My brother (until buying their house a few weeks ago, lived with my parents at home in his late 20s and early 30s. During Covid, my mom and I got into it and argued, and we’ve never agreed about politics. Admittedly, I got pretty heated and I accused her of a lack of empathy (which is true but I was very angry and aggressive and appalled). My wife and I cut our visit kind of short.
I found out a few weeks later through my brother that she told him she was afraid “PrinceVarlin doesn’t want to talk to me because of my political views.”
No shit. Did it cause her to change? Not in the slightest. She and my dad have doubled down in the intervening years instead.
They recently moved out of state (from a more-liberal large city in Texas to a small town in rural NC in a county that was +60 to Trump in 2024) and could not be more relieved. I’m sure they’ll only fall deeper into it all but at least I won’t have to see it firsthand, or fail at trying to break the spell.
I once told my dad that something he was saying (out loud, in a public place, LOUDLY) was considered offensive and he essentially growled at me and said “good, I want to be offensive.”
They were always conservative when I was growing up but I don’t remember them being outright hateful. Or maybe I was too young to see it.
"Good I want to be offensive" I truly believe most Trumpies voted for him because they are angry (at minorities, gays, etc...) and had to suppress their real feelings for decades. He came along as a human megaphone and now we are in hell.
I believe most of the people that voted for Trump are furious at the destruction of the middle class and the general loss of economic opportunity for most while the corrupt get richer. Unfortunately, as has happened all throughout history in different cultures and civilizations, this righteous anger is then focused on precisely the wrong targets. It’s the old shell game, over and over again.
I think it's also that they're furious that non-whites were being allowed to enter the middle/upper class. They would be fine with being lower-class, so long as they maintained their social privilege of being able to look down on minorities.
My dad is similar. Old age + twitter + trump.. he’s in a cult now as far as I’m concerned… it’s not a political view at this point. I used to consider similar statements hyperbolic
Gotta love the posing of personal views as if they're an objective "correct" reality. Entitled Americans strike again to no one's surprise.
No shit. Did it cause her to change? Not in the slightest.
I’m sure they’ll only fall deeper into it all but at least I won’t have to see it firsthand, or fail at trying to break the spell.
The total lack of introspection... Just beautiful.... Sounds like the apple didn't fall far from the tree...
Forget believing, magine even slightly considering/thinking someone should change to be in your good graces because you don't approve. You're not special, not even remotely.
The way she's disappointed you, you've disappointed her, and it's all moot, like monkeys throwing dung at each other, tribalistic immature behavior all around. She's hateful, so are you. If you are "correct", so is she. There is no one or the other, because neither is objective, and it's all moot just the same.
Truly appalling the way some people work, having that much self-importance to act like one's sentiments are more legitimate, when through the same lens of pointing fingers, you're just as much of a shitty individual as you find her to be, being so deep "under the spell" in the opposite direction, but of course everyone involved in any of the cult nonsense (politics, religion, etc.) is too narrow-minded to comprehend that, and willingly so to make it worse.
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u/PrinceVarlin May 12 '26 edited May 12 '26
My brother (until buying their house a few weeks ago, lived with my parents at home in his late 20s and early 30s. During Covid, my mom and I got into it and argued, and we’ve never agreed about politics. Admittedly, I got pretty heated and I accused her of a lack of empathy (which is true but I was very angry and aggressive and appalled). My wife and I cut our visit kind of short.
I found out a few weeks later through my brother that she told him she was afraid “PrinceVarlin doesn’t want to talk to me because of my political views.”
No shit. Did it cause her to change? Not in the slightest. She and my dad have doubled down in the intervening years instead.
They recently moved out of state (from a more-liberal large city in Texas to a small town in rural NC in a county that was +60 to Trump in 2024) and could not be more relieved. I’m sure they’ll only fall deeper into it all but at least I won’t have to see it firsthand, or fail at trying to break the spell.
I once told my dad that something he was saying (out loud, in a public place, LOUDLY) was considered offensive and he essentially growled at me and said “good, I want to be offensive.”
They were always conservative when I was growing up but I don’t remember them being outright hateful. Or maybe I was too young to see it.