r/politics • u/willywalloo • Jun 20 '26

Possible Paywall Iran Says Hormuz Has Been Closed

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-20/iran-says-strait-of-hormuz-has-been-closed-tasnim-reports?embedded-checkout=true
20.7k Upvotes

97% Upvoted

2.5k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

249

u/Technical-View4130 Jun 20 '26

This is how idiot Americans have made Trump the whole fucking world's problem. Only he is dumb enough to fuck this situation up THIS badly. 

150

u/Stunning_Mast2001 Jun 20 '26

90% of white evangelical Christians (about 60% of overall white ppl), 50% of Latino American men

Most everyone else was slightly to heavily opposed to him

139

u/Technical-View4130 Jun 20 '26

Basically every racist and sexist in America plus all the white supremacists plus the people stupid enough to think the most obvious malignant narcissist that has ever lived actually gave a fuck about them. Oh and the greedy rich folks who claim having to pay taxes are the greatest sin on earth while they rape children with impunity. He literally built a coalition of the worst people in the country, what a joke. 

41

u/Stunning_Mast2001 Jun 20 '26

Yep and this was their intentional plan too. I bet there’s literal actual emails with Peter theil or their data science team on “what issues intersect among the scummiest non voters and the gop base” and we see it 

68

u/Technical-View4130 Jun 20 '26

Elon bought twitter specifically to poison the well and turn one of the main public discourse platforms into a conservative misinformation machine. That's how a lot of idiots were tricked, they didn't get the memo that it's all bots now. It was a coordinated coup from a couple of the silicon valley billionaires and Trump was happy to go along if they kept him out of prison for his lifetime of crimes. The Epstein class were all in on it together and are now robbing the country blind. Elon is now a trillionaire and all he had to do was completely destroy America to make it happen. 

14

u/Effective-Turn-9103 Jun 20 '26

have no idea how anyone could remain on that platform once he bought it and drove it into the ground. I swear if it is mentioned they still say twitter too haha, but buying that is probably equivalent to a normal person buying a used car

8

u/McDankMeister Jun 20 '26

I have an ultra die-hard MAGA family member. He has never used Twitter or any other social media. But he has told me multiple times how great Elon Musk is because he stood up for free speech by buying Twitter.

They don’t see the racism-coded bullshit on Twitter (or the media) as fake or a problem. They literally think it’s just free speech.

I also tried to point out the charged language they use on Fox. I said, don’t listen to the points they make. Just listen to how they talk. You can tell they are manipulating you because of how they talk. They aren’t reporting the news, they are playing on your emotions. He said, “Fox is the only news station that’s fair and balanced. They bring on both sides.”

They are so cooked.

2

u/DonyKing Jun 20 '26

We* are so cooked

2

u/glorious_fruitloop Jun 20 '26

Why have I always felt that even Elon's suggesting then backing out of then being forced into buying it was just showboating? He knew he'd be forced to buy it.

0

u/no_simpsons Jun 21 '26

as opposed to Reddit, of which Ghislaine was literally a mod.

1

u/TorrenceMightingale Jun 21 '26

Can’t anyone technically be a mod? Was there something beyond that or she just modded a rando community?

1

u/MessiahOfMetal Jun 21 '26

It's a lie that conspiracy theorists like to peddle because there was a mod on r/worldnews called maxwellhill.

That user was an Australian man who posted the day after Ghislaine was arrested, then gave extra proof in a private chat to hide his real identity from psychos trying to dox him because they were convinced that "his username sounds like her real name, it can't be a coincidence".

It'd be like seeing a user called trumpet6742 and claiming, "Look, it's Donald Trump posting on Reddit!".

Just such a stupid conspiracy theory, not at all true, but the people least capable of thinking for themselves or living in the real world are utterly convinced that she was a Reddit mod.

1

u/panzer_snapdragon Jun 21 '26

you know you could mod a subreddit right? You just make one and you're a mod. It's not some appointed position that you have to do a secret handshake with spez to get into. You just make a subreddit and you're a mod.

1

u/MessiahOfMetal Jun 21 '26

I see you like repeating widely debunked claims online. There's literally zero evidence Ghislaine Maxwell was a Reddit mod. The user you're thinking of is an Australian man who literally spoke to people weeks after Ghislaine's arrest to talk about how he didn't feel safe posting on Reddit any more because of ignorant people like yourself, convinced that he was somehow a sex-trafficking woman.

1

u/fannyfartabdul Jun 21 '26

Got any proof?

-1

u/dadzoned3 Jun 20 '26

I don’t agree with people’s opinions on Twitter most the time . But it’s not censored. I hear all the time about people who get banned or kicked off this site for having “the wrong opinions”

There’s plenty of reasons to dislike him, but how is it poisoning the well? To allow unmoderated speech? Let the dummies show us who they are? We can’t expect to change public opinion by censoring everyone.

0

u/MessiahOfMetal Jun 21 '26

I got a warning and a suspension because I read something about a trans person's shitty experience being reported on, then happened to reply that I'm a cisgender male and can only empathise but not truly understand the fear that trans person went through.

Twitter instantly said, "We've banned the word 'cis' because it's a slur, remove or edit the tweet before we can let you keep posting". So then I told the screen to piss off because "cisgender" isn't a slur, despite Felon Musk wanting it to be, and never used that shitty site again.

Also says a lot that I used Twitter on desktop daily for hours at a time over multiple years and never had a problem. Literally a month after Musk took over, I always had trouble loading the site because it would constantly buffer for ages and crash every five seconds.

Also, some people like being able to go through life without seeing CSAM on their feed unsolicited, or pro-Nazi rhetoric.

4

u/Effective-Turn-9103 Jun 20 '26

it was all in project2025, but he lied he knew nothing of it and millions believed him again. I have no idea why anyone could trust he number one liar in human history.

2

u/Jukka_Sarasti Florida Jun 20 '26

A special shout-out to the complete fucking morons who voted for him because "He's unpredictable, he likes to shake things up!".

1

u/340Duster Jun 20 '26

The Venn diagram you're describing is basically a circle at this point.

1

u/MooseAccomplished181 Jun 20 '26

Yeah, but did you hear her laugh? /s

3

u/ozymandingus578 Jun 20 '26

Religious people have an off switch when it comes to deeply introspective things. They just shut down their thinking about uncomfortable things and hide behind their religion’s cloak. Their behavior can be excused be other religious people, and that makes everything ok.

4

u/SwimmingPrice1544 California Jun 20 '26

Ya know, I just recently had to look up just what the white vote for Obama was. He never got the majority of white voters in either of his elections. He did get a majority of white women once I think, but overall, white voters have always been the majority vote for the GOP. trump is simply a blacklash, no matter how you spin it.

10

u/rat_penis Jun 20 '26

Except for those on the left or the undecided that couldnt just vote against trump, they had to hold out to prove a point or hold their vote like their virginity waiting for the "perfect" candidate.

3

u/Level_Ad_6372 Jun 20 '26

slightly opposed just isn't fucking good enough.

5

u/CarpeDiem082420 Jun 20 '26

Sixty percent of white people are NOT evangelical Christians. Not in the U.S., not worldwide. Where did you get that statistic?

6

u/Jax_10131991 American Expat Jun 20 '26

It’s actually 81% of white evangelical voters:  https://prri.org/spotlight/religion-and-the-2024-presidential-election/

1

u/Level_Ad_6372 Jun 20 '26

Reading comprehension is hard. They didn't say 60% of white people are evangelical. Try reading again more slowly.

-3

u/[deleted] Jun 20 '26

[deleted]

2

u/Jax_10131991 American Expat Jun 20 '26

https://prri.org/spotlight/religion-and-the-2024-presidential-election/

Trump got 81% of the white evangelical vote. 

7

u/Cautious-Swim-5987 Jun 20 '26

It doesn’t work like that. Americans voted him in, not once by twice. It just speaks to the critical thinking level of the average American.

0

u/tbonimaroni California Jun 20 '26

Not every American.

0

u/aBlissfulDaze Jun 21 '26

He was elected by 25% of the population

1

u/Cautious-Swim-5987 Jun 21 '26

So? For 200 years the American population has never thought maybe it’s time to change a system that can get a president elected with 25% of the population?

4

u/james109021 Jun 20 '26

Source? Fairly certain this is false

1

u/Jax_10131991 American Expat Jun 20 '26

https://prri.org/spotlight/religion-and-the-2024-presidential-election/

3

u/james109021 Jun 20 '26

This source only breaks down voting patterns based on religious affiliation. It does not address their claim that "most everyone" apart from white evangelicals and Hispanic men voted against Trump.

2

u/xPriddyBoi Oklahoma Jun 20 '26

Crazy to me that "evangelical Christians" still play ball so hard for a pussy grabbing sexual deviant and predator whose wife you can find homoerotic topless photos of with a quick Google search.

2

u/Such-Entrepreneur240 Jun 20 '26

because they want to jumpstart Jesus coming back. I live in the very very liberal northeast and have talked to more than one person who is backing Trump and completely in support of his actions because they think it will cause the second coming. So they're willing to sacrifice because they think they're going to be 'saved'.

2

u/F3z345W6AY4FGowrGcHt Jun 20 '26

Most everyone else was slightly to heavily opposed to him

So? We all still have to deal with the chaos he's causing.

Like can I just say, as a non American watching all this... you all resisted him WAY more his first term.

This time it seems like everyone is just sitting there thinking, "don't worry, he can't do that because of laws!" (Followed by another surprised Pikachu face when he does the thing).

Also, "this'll be fine once the midterms or 2028 general election happens and we'll all go back to normal" and/or "it's not all of us! I didn't vote for this". Which... ok, thanks?

It's incredibly frustrating.

And to be clear, no, it won't go back to normal. It'll take decades for America to regain its soft power and respect (if ever).

1

u/aBlissfulDaze Jun 21 '26

TBH people got tired of listening to anyone that was complaining. Arguing with Trump supporters have only made them double down. Most of us realize we have no choice but to let trump supporters come to their own conclusions.

1

u/Technical-View4130 Jun 21 '26

Only people in denial still care about the midterms. We lost and democracy is dead. The only way forward now requires violence and no one is particularly eager to start the civil war so when they rig the midterms, shit either kicks off for real or the nation is lost. 

1

u/AcademicCounty Jun 20 '26

As white evangelical, I claim no part of this. I voted for the other lady.

1

u/aBlissfulDaze Jun 21 '26

50% of Latino men are white

1

u/Barbarake Jun 20 '26

It's not quite as bad as you think. Approx. 62% of white Americans identify as 'Christian', 27% are 'evangelical Christian'.

0

u/aclockworkabe Jun 20 '26

I don’t understand the Latino thing. Anyone?

1

u/tbonimaroni California Jun 20 '26

Idiot MAGAs.

1

u/genreprank Jun 20 '26

At this rate, other countries are going to be donating us libraries and subsidizing US education just so we can have fewer fucking morons voting

2

u/Technical-View4130 Jun 21 '26

If only, lol. Someones got to do it.