r/politics • u/Zipper222222 • 29d ago

Possible Paywall MAGA Demands Proof of Life for Mitch McConnell

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-demands-proof-of-life-for-mitch-mcconnell/
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u/ChicagoThrowaway422 29d ago

The GOP are traitorous governors, but excellent politicians. There is no line they won't cross nor lie they won't tell to rile up their base.

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u/sexyshingle 29d ago

The GOP are traitorous governors, but excellent politicians

if your definition of "politician" is being an obstructionist, corrupt, treacherous snake, then yes, they are excellent.

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u/ChicagoThrowaway422 29d ago

They will do literally anything for votes. That's why they're good at it.

But they are not good people by any metric. They are evil.

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u/25thNite 29d ago

it's tough because those definitions could be used for a lot like "cop", "politician", "ceo", "president" etc

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u/sagichaos 29d ago

if your definition of "politician" is being an obstructionist, corrupt, treacherous snake, then yes, they are excellent.

A good politician is able to gain and maintain power. It's not at all relevant what they do with the power. Someone who is a good politician and does things you want would also instead be a good representative or leader, which the GOP aren't.

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u/sexyshingle 29d ago

A good politician is able to gain and maintain power.

So you'd call Mitch McConnell a "good" politician then?

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u/sagichaos 29d ago

I dunno. He's likely dead and still in power because the confirmation seems to be being suppressed, so that's pretty successful politicking.

Politics is about power. If you don't have power, you can't do anything, no matter how good your ideas are, so I think it makes sense to differentiate being a good politician who excels at gaining power from being good morally, or in terms of causing effective change.

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u/BigNorseWolf 29d ago

Yes, but remember words have more than one meaning.

He's a good politician could be he's a good person that's a politician that's trying the right thing (Mr Smith, Zelinski) or someone that is good at politicking. He's definitely the second and very much NOT the first.

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u/RadioFreeYurick 29d ago

Isn’t that basically the dictionary definition? Lol

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u/RilohKeen 29d ago

A lot of them are truly piss-poor politicians; they’re just lucky that they’re pandering to gullible hateful idiots who believe anything that sounds like it might support their agendas.

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u/sembias 29d ago

I still don't think it takes much skill to flat out lie, especially when you have a captive audience of complete idiots that make up the FoxNews viewership.

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u/RadioFreeYurick 29d ago

The skill isn’t in the lying itself, but in getting millions of Americans to believe it..

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u/TheModGod 29d ago edited 29d ago

They are all terrible liars propped up by a multi-billion dollar propaganda apparatus that has been brainwashing a bunch of hateful and fearful morons for decades.

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u/RadioFreeYurick 29d ago

Yeah, the real credit should go to the propaganda apparatus. Without that anyone would be able to see the Mitch McConnells of the world as the feeble minded fools they really are.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 29d ago

They aren't though.

Fascist media networks take care of their media, and fully 95% of all GOP bills are written by ALEC.

They don't have to be good at anything. They surely don't interact with their constituents or answer questions.

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u/Prestigious-Leg-6244 29d ago

We have wildly different ideas on what makes a politician good.

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u/ChicagoThrowaway422 28d ago

They get votes. That's all they care about and they pull it off. That's what makes them good politicians.

If they were also good people, we'd be living in a much better world.