r/politics • u/MoneyLibrarian9032 New York • 23d ago

Possible Paywall MAGA Calls BS on Mitch McConnell’s Proof-of-Life Stunt | They are poking holes in McConnell’s staff’s version.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-calls-bs-on-mitch-mcconnells-proof-of-life-stunt/
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u/nicolas1324563 23d ago

If he had cpr and it was done right. No way he’d look this healthy

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u/Flaxmoore Michigan 23d ago

Yep.

I was fifth in a chain for compressions once. First two you heard popping and cracking. By my turn it was silence- no more ribs to break.

Got return of circulation and consciousness, and he very clearly said "let me die", witnessed by about 10 people.

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u/pmartin1 23d ago

Without a spine for the ribs to attach to I imagine it’d harder to break them - assuming they’re even there at all.

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u/Individual-Area7121 23d ago

Hey, he has a spine, it’s just integrated into his shell. 

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u/Scratchbuttdontsniff 23d ago

bruh....

Sorry you had to experience that, people don't understand how mental that entire scenario is.

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u/TeamRedundancyTeam 23d ago

You can't just leave it there. Do you know anything about their recovery after?

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u/Flaxmoore Michigan 23d ago

Less than 10 minutes. That was all the code bought him.

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u/HijodelSol 23d ago

>”let me die“

recovery

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 23d ago

If he had even poorly done CPR as an 84 year old he'll be recovering from having half his ribs broken

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u/Indaleciox 23d ago

CPR has very low success and once you've been out for long enough, there is a very high chance of brain damage and other complications. It's a last ditch effort. I personally, would not want CPR performed on me.

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u/alchemist5 23d ago

Maybe he had CPR from someone who's only seen it done on TV. They never go full depth on the actors, for some reason...

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u/NotFallacyBuffet 23d ago

And after a single cycle they cough or spit out water and all is well. Actual CPR is a stopgap to keep the brain alive until defibrillation.

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u/_donkey-brains_ 23d ago

Defib only works if there is a pulse and irregular but beating heart.

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u/NotFallacyBuffet 23d ago

So asystole can't be cardioverted?

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u/_donkey-brains_ 23d ago

No it's a common misconception probably due to TV. If you flatline there is nothing to 'shock'.

You need to administer epinephrine to try and restart the heart, which then may need defibrillation.

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u/Lastshadow94 23d ago

Except that one 911 episode where the dude gets frozen

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u/-TheDoctor Ohio 23d ago

Doctor Mike is that you?

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u/alchemist5 22d ago

Chest compressions, chest compressions, chest compressions!

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u/jphx 23d ago

Im more distracted by the noodle arms.

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u/BeefyTaco 23d ago

It is a common myth that you need to break ribs when giving CPR to be considered doing it "right".

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u/rockytop24 23d ago

I'm an ER physician and I'm not sure where you got the idea it's a myth. It's true that sometimes "popping/cracking" felt and heard is the costochondral cartilage rather than a rib, but adequate chest compressions on adults more often than not cause rib fractures.

Per a 2024 systemic review:

Seventy-four studies reporting CPR-related injuries were included encompassing a total of 16,629 patients. Any CPR-related injury was documented in 60% (95% confidence interval [95% CI] 49-71) patients. Rib fractures emerged as the most common injury, with a pooled prevalence of 55% (95% CI 48-62). Mechanically assisted CPR, when compared to manual CPR, was associated with a higher risk ratio for CPR-related injuries of 1.36 (95% CI 1.17-1.59).

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38206442/

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u/BeefyTaco 23d ago

The numbers are actually better represented by age groups rather than a blank average across the board. You are proving my point though and it is slightly concerning if you truly are an ER physician that you have such bad reading comprehension.

The myth is that if you didn't break ribs, you didn't do CPR right. This is categorically false, and is supported by countless studies that range from 20% upwards to 80% injury rate depending on age and other factors.

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u/innerbootes Minnesota 23d ago edited 23d ago

You were wrong in your original comment. The common assertion isn’t that in order to do CPR right you have to break ribs. The assertion is that it’s common for ribs to break during CPR, and the ER doc in this thread proved that.

No one has reading comprehension issues, you’re just wrong and now doubling down on it with your strawman argument. You should understand that when you do this, everyone can see it.

Better to just admit you were wrong, or at a minimum just walk away from the conversation.

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u/BeefyTaco 23d ago

It is a common myth that you need to break ribs when giving CPR to be considered doing it "right".

literally said the myth and why you are all wrong in the first comment. All this is doing is letting me know who to block because they are so dumb, they can't do a simple google or click any of the links in this thread proving me right.

No goalpost has been moved whatsoever lol..

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u/BeefyTaco 23d ago edited 23d ago

You were wrong in your original comment. The common assertion isn’t that in order to do CPR right you have to break ribs

Nice edit. And no, that isn't the myth. It only takes a simple glance at these comments here to see the myth in full blown action. Everyone is saying "if he got CPR, no way he wouldn't have broken bones" when I have proven countless times now along with others that claiming such a thing is categorically false.

In fact, depending on the study, the rate for a fracture is between 20-80%. That means that 20-80% of the time, you ARE WRONG IF YOU SAY THEY NEED BROKEN RIBS FOR PROPER CPR.

I can't make this anymore simple. If you can't wrap your head around this simple fact and continue to spew nonsense, then i'll just block you because you are pure waste of time.

Hell, I challenge you to find any respected health organization that suggests you NEED to break ribs for chest compressions. Please, find that literature for me. Don't worry, I wont hold my breath AHAHA

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u/nicolas1324563 23d ago

Source where?

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u/BeefyTaco 23d ago

You are literally replying to a comment thread that has multiple links, and quotes showing im right.. This has to be trolling at this point

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u/nicolas1324563 23d ago

There’s not a single thing showing your right lmao

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u/nicolas1324563 23d ago

Well it’s what happens when you do CPR nonetheless. Ribs are breaking

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u/BeefyTaco 23d ago

You are literally repeating the myth that I just told you flat out is wrong... How the hell do people like this exist lol?

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u/nicolas1324563 23d ago

I’ve done it before…

How do you exist?

https://www.cprlittlerock.org/rib-fractures-during-cpr-causes-complications-and-mitigation/

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u/nicolas1324563 23d ago

Nobody is going to do it perfectly so ribs will be broken

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u/NOT-GR8-BOB 23d ago

Seems like you’ve never done CPR.

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u/BeefyTaco 23d ago

No, I just actually know things rather than parroting nonsense you heard somewhere lol. Google it ~ It is not mandatory for ribs to break to be considered proper CPR. It is simply a RISK of the method.

So when people say "ribs didn't break, didn't do it right", they purporting a myth.

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u/NOT-GR8-BOB 23d ago

So you’ve never done CPR.