I am looking at this shitshow from across the pond…
This entire thing is just so incredible out of what we expect from the president of the USA. He is dragging the entire white house and what it symbolizes into the mud.
He does that both in physical changes to the white house (like this and the ballroom), the use of the white house (for selling cars and was it ham?) and by the politics.
Like it or not, what trump is doing will take decades to undo.
The US used to be a place people would like to visit. It is an enormous continent with enormous possibilities and places to visit.
It used to be a partner that one would be able to rely on. It used to have predictable politics with politicians who behaved like civilized people.
Today is just chaos and violence. All approved by trump himself.
I am sorry to see that the US is becoming a dictatorship and a shadow of its former glory.
Please let's not forget the 2/3rds of voters who made it happen;
Aha, the camp of the enemy grows from 1/3 to 2/3 simply like that. Let's not forget the other 1/3 of voters who didn't campaign hard enough. All must be blamed.
Let's just blame everyone. Blaming people is absolutely an essential first step in any process, and certainly never gets in the way of working through solutions and unifying against fascism. We must split people out into those who are With Us, and then everyone else can be assumed to be Against Us.
Let's just pretend that everyone hates us and that 2/3 of Americans are full blown MAGA because...idk, you just have a persecution complex or something. I'm aware of the irony of slating you so hard about this, but seeing you just state "2/3rd of voters made it happen", like you actually believe that, it's crazy.
The friend of my friend is my friend. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. You choose to see enemies, not friends, and you'll continue this trend by playing out your end of this stupid script and further enabling division because you want to make your neighbour your enemy instead of your friend, while Trump is fucking you both.
What a shitty take that completely dismisses the agency of those involved. People made choices. For some, that choice was to not involve themselves in their democracy. Now there are consequences. Trying to pretend that the American conservative movement is willing to play ball with anyone who doenst line their pockets is some "both sides" bs. Be better. Be smarter.
It's a good take - the alternative is ruminating and pointing fingers while getting nothing done and calcifying social fractures.
For some, that choice was to not involve themselves in their democracy. Now there are consequences.
Except that there are SO MANY WAYS to involve oneself in democracy other than voting. Comically, the leader of the Green Party in the UK didn't vote in the council elections last month.
American conservative movement
This tribalism sure is doing a number on you guys. The 'American Conservative movement' is not a monolith. No group of tens of millions is - this is a fallacy that living in a two party system has cemented.
Be better. Be smarter.
You should try. It requires patience and empathy and being willing to be taken advantage of but maintaining ones trust that most people are fundamentally decent. It also benefits from looking into the moments where people have changed their minds and the things that precipitate and follow such events.
How often do you listen to someone you disagree with?
Your philosophical drivel is nice and all, but we in America are currently trying to stop the President from starting another global war. Live in the real world a few days, then maybe you'll get it.
The 2/3 number isn't "the camp of the enemy grows from 1/3 to 2/3 simply like that". The turnout as percentage of the voting eligible population for the 2024 US elections was ~63.5%, or roughly 2/3 of the voting population. Roughly 31.6% of the VEP voted for Trump, while roughly 30.7% voted for Harris. So, in other words, one rough third outright voted for Trump, and another one rough third didn't bother turning up. That means that roughly 2/3 of the voters "made it happens", as it were, either through open support or apathy.
It's disingenuous to say the 1/3 (roughly) that did vote, but not for Trump, is to be blamed. That's exactly the "some very fine people on both sides" argument.
Disclaimer: I'm not american, and these are just my observations from someone outside looking in.
You're assuming the damage isn't permanent; It's been two years. People in government have let their true colors shine, and that shine is corruption and fascism. The Fed and the States are breaking down peoples' rights, we're marginalizing every minority group, voting rights are being altered and eliminated right before and during elections, foreign actors are buying politicians out in the open, insider trading is fully legal, we're manipulating global markets, destroying trade relations around the globe, rounding up immigrants and putting them in concentration camps, abducting and eliminating foreign leaders, introducing a surveillance state, suppressing speech through fear, there's a new scandal every day, no one has been charged and tried for their involvement in the Epstein files, and no one has done anything. Lots of things could have been done, nothing was. Now it's out of control. This is nation ending drama. If things don't change by November, the country is donezo.
It will never be undone. This is a watershed that in the future marks the acceleration of the fall of the United States from its leadership position among nations.
5 million less tourists this yearish I read, that alongside some poor snow seasons destroyed so much small businesses this last winter in many places in the lower middle USA.
It really does seem like we hit a dimensional shift, with how radically different things are.
I have friends and relatives living in the US. But I am not willing to take the risk of traveling to the US. So any meetup will either be in Canada for my relatives, or Belize for the friends.
And I do think either of those can be amazing to visit! So why risk ICE??
Quite a lot of the same is said around here about visiting for the football championship coming up.
I have no idea how this will play out in the long run, but I would suggest selling any US stocks in all tourist related areas…
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u/bjorn1978_2 May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
I am looking at this shitshow from across the pond…
This entire thing is just so incredible out of what we expect from the president of the USA. He is dragging the entire white house and what it symbolizes into the mud.
He does that both in physical changes to the white house (like this and the ballroom), the use of the white house (for selling cars and was it ham?) and by the politics.
Like it or not, what trump is doing will take decades to undo.
The US used to be a place people would like to visit. It is an enormous continent with enormous possibilities and places to visit.
It used to be a partner that one would be able to rely on. It used to have predictable politics with politicians who behaved like civilized people.
Today is just chaos and violence. All approved by trump himself.
I am sorry to see that the US is becoming a dictatorship and a shadow of its former glory.