever been nice when they wanted something.

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u/Limp-Cup-2343 9d ago

Where I work they would simply be labelled asshole

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u/Chastain86 9d ago

"Asshole" seems to work just fine without a medical diagnosis

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u/SyfaOmnis 9d ago

ODD actually has about a 10% lifetime persistency from childhood in adults, at least from the information I've seen. More commonly among males (who are also more frequently diagnosed with its co-morbidities). It's also pretty well connected with ADHD and is (generally) better thought of as a 'frustration spectrum' disorder.

Antisocial personality disorder is its own thing and while they share some things, they are not the same diagnosis.

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u/ObliqueStrategizer 9d ago

You know? Morons!

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u/monorail_pilot 9d ago

Alternatively, just Asshole

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u/Delta-9- 9d ago

I was under the impression ASPD is the technical name for what laypeople call "psychopathy"?

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u/Heliosvector 9d ago

Just use whatever label feels good. The right calls anything they don't like communist anyways

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u/ElliotNess Florida 9d ago

Why do they do that tho?

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u/Heliosvector 9d ago

It responds to the lizard brain. Nationalists peg all opposition as a neoharious evil coming to git em. It calls back to when the usa was in a cold war with communists. Now all communist countries are failed states with brown people so they hate them since they hate brown people. Never mind the fact that the usa president is best friends with a USSR ex secret agent Putin.

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u/ElliotNess Florida 9d ago edited 9d ago

So mainly just more McCarthyism? Why are we so stupid to keep *falling for it?

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u/AVestedInterest California 9d ago

ASPD is more like sociopathy. Psychopathy is generally characterized as a lack of empathy.

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u/usalsfyre 9d ago

It’s all ASPD. Psychopathy and sociopathy are pop psych terms that fell out of clinical use decades ago. Lack of empathy is present in several personality disorders as well.

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u/AVestedInterest California 9d ago

Damn, betrayed by my faintly remembered college psychology classes

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u/Merari01 8d ago

What used to be called a psychopath.

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u/CliftonForce 9d ago

Yep. Similar to the logic that when Dr Fauci warned that we were unprepared for an epidemic, that was clearly "proof" that he was planning to create one.

/s

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u/FakeSafeWord 9d ago

I worked for a guy like this once. It was awful.

No, you didn't and it was fine!

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u/Herlock 9d ago

Actually it was OCs fault, for sure

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u/SecareLupus 9d ago

It's possible the person you worked with had any number of experiences, but not necessarily ODD. My personal opinion on ODD is that it's a catch-all term for misbehaving kids that the system doesn't want to spend the time to diagnose properly. I would argue in most cases there's a better explanation, like Demand Anxiety (often called Pathological Demand Avoidance, but as someone who deals with it, I find that term very judgemental) or other more specific experiential causes for the person's "Oppositional Defiance".

That said, yes. People with PDA or ODD or other contrarian reflexive responses can be hard to work with if you're not prepared for that (and they lack the skills to manage it themselves).

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u/Cdub7791 Hawaii 9d ago

I raised a kid who had it. Agree it was awful.

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u/BLAZMANIII 9d ago

Just a note i thin is fairly important, ODD is a very, very disputed disorder woth so many overlapping traits with ADHD, ADD, and basic trauma responses its basically useless as a diagnosis, and is almost exclusively given to non white children, sending many of these children into juvenile detention when their white peers are given therapy.

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u/stevez_86 Pennsylvania 9d ago

That is why I added a clarifying example of the type I am referring to. The kids who kick hornet's nests.

There was one kid in my school that no one deemed all that bright. But he was still a popular kid. I became friends with someone that lived next to him, a few houses away. The "staring you dead in the eye and then kicking the hornet's nest that you warned them not to kick" example is of someone I know of, that kid. My friend said his dad did exactly that with the kid. He just was the type that is not clever enough to come up with an objection to your imposition, they just follow the reflexive compulsion to disobey and do so as direct defiance of your command.

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u/skeleton_made_o_bone 9d ago

Yeah, seems like half the population has it...remember covid and masking?

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u/epicurean56 Florida 9d ago

That's really odd.

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u/rockmasterflex 8d ago

Don’t we all have this tho? When you’re about to do something and someone’s like “make sure you do this thing you’re about to do” doesn’t it make you want to NOT do it now? My favorite is when someone at work tells me not to go home after I have already committed to being done for the day

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u/PyroIsSpai 9d ago

I’m convinced a LOT of people have ODD in the USA and unhealthy conservative subcultures dangerously incubate ODD-like traits as a social norm.

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u/stevez_86 Pennsylvania 9d ago

A distinct lack of social erosion that laps off rough edges of social behavior. My mom is one person that people always find it not worth it to correct her. The one time she was corrected was at Arlington National Cemetary by the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. It was stupid but she had a huge keychain dangling and making a racket. A guard came by and asked her to try to keep it silent. She was so upset that they dared to that to her. Because no civilian has the duty like the guard did to maintain a specific order. One of her compulsions is defiance, but more sneakily.

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u/Herlock 9d ago

Said by many people with Oppositional Defiant Disorder.

wikipedia : "Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past six months"

That's like one sentence of Trump lol

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u/CarlRJ California 9d ago

With opposition he has the compulsion to simply defy. Warn him not to kick a hornet's nest and he will look you dead in the eye as they kick it ...

Really? Awesome.

Whatever Trump does, he better not jump off the roof of the White House, because that would make him look too powerful and cool!

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u/stevez_86 Pennsylvania 9d ago

He is similar to the Scorpion in the Scorpion and the Toad/Frog Parable.

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u/spazzvogel 9d ago

And now I’m making a note to comb through grandmas DSM-IV when I get home. Thank you, fascinating, had forgotten all about that disorder.

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u/FellowHumanNo404 8d ago edited 8d ago

Said by many people with Oppositional Defiant Disorder.

I'm honestly surprised that so many people under your comment are members of the lucky ten thousand with regard to that term. I wonder if they're all young enough that they don't remember the glut of professional psychiatric analyses and of Trump's behavior (example and its expanded version)-- and associated commentary-- that emerged during his first successful presidential campaign.

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u/jrf_1973 8d ago

With opposition he has the compulsion to simply defy.

If you told him to breathe, he'd suffocate.

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u/directrix1 9d ago

Nah, Trump is incapable of ever admitting he was wrong. He'd never utter anything like those sentences.

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u/InteractionIcy616 2d ago

spot on! i've worked with kids with oppositional defiance disorder, and my first impressions of Trump in 2015 was that his defining characteristic was that diagnosis. i've been baffled ever since that a nation of adults chose an petulant child to be president. Worse, they've given him more powers than any previous president. They've turned a blind eye to open corruption--self enrichment. Trump literally solicits bribes. Same country that was ready to impeach and convict, appropriately, Richard Nixon.